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BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

Nidoking posted:

4) When a good player (like Nimrook) is nearing the end of their contract, play that team and dunk on them as hard as you can. Make them look bad so they'll get fired, and then snap them up. There are some excellent free agents out there, but I found very few of the Aurochs to be very strong players in the later games. (Keepa, I'm told, is a monster on offense at very high levels. You'll probably never actually see that, but it's worth keeping in mind.)

This is a good one to keep in mind. As said, there are good free agents, but Nimrook, as I mentioned in my previous post, is bar none the strongest Keeper in the game due to his phenomenal Catch stat. But when I played, I just got a solid roster of free agents that are good at low levels, and proceeded to stomp all over everyone and everything in my way, occasionally resetting levels just because I felt like it. I'm talking ending games at 11-0, while screwing around for most of the second half.

Also yeah, it takes until like... level 90+ (keeping in mind Blitzball player levels go up to 99), but eventually Keepa's Shoot score suddenly skyrockets from next to nothing in the last few levels, all the way up to 99, the highest in the game. Kinda weird. But I suppose at least one of the Original Aurochs other than Wakka has to end up not-terrible at something.

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disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Blitzball is kinda dumb but I like this just uncommented-upon thing where humans in Spira just seem to have profoundly greater lung capacity or maybe even secret gills or something? They're humans, sure, but they're fantasy humans on a fantasy world which is a lot more oceanic than Earth. It's a neat little difference!

Also the floating water orb looks silly, but then again it's a sport that would've started in the water and they have wacky magitech. So why the hell not!

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
:siren:New Episode!:siren:

Let's Play Final Fantasy X Episode 11 - Hanging By A Thread

I loving love Auron, dude just drops that plot point on Gooba&'s lap and doesn't elaborate on any of it. Plus he's the powerhouse character which is my favourite archetype and his theme whips and god dammit he's so goddamn cool

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




Just dropping that on Tidus, then basically lying to Yuna about it is one of the really strange storytelling bits in this game. It all makes sense in the end, but it is part of a trend where it seems like they cared more about MAXIMUM MYSTERY than anything else.

PepperedMoth
Apr 8, 2022

Less salt, more pepper.
Hoorah, Auron's back!

The Sin-is-Jecht reveal is certainly a doozy. Definitely a big WTF moment on the first playthrough.

I love the cut to Auron/Lulu/Wakka's blank, resigned expressions as Tidus HA HA HAs over on the balcony.

It's kind of funny how the Final Fantasy series has produced two of the most iconic video game laughs (with the other one being Kefka's from FFVI).

Maechen is one of my favorite side characters in FFX. There's plenty of questionable voice acting in this game, but I quite like Maechen's voice.

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

PepperedMoth posted:

Maechen is one of my favorite side characters in FFX. There's plenty of questionable voice acting in this game, but I quite like Maechen's voice.

I don't recall if its been covered in this thread, but a lot of the VA issues are a technical limitation. As in, they hardcoded how long each line of dialogue is, to the point that changing it would break the engine. That's why Yuna's 'yes' is so short and clipped, for example.

This was one of the first big budget games to be fully voice acted like this, so it's sort of understandable.

Nidoking
Jan 27, 2009

I fought the lava, and the lava won.
A lot of people give FFX a hard time because the characters can be really goofy when they're living in this goofy story, and the Real Life Comics where the dishwasher broke and the main character just unlocked the "Repair Dishwasher" sphere hit the nail on the head, to the point where most people put Kimahri in the niche of "never unlock any sphere grid stuff until you can get to the spell he starts next to, and then teach it to everyone", but you have to admit that the character switching is a brilliant dynamic that lets you keep your healer safe until you need someone to cast Esuna on the only damage dealer you have in the party watch Lulu order her moogle to kick everybody and miss while you throw blitzballs at a miniature tank made of ice just because it can't attack you for three rounds.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
Further note about Auron - You may note that all of his weapons have the "Piercing" ability on them. That's what lets him ignore armor and deal mega damage to things that Tidus merely tickles.

The mildly interesting note is that most of Kimahri's weapons do the same thing - but of course, Kimahri doesn't do nearly as much damage as Auron. Auron hits like a freight train that's throwing a planet at you - but he's slow, and can't hit a drat thing that's any kind of nimble.

At this point, you've got all your party members, so let's just go over this: By this point, the game has hammered home that basically, most random enemies fall into a category that one specific member of your party kinda hard-counters.

