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Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Does anyone else think there's an opening to bring in another luchador (Dragon Lee/RUSH or Demonic Flamita maybe) under Chavo to feud with Bandido with the way the match went?

# ¿ Apr 2, 2022 17:13

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 11:31

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Gonzo McFee posted:

What I'd really like is for someone to go through all the ROH footage and clean up the audio and do a bit of HD remastering or what have you and then watch all the big shows from Samoa Joe winning the belt onwards. If Tonty Khan can give me that then a 14 year old me will thank him.

Probably have to redub the commentary too.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2022 20:49

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

quote:

If what talent have been told is the case, Ring of Honor will be back in some capacity sooner than later.

Fightful has been told by AEW talent that the weekend of July 23 is targeted for ROH's return to PPV. As we've heard things so far, they've been told that ROH Death Before Dishonor will take place that weekend from Lowell, Massachusetts.

Jonathan Gresham spoke with Fightful recently and said that ROH would be starting back up soon, and Tony Khan has spoken openly to the media about hoping to reignite the ROH PPV calendar. Death Before Dishonor has been a Summer event for the brand since all the way back in 2003, with shows running in June, July, August and September.

Thus far we don't have an update on the possibility of ROH returning to television. Tony Khan has continued to sign talent to AEW contracts with the intent of using them for the Ring of Honor promotion.

An interesting and possibly connected note was that NJPW quietly changed their Charlotte date from July 24 to July 17.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2022 19:09

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Likely matches for the show:

Gresham vs. Moriarty (Or Cage)

FTR vs. ???

Mercedes vs. Deeb

Yuta vs. Daniel Garcia

Samoa Joe vs. Jay Lethal

Honestly, I'd pay $20 for that. Throw in some undercard matches too.

# ¿ Jun 27, 2022 12:31

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

DBD sales seem to be on an okay start.

# ¿ Jul 8, 2022 17:47

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

https://twitter.com/WrestleTix/status/1545570341715677184?s=20&t=PTxhKJMCXabf_XGbctBh9Q

# ¿ Jul 9, 2022 01:54

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeyRukus/status/1546952791565934592

# ¿ Jul 12, 2022 21:26

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Loved Cash making sure to get the shot in. He was great in that whole thing in general.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2022 22:37

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Gaz-L posted:

The great thing about this feud is the little things. Dax saying the tequila isn't the cheap stuff Dem Boys are used to, or the Briscoes not even acknowledging it was a good match/fight because they lost. And as much as it is them making excuses, it's also not wrong to point out that they'd already wrestled that same night while Dax and Cash hadn't had a match for the better part of a week (from a kayfabe perspective) and how that may have given FTR the edge.

(They actually wrestled later that night but it's still a good story)

# ¿ Jul 15, 2022 23:21

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

https://twitter.com/DaxFTR/status/1548068249421484034

# ¿ Jul 15, 2022 23:46

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

https://twitter.com/ringofhonor/status/1548091099172175872

# ¿ Jul 16, 2022 00:45

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

https://twitter.com/jonalba/status/1548321391761448961?s=21&t=CotLGbjmlmd9XWqoFhdisw

# ¿ Jul 16, 2022 16:26

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_8jMBtB4dQ

This was extremely good. Especially the Yuta vs. Garcia sitdown.

# ¿ Jul 20, 2022 02:34

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

https://twitter.com/WrestlePurists/status/1550170710869426178

# ¿ Jul 21, 2022 18:28

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

It looks like Jonathan Gresham could be done with Ring of Honor and AEW only a few months after signing with the two companies.

Fightful Select has learned that former ROH World Champion Jonathan Gresham asked for his release Saturday ahead of the ROH Death Before Dishonor show that saw him lose the championship. We're told that there was a lack of communication between the company and Gresham leading up to the weekend, and Gresham was said to have felt disrespected by this. Among other things, we learned that the lack of time for the world title match was a tipping point as well.

