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Guavanaut posted:It's always projection. The Satanic Panic was at least in part about covering for organized religious child abuse with "no actually it's secret satanists that nobody but us knows exists", then when investigations like the Ryan Report showed that, no, it was actually the churches themselves it turned into transparent bullshit like "we allowed gay priests as long as they were abstinent and then children were abused and we had to cover it up". Imo, the satanic panic was mainly due to the emergence of evangelical Christians as a political bloc coinciding roughly with stagflation, the entry of heavy metal into the mainstream, and the rise of pen and paper role-playing games, which to a fundie pretty much looks like a combination of gambling and devil worship. So basically these people who were already convinced that it fell to them to stop society's fabric from unraveling found themselves in a target rich environment. Like, imagine you're a deranged fanatic, forced back into the workforce by stagflation and feeling guilty about leaving your child with strangers. You pick your kid up from daycare and he starts telling you how he spent the day rolling dice and pretending to be a worshipper of Asmodeus, instigated by a long haired weirdo in a Venom t-shirt. It takes zero additional steps to get to "this facility is exposing my child to devilry." The real wacky poo poo happens when a dumbass cop investigating an accusation questions a child who has no idea what's going on but picks up very quickly that their truthful answers aren't what the cop wants to hear. So they try to give the "right" answers, and next thing you know the official police report says that the kid was forced to take part in animal sacrifices after being flushed down the toilet. This actually happened. I think treating the panic as projection by religious conservatives or some kind of orchestrated distraction paints child abuse as specifically a religious or right wing problem rather than the inevitable result of any deeply hierarchical organization putting adults in positions where they have power over children without oversight that actually gives a poo poo.
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OwlFancier posted:It is increasingly hard to see how the US can continue to function when half the country wants the other half dead, basically. It's not even half. The stupid electoral system allows about a third to dictate policy to the rest, enabled by indifference and/or spinelessness in another third.
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PT6A posted:I largely agree with this, but I'd also like to point out that in all these cases -- literally all of them -- and more, including COVID vaccines, and probably whatever other stupid poo poo they push, the conservative viewpoint is asking us to consider the worst possible outcomes of A Given Choice, while never considering the average or worst-case consequences of simply choosing to do nothing and continue with the status quo. "The thing we've been doing must be great, because we've been doing it, therefore if the new thing causes any problems, it's clearly worse." This quirk is bigger than just conservatism, imo. It's the reason opt-out organ donor programs get more people to sign up than opt-in. It's also the thought process the trolley problem is intended to shine a light on. It's very frustrating because you're exactly right with your last paragraph.
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