Tidus is an all-rounder, and counters small, nimble ground-based enemies like Wolves. Tidus hits harder than Wakka (who will usually take multiple attacks to kill things Tidus may oneshot), but is more accurate than Auron or Kihamri.
Wakka is lower damage, but sorta in-line with his high Shoot score in Blitzball, is incredibly accurate, and counters airborne enemies - they're the most evasive around, to the point where even Tidus has trouble hitting them.
Lulu counters enemies with an elemental weakness, obviously. Enemies that are intended for Lulu often have physical damage resistance that isn't countered by Auron or Kimahri.
Yuna is your White Mage, but also your Summoner, and thus she can summon an Aeon to go toe-to-toe with bigger single enemies like the giant fuckoff bird thing, or other Large Single Enemies later on.
Auron obliterates the hell out of physical enemies with Heavy Armor. However, he's rather inaccurate, and basically got very lucky with how many dogs he murdered in this latest video, as he usually can't hit them for crap, much less the flying enemies.
Kimahri... can do many things. The way the Normal Sphere Grid works, you can take him into basically anyone's sphere grid you want, but he ends up being a lesser version of whoever's Sphere Grid you take him into. He's basically only good for his Blue Mage abilities. However, he does share Auron's ability to pierce heavy armor, but he doesn't do as much raw damage. I'm not familiar with the Expert Sphere grid though, so I don't know how different it is, but it feels like it's roughly the same thing, just laid out slightly differently.

BlazetheInferno fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Apr 29, 2022

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

BlazetheInferno posted:


At this point, you've got all your party members

wow rikku erasure itc

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Of course rear end in a top hat dad turned into a huge toxic beast that won't leave his son alone while his son is trying to finally get over his bullshit.

Keldulas
Mar 18, 2009

Nidoking posted:

A lot of people give FFX a hard time because the characters can be really goofy when they're living in this goofy story, and the Real Life Comics where the dishwasher broke and the main character just unlocked the "Repair Dishwasher" sphere hit the nail on the head, to the point where most people put Kimahri in the niche of "never unlock any sphere grid stuff until you can get to the spell he starts next to, and then teach it to everyone", but you have to admit that the character switching is a brilliant dynamic that lets you keep your healer safe until you need someone to cast Esuna on the only damage dealer you have in the party watch Lulu order her moogle to kick everybody and miss while you throw blitzballs at a miniature tank made of ice just because it can't attack you for three rounds.

Thank you for your summary. I think my brain shut down entirely during that sequence and so I didn't remember it at all until you summarized it for me.

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil
I would just like to point out that Tidus is Sinspawn.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

wow rikku erasure itc

Rikki will be erased until her goons stop beating me with guns and kidnapping my escort quest :mad:

I sorta forgot to upload the next episode, I'll do it when I get home. We're recording tonight too whoop :toot:

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
Nah nah, that's on me, I legit forgot about her while typing that up.

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

Been playing the PC release of the HD Remaster and apparently you can scout blitzball players from the very start of the game, but you cannot actually hire them until after the game vs. the Luca Goers.

RudeCat
Aug 7, 2012

The rudest cat for the rudest jobs


I always felt bad about changing the team up so I never recruited anyone. Wanted to take the original team all the way to the championship, ya?

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

RudeCat posted:

I always felt bad about changing the team up so I never recruited anyone. Wanted to take the original team all the way to the championship, ya?

There's actually an incentive in late-game outside of Blitzball to have all the original Aurochs on the roster, but I'll leave that for later, and see if the guys discuss it in a video at some point. I tried to do it for a time, but unfortunately, most of the original Aurochs are just bad, rather than being Magikarp-Power examples. They start bad, they stay bad. Keeping the whole team together is just pain. Sad to say it, but there's a reason they've never won a game before.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
:siren:New Episode!:siren:

Let's Play Final Fantasy X Episode 12 - A Whole Gumbus

Man, this road is long as poo poo

G-Mawwwwwww
Jan 31, 2003

My LPth are Hot Garbage
Biscuit Hider
If you ever use that elixir I'm gonna be so disappointed

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




Well, that summon at the end was priceless.

You've missed out on a few upgrades for Khimari by not exploring enough (which, to be fair, is kind of necessary for an LP), but it doesn't matter because Khimari kind of sucks.

Tokyo Sexwale
Jul 30, 2003

Neurion posted:

Been playing the PC release of the HD Remaster and apparently you can scout blitzball players from the very start of the game, but you cannot actually hire them until after the game vs. the Luca Goers.

it was always that way iirc, I'm pretty sure I could do that on the original PS2 release

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
:siren:New Episode!:siren:

Let's Play Final Fantasy X Episode 13 - Bust A Fat Potion

Like hell if I'm going to let anything eat the chocobos before I can

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
Fun fact: If you knock the Chocobo off the cliff, you also get a Lv. 1 Key Sphere, apparently. But in that case, you cannot get potential extra AP from Overkill damage... not that that happened here. But yeah, I think I killed it outright my first time, too. It just kept pushing back before I could push it further toward the cliff. I would push, it would push back.

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




As demonstrated here, poison in this game is obscenely deadly.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!
For those curious, here's the expert sphere grid divided according to the abilities everyone had on the old grid:


Really, this LP is making me want to try FF10 again, but I've also been wanting to go back to 5, 6, 7, 9 and 12.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
:siren:New Episode!:siren:

Let's Play Final Fantasy X Episode 14 - A Bit Much

You know in hindsight I might have been able to rent something to make this a bit easier

Psycho Knight
Jan 19, 2017

"Being a fangame and not bound to a rating, Pokemon Reborn is able to expand more on topics such as death and the extreme dangers Pokemon could pose. These topics...are treated with the respect such a subject deserves."

