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That reminds me a bit of Vi Hart's On Gender, which is bit like an affirmative trans positive version of the 'Gender Critical' badness but from before mainstream GC kicked off again, like it's easy to see how that attitude could turn into GC if they were surrounded by people echoing that and lacked the intellectual curiosity that they have, but goes in a different and better direction just by listening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmKix-75dsg That view seems to be part of or linked to 'gender agnostic' now.
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Then you can point out that there is an epidemic of infant genital mutilation to force intersex children into one of two binary boxes, and it's been going on for decades, and that's a perfect example of a real world harm caused by viewing sex and gender as binaries, and is far far worse than anything caused by supporting a child to socially transition. Then you get to find out if they're really against child mutilation or they're just against trans existence.
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You could go as broad as "a featherless biped" and they'd say "aha! What about a one legged woman wearing a native headdress?" because they're not interested in actual discussion.
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They always end up going to something like "so I can just define myself as Chinese then?" rather than any honest criticism of definitions because the end goal is to poison the idea that people know who they are and the best way to find out is to ask them rather than to get the skull calipers out.
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It's always projection. The Satanic Panic was at least in part about covering for organized religious child abuse with "no actually it's secret satanists that nobody but us knows exists", then when investigations like the Ryan Report showed that, no, it was actually the churches themselves it turned into transparent bullshit like "we allowed gay priests as long as they were abstinent and then children were abused and we had to cover it up". Same thing happened a few years back with Poland going all in on 'LGBT Free Zones' to distract from the documentary Tell No One, and is happening now with 'grooming agendas' conveniently happening at the same time as the investigation into the Southern Baptist Convention.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I think treating the panic as projection by religious conservatives or some kind of orchestrated distraction paints child abuse as specifically a religious or right wing problem rather than the inevitable result of any deeply hierarchical organization putting adults in positions where they have power over children without oversight that actually gives a poo poo. It doesn't mean those are the only groups with child safeguarding issues, but I can't imagine a centrist group going straight to gay satan, it'd be a few bad apples/communication breakdown/we were not aware type excuses.
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That's why they're forced to pretend that trans people aren't real. Or if they are then there's like 2 (including ~their trans friend~) and the rest are kids who have been confused by tik tok and sex ed in schools. Or if they aren't then it must be the ROGD from that conspiracy theory study that was silenced and most will regret any affirmation. Or if they don't...
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The "they should have to wait until they finish puberty before they get access to puberty blockers" argument.
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wizzardstaff posted:They also believe that trans women are completely uninterested in each other, which uhhh... lol The other half is attacking Gillick competence and the idea that minors can have input into their own medical care.
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Plus far too many 'experts' who were too deep into gay gene stuff were also colossal weirdos who ended up at fetal sexuality testing or gay tests for employment or other extremely gross bullshit. With gender, if people actively need to seek out gender affirming medical care that care ought to have some medical backing to it. Transmedicalism is a problem, but things being done via medicine need medical review around them, whereas I can't think of a good similarity for sexuality. I guess maybe the terrible "if PrEP is readily available then people will just go around having gay sex" arguments that entirely reverse reality.
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The Covid stuff is just boilerplate rhetoric of reaction, with its roots in the anti-tax and anti-government movements of the 70s. The root motive for many people making those absurd claims is no more complicated than "seatbelts will actually kill more people than they save" - auto manufacturers, but it appealed to a specific reactionary 'common sense' conservative mindset that fears change but views fear as unmanly and so repositions it as "therefore if the new thing causes any problems, it's clearly worse" like you say. Add in a bunch of sexual moralizing and gay panic and you get all the anti-LGBT "why can't the world just be exactly the same as it was when I didn't have to think about it" stuff.
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