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The only reason why I think the Panthers made a mistake is that the current org looks just completely out of their depth at QB evaluation. That's probably a bad sign in general. Falcons at least have a guy who was great at evaluating talent when he was with the Saints.
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The funniest thing is that im pretty sure Corral was the only "first round grade" QB who wasnt mock drafted to the panthers at some point during the scouting process
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The way I see it is 3rd rounders have a success rate of around 50% if he's trash we'll probably know it this year and Rhule will be gone and we go into next year with (hopefully) a gun left tackle and questions at QB like we have now, if hes good. Well cool. I'm happy they took a swing anyway. We know what Darnold is (or rather... isn't) might as well suck it and see.
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Pretty drat happy with the Falcons draft so far. Glad we took Ridder over Willis and really glad we didn't get him in the 1st or 2nd round.
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MJBuddy posted:The only reason why I think the Panthers made a mistake is that the current org looks just completely out of their depth at QB evaluation. Hurney was responsible for bridgewater and he’s gone. Hurney was also going to draft Herbert if he fell. Rhule was responsible for darnold. He thought he could rehab him and make something out of him and clearly that hasnt worked out. They were also in on the stafford and watson trades. And now they’ve drafted Matt corral. Oh and I guess they backed out of baker but I’ll judge that if we ever hear terms. What was the better qb move in the last five years? What move did they not make? I mean maybe trade up for Herbert (which would have been laughable at the time), or get in on the Wilson trade but I’m not sure Carolina is ICONIC enough for him. Obviously fields but it’s hard to judge since horn got injured and field’s career was just dragged into a corner and shot. Maybe mccorkle but gently caress that guy They obviously traded too much for darnold, but the contract numbers are meaningless (as I know you agree) and I actually think picking up darnolds option/spending a second was an attempt to boost his confidence. That’s just a theory tho. I’m just saying I don’t see any better options over the last four years, so it’s difficult to judge their ability to evaluate, especially since there’s been so much turnover. One thing is clear with this draft tho: fitterer is in charge. Gotta think Rhule is on a short leash. FizFashizzle fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Apr 30, 2022 |
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FizFashizzle posted:
I think you're right. I'd say moving on from Bridgewater was a tough problem. He went from top 10 in DVOA to 20th, then back to top 10 in Denver (though hilariously with identical stat lines?). But I get why they moved on. Just you're left with a guy leaving and playing better immediately while the replacement looks no better. Honestly the bizarre answer is Winston, but I get why no one would push that button or run "QB who looked good in New Orleans will certainly look good here" back after Bridgewater. Hell, no clue if Winston will be good at all anyway with the coach change.
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Apr 30, 2022 16:34
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I will toxx that Jameis Winston will be a top 30 QB this year.
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MJBuddy posted:I think you're right. I'd say moving on from Bridgewater was a tough problem. He went from top 10 in DVOA to 20th, then back to top 10 in Denver (though hilariously with identical stat lines?). But I get why they moved on. Just you're left with a guy leaving and playing better immediately while the replacement looks no better. I think his collapse is half him plying a full year and teams keying in on him and half joe Brady. Brady was obviously not what was advertised. And this latest (fifth?) eye surgery for Winston is gonna be the one that does it.
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Silly Burrito posted:I will toxx that Jameis Winston will be a top 30 QB this year. 
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Silly Burrito posted:I will toxx that Jameis Winston will be a top 30 QB this year. How many games will he need to play?
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FizFashizzle posted:I think his collapse is half him plying a full year and teams keying in on him and half joe Brady. Brady was obviously not what was advertised. Winston could just be as good as he was last year, not get cheap shotted into an ACL tear, and the Saints would have won the South, and they're returning almost the entire defense (Williams is so good it's a big loss, though) and hopefully not third stringers on the O Line.
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MJBuddy posted:Winston could just be as good as he was last year, not get cheap shotted into an ACL tear, and the Saints would have won the South, and they're returning almost the entire defense (Williams is so good it's a big loss, though) and hopefully not third stringers on the O Line. Is the sheriff going to transport Kamara to games or can deputies do it? not sure how thats set up under Napoleonic law
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His mistake was committing crimes outside of the city. Will Smith did a drunken hit and run and was shot while pulling a gun in the insuring altercation and his shooter had the fastest murder conviction in the history the city it felt like. Also Smith got hammered before driving while at dinner with a police officer who showed up and likely tampered with evidence.
