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SirPablo posted:What new way will the Vikings find to crush their fans' spirits? Every season is like strapping into a rollercoaster knowing somewhere there's a track derailment and yet you're still hopeful that this is the year they remembered to tighten all the bolts. This division is the best.
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hughesta posted:how about those bears???? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgynrxYZHuE
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https://theathletic.com/3240661/2022/04/11/nfl-offseason-trades-signings-analysis/ Chicago: They just gutted the roster. You look at the types of players they brought in. It’s just low-cost, piece things together for a year. Detroit: To be a team that bad and to make the conscious decision to be like, ‘Yeah let’s run it back’ like they’re the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or something, I don’t really get that at all. Green Bay: I don’t think this (offseason) is a positive for them in any way, shape or form. Minnesota: I don’t understand anything that they did there. It’s like a team that’s just going in circles. There’s no long-term vision right now at all. I don’t get it. hell yeah #nfcnorth4lyfe
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Apr 11, 2022 18:00
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And they ask for money for that kind of analysis? Wow.
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surf rock posted:https://theathletic.com/3240661/2022/04/11/nfl-offseason-trades-signings-analysis/ It's a division you can set your watch to
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Apr 11, 2022 19:15
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Well Detroit has to wait for Goffs contract to end so it kinda makes sense to keep trying to build the team through the draft and other pieces. Hopefully they'll have a cheap good young QB in 2023 and can then sign some splashier free agents to round out the team. Now the Bears are just weird and dumb. They have the young QB and seem to want him to fail.
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Apr 11, 2022 19:31
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Artonos posted:
Yes, but i think they are trying to unfuck what pace left them and its too much to do in one year via free agents.
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Apr 11, 2022 19:56
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Grading team success based on the couple months of offseason prior to the draft seems a bit premature, but I guess if there’s nothing else to write about…
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surf rock posted:https://theathletic.com/3240661/2022/04/11/nfl-offseason-trades-signings-analysis/ So this is from 2012 right? Oh....
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Artonos posted:Well Detroit has to wait for Goffs contract to end so it kinda makes sense to keep trying to build the team through the draft and other pieces. Hopefully they'll have a cheap good young QB in 2023 and can then sign some splashier free agents to round out the team. The lions are completely correct in not trying to win now. They were 3-13. There is no amount of trades FA signings that’s gonna get them to a winning record What does that guy want them to do
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Apr 11, 2022 21:47
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CharlestheHammer posted:The lions are completely correct in not trying to win now. They were 3-13. There is no amount of trades FA signings that’s gonna get them to a winning record The time is right for them to make a big splashy trade. Offload Jared Goff for Super Bowl winning QB Matthew Stafford and become instant competitors. It worked for the Rams
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Apr 11, 2022 22:01
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Criticizing the teams for not doing a whole lot three weeks before the draft seems a bit odd. Yea the Bears haven’t done much, but there’s still a lot of time before camp starts. Either way, the Packers are probably the only team that should want to compete this year. Everyone else is probably trying to set things up for 2023.
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Apr 11, 2022 23:12
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2955236-grading-every-nfl-teams-offseason-before-the-2022-draft I read this this morning and it seems way less. Stupid? And more cognizant of where the teams actually are and what they should be doing. It still slags off the Bears, but it at least acknowledges that that's mostly because they were left in an awful position by Pace.
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Apr 11, 2022 23:16
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The athletic piece was a bit more in depth about the bears but realistically it's hard to see what they could've done without mortgaging the future. If Fields had this amazing rookie season and was a no doubt guy you probably would've been ok with them kicking the can down the road. But he's not, so hey this year probalby going to suck (hard) but next year will actualy have picks & cap space. It'll just make it really difficult to evaluate Fields because he'll be surrounded by poo pooquote:On one hand, you would have liked to see the Bears do more to surround Justin Fields with talent for the upcoming season. On the other hand, Bears fans should probably be encouraged that new GM Ryan Poles appears to be making an honest assessment of the state of the roster, salary cap situation, etc.
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Apr 11, 2022 23:25
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I don't care about surrounding him with talent, i just don't want him to die because he's being protected by J'Marcus Webb reincarnations
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surf rock posted:https://theathletic.com/3240661/2022/04/11/nfl-offseason-trades-signings-analysis/ Yeah I'm kind of with you all in that that article is a bit weird. Not to be too much a prisoner of the moment but the Vikings and Packers are kind of handcuffed by salaries. The extension to Cousins on paper makes sense because it gives cap relief. There are a lot of tough calls and the Vikings aren't a terrible team and as others have pointed out...the draft hasn't even loving happened.
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Yeah, we should be talking about how each team is going to screw up the draft.
