Cup Runneth Over posted:

Technology couldn't even automate supermarket checkouts out of existence. The reality of the physical world is so complex and overwhelming that even throwing billions of dollars and decades of research at self-driving cars by multiple companies with serious commercial incentives to succeed couldn't make them reliable or mainstream. There are more electric vehicles on the road right now than cars driving themselves. Anyone who thinks it's going to render artists or writers or programmers or whatever extinct is letting their imagination run so far away with them they might as well be on a different planet. Don't get me wrong, it's a remarkable leap forward in machine learning. It will be used to make those jobs faster and easier for the humans who do them, if it's used for anything at all. But anyone firing all their staff to replace them with AI is in for a rude awakening.

frumpykvetchbot posted:

Are you talking about phone trees? Like the ones that tells people what words and numbers to say or buttons to press in order to navigate some hellish labyrinth of menus?

Your call is very important to us.

If you're calling about card limits, say limits.

LIMITS.

I'm sorry I didn't understand what you said. If you're calling about card limits, say limits.

Please speak your account number. Say each digit clearly and with pauses in between. When done, say DONE.

Is 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-9-1-2-3 your account number? Please say YES if it is, and NO if it isn't.

YES.

Please speak your account number. Say each digit clearly and with pauses in between. When done, say DONE.

etc etc

loving hell yes I always want to speak to a person if given the choice. Even one for whom English is their second language.

My blood pressure always goes up and my fists are clenching when I'm forced to deal with robotic "customer service".

Eeyo posted:

I've always been more skeptical of this than the other stuff tbh. Like we can forgive a lot of the rough edges for the images we're seeing itt, but I don't think we'll be as ready to forgive the edges in a computer program. I have this feeling that if you asked an ai to make a computer program for you to do a task, you'll just incur a lot of "technical debt" and not really get out ahead in the end.

There's that and I just don't trust programs written by humans to begin with, but I feel like we'll just get even more black boxy if we ask an ai to program poo poo for us. There are a lot of domains where it must be verifiable and audited. Like maybe you could have it build a website for you but idk if you can ask it to write most of excel 2.0. People make real-life decisions with software, but they don't do that with illustrations.

My guess would be that yes, younger generations will be quicker to do that kind of stuff. Like my wife's nephew was very excited to go to one of those Amazon grocery stores. But I refuse to enter an Amazon grocery store. Well that's mostly because I think Amazon is a lovely company we'd be better without, but the creepy panopticon aspect of Amazon doesn't really help. But if you're just used to Amazon listening and recording every waking minute of your life then well why not go there?

Bad Purchase posted:

i know you're bullshitting because in order to train a learning algorithm to produce good code, you would first have to identify a large training set of good code, which does not and will likely never exist

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