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I'm a fan of The VVitch and The Lighthouse but this poo poo was not my jam. It's the kind of cringe macho nonsense I'd expect from a wannabe throwback exploitation filmmaker; in the same vein as Bone Tomahawk. Eggers seemed like his batshit psychological magicka was what was going to seperate him from the pack and become the thinking person's genre hound now he's distancing himself from his debut feature and embracing vapid geek projects - I was so disappointed in him here. Does "authenticity" really loving matter that much? In a world where colour-blind casting has produced such amazing performances as Dev Patel in The Green Knight, Batman 2022 was vaping instead of crafting cringe abs and one neat trick modern filmmakers have picked up in the last decade or so for women characters is they are a little more than incubators. Who out there is actually interested that the "longboats used in the film have nails made in the nordic tradition"? Probably the same kind of people who think big budget vikings should stay white, as if it matters. The guest spooks by Willem and Bjork were just short sharp reminders this story didn't have the fun pizazz and intelligence that has served Eggers previous two movies so well.
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Spermando posted:Does it detract from the film? Reading the positive reviews it seems like it's the only thing the film actually has going for it.
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Apr 22, 2022 18:59
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Mordja posted:Wait, is this to say that you haven't actually seen the movie? No I've seen it there's just no upside to it other than the geek high production wank. Quick quiz only real fans of Robert Eggers and The Northman will know the answer to: If you create a scene where two naked men fight to the death inside a volcano (see that sentence trend on twitter, great cool exposure!) how do you also avoid making the studios unhappy? Answer: Light the exploding lava cave as if it's darker than inside satan's arsehole. You can saaaay you have the scene but not actually show anything! Neat.
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Apr 22, 2022 21:41
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Apr 22, 2022 21:59
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Space_Butler posted:I had no expectation for such a thing because I don't hinge my expectations on movies on what social media lunatics post. I've numbed myself to that after too many instances of being told something is queer as hell and then it's one scene of two men sharing a quick smirking glance. I can only be betrayed so many times.  
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Apr 22, 2022 22:20
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Blood Boils posted:I mean it's a revenge story, so that kinda comes with the territory. The VVitch was a while ago (also at least had a fun female character arc) and The Lighthouse had two actors in it. Not weird.
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Apr 22, 2022 22:39
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Monglo posted:Yeah, exactly - its what its about. The only slight criticism that could be made, I think, is that it made the brutality and violence "look cool". But otherwise, the movie is as open as it can be about condemning them and everything that is usually described as toxic masculinity. Can it be a revenge story that makes violence look cool and a condemnation of toxic masculinity at the same time? The film literally ends with the lead ascending to heaven.
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Apr 22, 2022 22:46
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I, Butthole posted:Depiction is not endorsement Where is the nuance?
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Apr 22, 2022 23:02
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Monglo posted:For me, the big part of the narrative was the dichotomy of how a person living with the ideals of that time perceived their actions and the world around them, and how the audience views them portrayed on-screen. There were multiple scenes were these versions are juxtaposed, like the fight with the undead warrior at the burial mound being the most extreme example. Amleth sees himself battling the undead creature, where we would say he just robbed a grave. In this scene Amleth clearly looks over and watches himself rob the grave after winning the cool fight, it's not just for audiences. Why that scene was there and then depicted as a dream or fantasy the character is aware of I haven't had too much thought on. Could be a simple plot where Amleth must win a battle in his mind before being rewarded a power-up or a scene that almost got deleted for straying from the mud and abs theme but got "it was all a dream"'d instead so they can have their cake and eat it, too. As for your point about Amleth having beliefs and traditions, yes, he follows them to the death and is rewarded for it. Where was the conflict? The murder of his mother and half-brother are not depicted in a way that would wholly turn audiences against him and his goal - his mother morphs into a strange sexist archetype trying to put her tongue down his throat and dies after stabbing him in the chest and the child stabbed him multiple times and was killed in a sort of accidental way where he was cut by his sword after being thrown off his shoulders. I didn't detect the nuance or intelligence in those deaths or a commentary on revenge, as Amleth lay dying he wasn't thinking of the regret of that but that his seed lives on in two angelic little blonde babies. Skeevy..
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Apr 22, 2022 23:46
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Monglo posted:I dont know what to say, every statement you made is wrong and the exact opposite of what happened in the movie. IMO Doctor Faustine posted:Idk man, but I don’t really see what’s so “skeevy” about a guy’s dying thoughts being about the woman he loves and their children, especially when the whole reason he went back to kill Fjollnir had transformed from a quest to avenge his father to a quest to eliminate a threat to his loved ones. It sounds like you’re looking to find things to be problematic. 
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Apr 23, 2022 01:01
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Apr 23, 2022 17:32
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Memnaelar posted:I feel like there's a drive to find subtext in this movie because Eggers couldn't possibly have written a movie this simple, this *just text*. He does say he wanted a simple story so he could play in this time period without confusing audiences. Wish I knew that going in, I agree with you.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Was thinking a double feature of The Lighthouse & Portrait of a Lady On Fire would be great. Just the total antithesis of each other. Freddy Got Fingered. Both movies about seeking father's approval.
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