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Who the gently caress drafts a punter in the fourth round?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Who the gently caress drafts a punter in the fourth round? The Jags drafted Bryan Anger in the 3rd
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Who the gently caress drafts a punter in the fourth round? A team trying to free up cap space.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Who the gently caress drafts a punter in the fourth round? this makes more sense when you see that the Bucs don't have a 5th or 6th rounder, they feel that he probably wouldn't be there in the 7th
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How many games will he need to play? 20. https://twitter.com/RodWalkerNola/status/1520444130190675968?s=20&t=J_HrkjIzu9CcHgriyfPtNw Silly Burrito fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Apr 30, 2022 |
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FizFashizzle posted:I think his collapse is half him plying a full year and teams keying in on him and half joe Brady. Brady was obviously not what was advertised. There was also some scuttlebutt at the time that he didn't get along with other players on the team and they weren't confident in him. If he's lost his team mates and he's a known quantity you're always going to be better off deciding to cut bait.
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Saints UDFAs so far: 1) Abram Smith, running back, Baylor 2) Joel Dublanko, linebacker, Cincinati 3) Lukas Krull, tight end, Pittsburgh 4) Rashid Shaheed, wide receiver/kr, Weber State 5) Nephi Sewell, linebacker, Utah State 6) Damarcus Fields, defensive back, Texas Tech 7) Smoke Monday, safety, Auburn 8) Eric Wilson, Guard, Penn State 9) Daniel Whelan, punter, UC Davis
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Bucs apparently drafted some lab concocted athletic specimen. https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1520483473747853312
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How did 3 punters get drafted? And the hyped one was third?
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PostNouveau posted:How did 3 punters get drafted? And the hyped one was third? Complete guess out of my rear end but perhaps the proliferation of borderline unstoppable QB play is leading to some analytics driven strategy to place an especially large premium on goal line mortar and corner coffin punting. Maybe.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Complete guess out of my rear end but perhaps the proliferation of borderline unstoppable QB play is leading to some analytics driven strategy to place an especially large premium on goal line mortar and corner coffin punting. Maybe. And they're getting paid. It's not a very deep position in the NFL right now. Could be in two years but for now the Saints literally held two punters for a year so that they'd have a backup for their star punter when they let him go.
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Feels like punting should have a larger talent pool to choose from then it does. It’s not like kickers who are essentially impossible to really scout due to the intangible emotional component to it.
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Hey Texas had a FG kicker who was also the punter eligible for the draft. That saves a roster spot! First-round material if you ask me.
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Its kind of weird to me that the two are mutually exclusive so much in the nfl considering in rugby and rugby league the vast majority of your kickers do the punting equivalent too. A friend of mine got offered to try out as a punter for a college when he was in the US and he could kick from 50m out regularly.
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Field goal kicking is one of those sports positions where once you’ve got the yips they might as well put you down like a race horse.
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BlindSite posted:Its kind of weird to me that the two are mutually exclusive so much in the nfl considering in rugby and rugby league the vast majority of your kickers do the punting equivalent too. There's your problem right there. We kick in yards here in the States.
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Im sorry I don't measure things in freedom per French fry.
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does australia still measure weight in stone or is that a freak rear end british pervert thing
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Alaois posted:does australia still measure weight in stone or is that a freak rear end british pervert thing Its a Brit thing. Occasionally some boomer will say something like he must be 12 stone or something but gun to my head I couldn't convert it. All kilos and grams for weight. I can usually estimate pounds just from plates in the gym being stamped with both and being a boxing / mma fan but stone is foreign to me.
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Our new UDFA learns quickly. https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/status/1520590821703229443
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Silly Burrito posted:Our new UDFA learns quickly. 10/10 name. Putting bad jokes and puns on index cards for the season.
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Bucs now have at least one player born in 4 different decades. Logan Hall was born in ‘00 Holy god I’m getting old
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PostNouveau posted:Hey Texas had a FG kicker who was also the punter eligible for the draft. That saves a roster spot! First-round material if you ask me. He could've been the only Texas player drafted.
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Honey Badger coming home. https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1521117742367186949?s=20&t=bAF-P74KLH33N_oEIz4rWw
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Not bad at all. https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1521218594008272896
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