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If you look at the Arsenal squad back to front, it’s pretty amazing that they were only two points off of Chelsea in April and will finish 5th. Arteta deserves some credit for that. On the other hand, they’ve been rubbish going forward since Arteta took over, and I’m not sure it’s just a personnel issue. I don’t think he knows how to set up a team to create goals, which is kind of important if you have any ambition at all.
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May 21, 2022 18:05
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I’ve been banging on about this for a while now, but I’m pretty confident that Arteta’s system is entirely reliant on having a big physical striker who can convert a large volume of low quality chances into a decent amount of goals. You can debate whether that’s a reasonable system to have(it isn’t). More importantly, it hasn’t even been proven to work when there’s a big lad up front. Arsenal are in deep enough with Arteta that they might as well get a big striker and find out, but if that doesn’t work he’s got to go.
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May 21, 2022 19:57
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Shitshow posted:If you look at the Arsenal squad back to front, it’s pretty amazing that they were only two points off of Chelsea in April and will finish 5th. Arteta deserves some credit for that. If Chelsea and United hadn't been massively below par (Chelsea for the latter part of the season, United for fuckin all of it), Arsenal would be qualifying for the conference league at best. Lacazette and Aubamayang declined massively under Arteta and despite the comment that he can "set them up defensively", that defence is easily bullied, rash in the challenge and poor positionally. Much is made of the fact he learned from Pep but I can't see tactically what Arteta is going for or what he's coaching them to do. This is going by the handful of Arsenal matches I've seen admittedly but when I have watched they've always been a whisker away from a stupid red card or a comedy goal conceded while spamming crosses at tiny youngsters or Odegaard loving corners up.
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May 21, 2022 20:27
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blue footed boobie posted:I’ve been banging on about this for a while now, but I’m pretty confident that Arteta’s system is entirely reliant on having a big physical striker who can convert a large volume of low quality chances into a decent amount of goals. You can debate whether that’s a reasonable system to have(it isn’t). More importantly, it hasn’t even been proven to work when there’s a big lad up front. Arsenal are in deep enough with Arteta that they might as well get a big striker and find out, but if that doesn’t work he’s got to go. Ade Akinfenwa is out of contract, tbf
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May 21, 2022 20:31
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blue footed boobie posted:I’ve been banging on about this for a while now, but I’m pretty confident that Arteta’s system is entirely reliant on having a big physical striker who can convert a large volume of low quality chances into a decent amount of goals. You can debate whether that’s a reasonable system to have(it isn’t). More importantly, it hasn’t even been proven to work when there’s a big lad up front. Arsenal are in deep enough with Arteta that they might as well get a big striker and find out, but if that doesn’t work he’s got to go. Is that not Madrid's style this year? I agree it's not necessarily what you want to bed in as a five year plan, but I don't think it's the worst idea. If that is what they're going for, it may also help them to be not aping City and Liverpool, partly because they won't be competing for the same players and partly because teams won't be practising countermeasures to that style.
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May 21, 2022 20:48
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Madrid have one of the two best players in the world atm and are playing to that so I’m not really sure that it’s the same thing. Regardless I’d say that a good manager should be able to adapt his system to not having one very specific kind of player. But hey, if Arsenal get that player and Arteta’s whole plan comes together then that would be very cool.
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May 21, 2022 21:23
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I’m just surprised you know what kind of system Arteta is going for because, after watching him manage for two and half years now, I sure as heck don’t.
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May 22, 2022 00:54
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Backdoor Delivery posted:Weren't Arsenal top of the league in January? Where the gently caress would you get that idea from? They were 18 points off the top on January 1st
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May 22, 2022 02:10
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Shitshow posted:I’m just surprised you know what kind of system Arteta is going for because, after watching him manage for two and half years now, I sure as heck don’t. Tbf I only know it because there have been a couple times where he’s been challenged about the team’s scoring record and he’s responded by touting the number of crosses they had and arguing that those should convert into goals eventually.
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Butterfly Valley posted:Where the gently caress would you get that idea from? They were 18 points off the top on January 1st They're talking about 2015-16, when spurs finished third in a two horse race, and yeah looks like arsenal were top of the table at some point in january but back down to 4th in february
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May 22, 2022 02:48
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NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:If Chelsea and United hadn't been massively below par (Chelsea for the latter part of the season, United for fuckin all of it), Arsenal would be qualifying for the conference league at best. Lacazette and Aubamayang declined massively under Arteta and despite the comment that he can "set them up defensively", that defence is easily bullied, rash in the challenge and poor positionally. Much is made of the fact he learned from Pep but I can't see tactically what Arteta is going for or what he's coaching them to do. when has 69 points ever finished 7th op
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UnderFreddy posted:when has 69 points ever finished 7th op Nice You don't have 69 points though and have taken points off both the teams I mentioned making GBS threads the bed this year
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UnderFreddy posted:when has 69 points ever finished 7th op actually 69 points and your goal differential wouldve seen you finish 7th in 2016-17, hth op
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NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:Nice i think its fairly common for a team to get one win and one loss against similar quality teams.
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What’s the magic set of results to get a 39th game?
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Total Meatlove posted:What’s the magic set of results to get a 39th game? https://mobile.twitter.com/brfootball/status/1526669839267405824
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lol lets do it
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That can’t possibly be how goal differential works. Or is that the joke??
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The Kingfish posted:That can’t possibly be how goal differential works. Or is that the joke?? Points, goal difference, goals for, head to head. I guess they could use number of corners as a fifth metric..
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ozmunkeh posted:Points, goal difference, goals for, head to head. I don't think head to head ever comes into play in the Premier League, does it? The Kingfish posted:That can’t possibly be how goal differential works. Or is that the joke?? It's exactly how it works.
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Mickolution posted:I don't think head to head ever comes into play in the Premier League, does it? I think they do head to head if the two teams have identical goals scored and goals against, which is rare enough that they never actually have to use head to head.
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Mickolution posted:I don't think head to head ever comes into play in the Premier League, does it? Surely if you score 5 and get 5 scored on you then your goal differential remains the same? I’m foreign so you aren’t allowed to tease me.
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The Kingfish posted:Surely if you score 5 and get 5 scored on you then your goal differential remains the same? I’m foreign so you aren’t allowed to tease me. The goal difference is the same, but the goals scored isn't. If points and goal difference are level, it comes down to goals scored. edit: some leagues (Spain for one) do head to head first, which sucks because the scenario in the post above can't happen.
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Well. If people want a ray of sunshine after this round, MAN United finished this season with a negative goal difference. Also lost 6 games in a row but who is counting.
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im honestly just disappointed that they made it to the europa league instead of conference
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TheRat posted:Wasn't it neutral? it was before losing 1-0 to Crystal Palace.
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Jexner posted:it was before losing 1-0 to Crystal Palace. The table is showing it at 0 for me right now
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pik_d posted:The table is showing it at 0 for me right now Same
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Our GD ended at zero, funnier is Burnley got relegated while conceding fewer lol
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NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:Our GD ended at zero, funnier is Burnley got relegated while conceding fewer lol actually its funnier how poo poo pooshited are op
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Mr Snips posted:I think both are funny tbh They are Seasons finished someone make an offseason thread ta
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