Let's throw a Medicham into a volcano and make it give the T2 thumbs up!

Solitair posted:

For those curious, here's the expert sphere grid divided according to the abilities everyone had on the old grid:

It's a good example of how, despite the sphere looking very open-ended and flexible, it's really just a series of straight paths with only a handful of deviations.

For comparison, here's how the standard sphere grid actually looks: (credit: Chad Birch)


Here's the link to the super big version where you can see all the individual nodes. Warning that this version is like 14k x 4k pixels and 700kb.


Gnoman posted:

As demonstrated here, poison in this game is obscenely deadly.

To be fair, almost every status ailment in this game is obscenely deadly, with the exception of stuff like silence. This is one of the few games were statuses are a major concern instead of simply a mild nuisance. It's even worse when you take into account underwater battles, since you can't swap out any party members if they are hit with a status you can't immediately cure.

Psycho Knight fucked around with this message at 16:50 on May 2, 2022

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




Psycho Knight posted:

To be fair, almost every status ailment in this game is obscenely deadly, with the exception of stuff like silence. This is one of the few games were statuses are a major concern instead of simply a mild nuisance. It's even worse when you take into account underwater battles, since you can't swap out any party members if they are hit with a status you can't immediately cure.
True, though poison in particular is usually absolutely worthless.





The chocobo feather on the ground indicates that you can jump on that ledge if you're riding a chocobo.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
I can't help but feel that Yuna's getting very neglected in-battle. On the rare occasion she gets brought in, the only thing she gets to do is attempt to smack something for no damage. Why not do some in-combat healing? It's enough to get her AP from the battle (so she actually makes progress toward better spells), cuts down on item use, and reduces chances of people getting instagibbed due to being low on health when something nasty appears.

BlazetheInferno fucked around with this message at 00:49 on May 3, 2022

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
Yuna gets a lot more use later on, I sorta underestimated how powerful her heals were. Boy howdy do we get a lot of use out of Esuna later on :cripes:

Nidoking
Jan 27, 2009

I fought the lava, and the lava won.
I can't stop picturing Auron advancing menacingly toward Lulu, stars circling his head, and Tidus backing away, looking back and forth between Yuna barely keeping her grip on her staff because her hands are full of Remedies, and Wakka, idly bouncing a Blitzball on his knee. And nodding to Wakka.

Status changes are worse underwater, even if you have a character with healing (it's fairly natural to get Tidus into Yuna's Sphere Grid once he finishes his own in the original), mainly because Petrify is instant death. You do get access to some excellent items for healing and removing statuses a bit later, and one of your swimmers can naturally use them, but that's not for a long while and you kind of have to grind for them in a place that's not so fun.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

Danaru posted:

Yuna gets a lot more use later on, I sorta underestimated how powerful her heals were. Boy howdy do we get a lot of use out of Esuna later on :cripes:

Come to think of it, how far ahead do you guys have pre-recorded, out of curiosity?

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
please only put the designated flared blitzballs in your anus. do NOT put regular blitzballs in your anus. they will get stuck. you don't want that image to live rent-free in wakka's head forever, right?

Gnoman posted:

True, though poison in particular is usually absolutely worthless.

isnt cast bio and chill a legit, if not recommended strat for some major boss

Solitair posted:

For those curious, here's the expert sphere grid divided according to the abilities everyone had on the old grid:


wtf kimhari, i know, kimhari, but still

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

BlazetheInferno posted:

Come to think of it, how far ahead do you guys have pre-recorded, out of curiosity?

After this one, we have seven more in the back log. We uh, sorta got ahead of ourselves

:siren:New Episode!:siren:

Let's Play Final Fantasy X Episode 15 - I'll Show You Sonic

I dunno, I really think the cannons and poo poo are going to do more than the chocobo knights using swords.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

wtf kimhari, i know, kimhari, but still

Kimahri's whole gimmick aside from Lancet has always been that he doesn't have his own section of the Sphere Grid - he simply starts in the middle where he can go onto nearly anyone else's grid, and end up a lesser version of them.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
It actually does end up being pretty nice to have a Diet Yuna later on once monsters discover that muting Yuna is really fun

I don't think it's very fun, personally, but wow they really love it

Keldulas
Mar 18, 2009
Kimahri showcases the problem of trying to design a jack of all trades character ala Bards. Though he somehow manages to do it worse with essentially becoming a jack of one trade, master of none.

Though I’m curious how effective Lancet is as a damage move if you have the magic stats of going down Yuna’s path. Never tried that.

Nidoking
Jan 27, 2009

I fought the lava, and the lava won.

Danaru posted:

It actually does end up being pretty nice to have a Diet Yuna later on once monsters discover that muting Yuna is really fun

Don't you get an Echo Ring from solving the Besaid Temple puzzle?

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




No, that gives you a beefy Rod Of Wisdom.

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G-Mawwwwwww
Jan 31, 2003

My LPth are Hot Garbage
Biscuit Hider
This LP fuckin' rules and I'm here until the end.

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