We're told that Gresham finally procured a meeting with Tony Khan before the show, he was said to have communicated the frustration that led to him "cussing out" Khan. Several talent confirmed this to Fightful following the ROH Death Before Dishonor show.

Gresham had interest from Japan, IMPACT and others before re-signing with ROH/AEW. Gresham told Fightful late last year that he was going to stick things out and see where the ROH brand landed, as he felt a sense of loyalty and pride in continuing it.

Fightful has reached out to Khan and Gresham for responses, and we're told from Gresham's side of things that as of this moment, Gresham is "done with wrestling for the foreseeable future after this month." We were also told that Gresham came out without his regular entrance gear because he wanted to be himself and see everything clearly for what would possibly be his last match. We've not heard from Tony Khan or ROH's side of things officially.

It has not been confirmed that Gresham was granted his request for release.

In the past, several former AEW talent have spoken about the lack of communication being a point of frustration for them.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2022 18:45

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Venomous posted:

Tony really needs to stop doing everything by himself, in both companies, or else (a) we will have a lot more Gresham situations (b) Tony will burn himself out.

What's the solution here then?

# ¿ Jul 24, 2022 19:39

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

quote:

Fightful Select has learned many additional details about the lead up to Jonathan Gresham requesting his AEW/ROH release.

We're told that Gresham met with Tony Khan and others at 4 PM EST before Death Before Dishonor, and was admittedly heated, and not happy with the direction of the booking and his character. It was agreed upon that the context of the conversation would remain private, and details originally didn't seem to emerge from anyone in the room, however by the time the conversation was over, much of the locker room and staff could physically hear how it went down. Building security was even said to have overheard the conversation.

Gresham had spoken with QT Marshall multiple times over the past week, albeit briefly, which we've heard went well. It was also noted that Sonjay Dutt was a point of contact. The frustration on Gresham's part seemed to be the direction of creative, which ultimately ends with Tony Khan, and not being able to be given answers as a result. Gresham was supposedly told that those decisions had to be ran through Tony, who he wasn't able to meet with until a few hours before the show.

The general preferred process is that talent speaks to one of the AEW coaches, who are then in contact with Tony Khan. If the conversations are about booking, they have to be relayed to Tony Khan. The coaches pass on dozens of ideas either from themselves or talent to Khan, who is then in charge of making those ideas a reality or deciding they don't fit. Those answers are then to be relayed back to the talent. For those asking about names involved in that, it's usually AEW coaches, as well as Christopher Daniels, QT Marshall, Pat Buck. We're told that Megha Parekh and Sonjay Dutt also help out and Khan is in communication with them at least ten times a day.
There are also plenty of situations in which Tony Khan has made efforts to talk directly to talent, although numerous have said that it's declined since the Daily's Place era due to the changing of the world and travel in general.

It was said that the AEW side of things believed that Gresham came into the meeting with his mind made up, and they'd not seen him heated like that before, chalking it up to Gresham being passionate about his beliefs in ROH, the brand, and himself. They felt as if there was a disconnect between the access to speak with people about their creative, and it becoming perceived "creative control." Gresham was said to have a vision for his creative direction and where things should go with him, and it was different from what Tony Khan and ROH had hoped for him. Specifically, we learned that Gresham wasn't in favor of turning heel, but that ROH believed there was a "bigger picture" for that. We're told that the finish had been at least hinted to Gresham, but no word on if he knew before Saturday.

In the past, several former AEW talent have spoken about the lack of communication within talent relations being a point of frustration for them. Joey Janela confirmed to Fightful that he hadn't reached out to AEW coaches prior to his exit. Marko Stunt had emailed AEW in an official capacity, but we haven't heard about follow up to coaches themselves on his part.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2022 21:41

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Another good point of comparison is All In which did 45k buys.

# ¿ Jul 29, 2022 15:29

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

quote:

Indie wrestler under an AEW/ROH deal
Another former NXT name is under a deal with ROH/AEW Fightful has learned.