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hobbesmaster posted:Yeah, we should be talking about how each team is going to screw up the draft. The Packers should draft two wide receivers, a blue chip and a high RAS project. What will happen is they take a reach on a raw edge rusher project at 22, trade down from 28, and then take a tight end.
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SKULL.GIF posted:The Packers should draft two wide receivers, a blue chip and a high RAS project.  SKULL.GIF posted:What will happen is they take a reach on a raw edge rusher project at 22, trade down from 28, and then take a tight end. Yeah. 
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Apr 12, 2022 02:21
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Anyone buying into the lions taking Willis at 2? I don't see it.
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Apr 12, 2022 02:28
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Bears screwed it up years in advance.
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Parallelwoody posted:Anyone buying into the lions taking Willis at 2? I don't see it. There's no reason for the Lions to take an uncertain project when so much of the roster is so weak and you're still paying Goff. It's just predraft babble because the media is running out of things to mutter about.
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Parallelwoody posted:Anyone buying into the lions taking Willis at 2? I don't see it. I don't have the quotes on hand but the indication from the team is that it's very unlikely. I think they just take whichever edge is available at 2, which is probably Thib.
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The Lions offense isn't actually a dearth of talent and is actually setup amazingly well for a rookie QB right now and would be an amazing spot for Willis if he was drafted. That said, the Lions defense needs some serious inject of talent, however, and really needs to spend almost every pick on fixing it this year. Next year still seems the most likely. Or Detroit could be one of those veteran FA/trade QB teams next year too, kinda like the Broncos. The only thing the Lions have explicitly mentioned is wanting a legit WR in the draft, which will likely be their 32nd or 34th. Their first draft pick will almost certainly be best player available. Hizawk fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Apr 12, 2022 |
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Yeah the Lions are clearly second to the Vikings in WR talent right now with GB and Chicago behind them
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Hizawk posted:The Lions offense isn't actually a dearth of talent and is actually setup amazingly well for a rookie QB right now and would be an amazing spot for Willis if he was drafted. Offense is decent now, but apart from the line and ARSB, they don't really have anyone locked up. Are they going to sign Hock? Swift? Do they want to? Everyone else is on a short term deal. I do agree that they should spend a lot of picks on defense though (Edge, Safety, tackle, LB). Maybe a later round receiver or a guard if there is one they really like.
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Apr 12, 2022 19:42
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Also requesting the Lions pick in the op be muscle coach in the race car helmet. 
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Danny LaFever posted:Offense is decent now, but apart from the line and ARSB, they don't really have anyone locked up. Hock, I assume they'll extend. Swift, I dunno, I like him a lot but apparently you're never supposed to give RBs a second contract?
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Danny LaFever posted:Also requesting the Lions pick in the op be muscle coach in the race car helmet. assume it's condensation but it really looks like he's hotboxing that helmet
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ghosthorse posted:assume it's condensation but it really looks like he's hotboxing that helmet Reminds me of that joke article about him uh...hitting the powdery white slopes at Allen Park.
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My general philosophy about Fields is that, with a competent offensive system and playcalling, he will show you if he's capable of being *that guy* even if he doesn't have the best pieces around him But also Mooney and Kmet managed to put up decent numbers despite being in a completely garbage offensive system and playcalling. That guy will show you he can be that guy even if there is minimal talent around him. I think Jenkins and Borom can be solid tackles, Whitehair is a solid guard, the Packers center is alright from what I've seen, they need to find a guard, which is doable. I'm putting so much stock into just how bad the coaching staff was offensively all around the past few years under Nagy. But it was real loving bad.
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R.D. Mangles posted:The Chicago Bears will never have a good offense. The Bengals made the Superbowl. The Cubs won a World Series. Anything is possible. I believe it is possible for a better and just world to be born from the ashes of despair
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Dexo posted:The Bengals made the Superbowl. The Cubs won a World Series. Anything is possible. You think it's possible for the Lions to win??
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Dexo posted:My general philosophy about Fields is that, with a competent offensive system and playcalling, he will show you if he's capable of being *that guy* even if he doesn't have the best pieces around him Exactly my feelings. The new scheme seems much better suited for Fields skillset, and Mooney, DMont, Herbert, and Kmet are decent enough weapons for the Bears to have a middle of the pack offense if they are balanced, get the ball out quickly, and limit mistakes.
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Dexo posted:The Bengals made the Superbowl. The Cubs won a World Series. Anything is possible. The Cubs winning a world series is why the Bears will never have a good offense, all the luck is used up. It's why Green Bay will always choke in the playoffs, the Bucks used all the luck to win that NBA championship. 
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Marc was the good Bears offense.
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Kyle Orton would have won.
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Sataere posted:and limit mistakes. First time?
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