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I've been thinking a lot about the backlash to recent controversial comedy specials like Dave Chapelle's recent Netflix series. There has been a lot of discourse about "punching up" vs "punching down" in comedy. What this essentially means is that there is a big difference in joking about those who hold power in society and those who do not. When people joke about corrupt politicians or police brutality, for example, they are "punching up" - the target of such jokes is someone more powerful than than us. Unfortunately, on the other hand, when people make sexist, racist, transphobic or homophobic jokes they are "punching down". Joking about people who are targets merely for their identity, especially if such a group is already marginalized, is not only deeply unfunny but also shows a lack of understanding about inherent power structures. The argument against this is that context always matters - if a joke is genuinely funny and is not coming from a place of malice or prejudice then who are we to police what comedians can and can't say. Do you think "punching down" is ever acceptable in comedy?
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Shut the gently caress up OP
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Apr 4, 2022 23:51
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Depends, what does the dog inside you say, OP?
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Apr 4, 2022 23:54
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Dane Cook is the only good comedian in history, and he punches whatever direction he wants.
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Apr 4, 2022 23:55
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neato burrito posted:Dane Cook is the only good comedian in history, and he punches whatever direction he wants. Cock Dook
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Apr 4, 2022 23:56
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Im punching down on the OP (because he is not as smart or cool as me) hey OP sucka me balls
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Apr 4, 2022 23:56
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Shut the gently caress up OP
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Apr 4, 2022 23:56
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Shut the gently caress up OP
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Apr 4, 2022 23:57
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Wizard Master posted:I’ve been laughing at all the soy bugmen in this thread who think not having hair is a disability 😂
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Apr 4, 2022 23:57
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all of human killer's 'comedy' is punchdown comedy additional examples of punching down:  
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Apr 4, 2022 23:57
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You shouldnt punch anyone OP ):
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Wizard Master posted:I've been thinking a lot about the backlash to recent controversial comedy specials like Dave Chapelle's recent Netflix series. There has been a lot of discourse about "punching up" vs "punching down" in comedy. What this essentially means is that there is a big difference in joking about those who hold power in society and those who do not. When people joke about corrupt politicians or police brutality, for example, they are "punching up" - the target of such jokes is someone more powerful than than us. Unfortunately, on the other hand, when people make sexist, racist, transphobic or homophobic jokes they are "punching down". Joking about people who are targets merely for their identity, especially if such a group is already marginalized, is not only deeply unfunny but also shows a lack of understanding about inherent power structures. The argument against this is that context always matters - if a joke is genuinely funny and is not coming from a place of malice or prejudice then who are we to police what comedians can and can't say. Sounds like you're trying to police people's honest criticism, OP.
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Apr 4, 2022 23:58
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:Depends, what does the dog inside you say, OP? literally everything is punchdown
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Apr 4, 2022 23:58
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It's all relative to each person's relative socioeconomic standing, OP, and therefore, no one can joke at all, I say.
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Apr 5, 2022 00:00
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Pontificating rear end posted:Im punching down on the OP (because he is not as smart or cool as me) watch em throw a temper tantrum 
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Apr 5, 2022 00:01
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Punching down is one of two things: 1) easy to identify as someone who is not a sociopath/psychopath 2) subjective to whatever activism you want to express, but punching up is easier to judge Punching down is usually just lazy and not very funny, but people love to grab "punching down" when they are deeply unfunny with no sense of humor themselves Hope this helps OP
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Apr 5, 2022 00:01
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Is "Brick" ever OK in comedy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt5EHAqhR1c
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Apr 5, 2022 00:01
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You should punch down. Into your own balls
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Apr 5, 2022 00:02
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Haven't you done this one?
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Apr 5, 2022 00:05
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punchin down on dat pussy
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Apr 5, 2022 00:07
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Haven't you done this one? yeah i think there was another wizard master thread where he mentioned the dave chapelle special no one watched because it's not the chapelle show and i didn't read the rest of that post either so i can't really say but it feels like a yes
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Apr 5, 2022 00:08
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There isn't punching in comedy OP, you may be confusing it with MMA or boxing or I dunno, I don't watch punchmans.
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Apr 5, 2022 00:09
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punching down usually comes across as being mean and acting superior but i guess if the target is truly awful it's ok maybe? like in wonder showzen when they do the horse apples stuff
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Apr 5, 2022 00:12
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AcidCat posted:There isn't punching in comedy OP, you may be confusing it with MMA or boxing or I dunno, I don't watch punchmans. There is slapping in comedy though
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Apr 5, 2022 00:13
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kntfkr posted:yeah i think there was another wizard master thread where he mentioned the dave chapelle special no one watched because it's not the chapelle show and i didn't read the rest of that post either so i can't really say but it feels like a yes Like the exact same thread with the exact same title and OP. You know I'm starting to think this Wizard Master isn't entirely on the level.
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Apr 5, 2022 00:16
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i read the OP then punched down right into my nuts so i could forget it
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Apr 5, 2022 00:17
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Will need to know which cognitive impairment the OP has to reply accurately
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Apr 5, 2022 00:20
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Lizard Mister
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Stink Billyums posted:Will need to know which cognitive impairment the OP has to reply accurately *gestures vaguely at medical reference books*
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Apr 5, 2022 00:22
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You can't punch down on the valuable poster above you, it would be literally impossible.
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Apr 5, 2022 00:24
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eat my shits op
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Apr 5, 2022 00:26
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Forget eating the rich. Eat the poor. There's a lot more.
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Apr 5, 2022 00:26
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OP is trying to put us in a bind by being the most pathetic and disadvantaged individual possible while also demanding ridicule
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Apr 5, 2022 00:27
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only when it's directed at op, the retard (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 5, 2022 00:29
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Shut the gently caress up OP  god drat LSBB with the first post bodyblow
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Apr 5, 2022 00:39
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Wizard Master thread, so didn’t have time to read thread but assume answer is probably “no” or “I disagree”,
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Apr 5, 2022 00:56
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The Walrus posted:only when it's directed at op, the retard writes a paragraph on "punching up" or "punching down" in comedy
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Apr 5, 2022 00:56
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Only at children. Then it's not only great, but family friendly as well.
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Wizard Master posted:I've been thinking a lot about the backlash to recent controversial comedy specials like Dave Chapelle's recent Netflix series. There has been a lot of discourse about "punching up" vs "punching down" in comedy. What this essentially means is that there is a big difference in joking about those who hold power in society and those who do not. When people joke about corrupt politicians or police brutality, for example, they are "punching up" - the target of such jokes is someone more powerful than than us. Unfortunately, on the other hand, when people make sexist, racist, transphobic or homophobic jokes they are "punching down". Joking about people who are targets merely for their identity, especially if such a group is already marginalized, is not only deeply unfunny but also shows a lack of understanding about inherent power structures. The argument against this is that context always matters - if a joke is genuinely funny and is not coming from a place of malice or prejudice then who are we to police what comedians can and can't say. People reply to your posts and get away with it just fine
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