25-year old Blake Christian has been working a variety of promotions, including AEW, ROH, IMPACT, NJPW, GCW, and Jim Crockett Promotions since his 2021 WWE release. However, sources this past weekend surrounding the Starrcast show indicated that Christian is under an agreement with All Elite Wrestling, tied to the Ring of Honor promotion.

Blake tagged with Tony Deppen and Alex Zayne at ROH Death Before Dishonor. He's also worked several AEW dates, dating back to the Dark tapings in March. However, he worked three matches at the July set of Dark tapings, leading many to believe he'd been signed by the company.

We haven't been told if the deal is full-time or tiered.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2022 19:59

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

https://twitter.com/tatetwinbrent/status/1555998857028407304?s=21&t=NQ3ykQ5FUHcyFzU9eCDKCQ

# ¿ Aug 6, 2022 20:56

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

They should run Jericho vs. Jay Briscoe. I'll buy the PPV for that.

# ¿ Oct 19, 2022 19:43

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Apparently Honor Club is back open. I never used it previously but the interface seems pretty nice.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2022 13:53

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

LionYeti posted:

The fact that ROH can't get a TV deal says a lot for the upcoming AEW rights deal. The money hose has basically stopped in the streaming wars and everyone is trying to figure out how to make money now.

No it doesn't.

# ¿ Dec 12, 2022 21:58

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

I'm guessing it'll be on the first ROH taping, whenever that happens.

# ¿ Jan 22, 2023 00:19

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Update on Jay's daughters:

quote:

*JJ, Briscoe's nine-year old daughter was officially released from the hospital yesterday and is back home. She will have to wear her neck and back brace for four more weeks, at which point she will then return to the hospital to have her back brace surgically removed. She will obviously need continued physical therapy as she recovers but she was able to return home last night.

*Gracie, Briscoe's 12 year old daughter, will be moved to the rehab floor of the hospital so that she can focus more on physical therapy towards regaining use of her legs below the knee. She has feeling in her legs but is still unable to move them below the knees. She noted to her sister that her leg, which has felt as if its tingling nonstop, "felt normal" last night.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2023 13:31

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Oasx posted:

I'm genuinely curious, what does ROH do in 2023 that AEW doesn't do?

Not have to worry about quarter hours or ratings.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2023 18:47

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Oasx posted:

I was hoping he wouldn't book ROH, TK really doesn't need to be stretched further than he is.

Tony of Honor will beat Tony Elite in the Best Booker awards next year.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2023 20:52

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Gaz-L posted:

Yeah, just let Daniels or BJ Whitmer or someone book the show.

Why do people constantly think that old people in wrestling are capable bookers? Did Daniels book some secret promotion I'm unaware of?

Pylons fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Feb 26, 2023

# ¿ Feb 26, 2023 21:34

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Gaz-L posted:

Did Tony Khan book some secret promotion before AEW?

Yes, he'd been fantasy booking Dynamite and Rampage since 1995.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2023 21:41

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

I want Tony unconstrained from the tyranny of quarter hour numbers and commercials. Book the wildest poo poo possible for my $10.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2023 23:59

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Gaz-L posted:

They do probably need to address the tag title situation soon

I don't want them to rush it for the sake of things.

# ¿ Feb 27, 2023 18:15

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

https://twitter.com/ringofhonor/status/1630304370767085569

# ¿ Feb 27, 2023 21:33

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

https://twitter.com/ringofhonor/status/1630326913599242242

# ¿ Feb 27, 2023 23:03

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Great match to kick things off.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2023 01:12

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

This is an excellent match.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2023 01:32

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

That match was worth my $10 alone.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2023 01:39

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

THAT loving FINISH

# ¿ Mar 3, 2023 02:04

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Loved that a lot. Great first episode, great main event.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2023 03:03

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

Weird, there's an app on my android TV.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2023 12:58

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 11:31

Pylons: Mar 16, 2009

# ¿ Mar 7, 2023 23:20

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