Spring 2022 D&D Feedback.

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scary ghost dog: Aug 5, 2007

ram dass in hell posted:

This is plainly false. This is probably also related to your earlier claim that "nothing terrible has happened as a result of my ruleset and enforcement yet". If there were rules against transphobia, that is a change to the environment of the subforum, which clearly have an affect on what is seen as and believed to be acceptable discourse. You don't seem to understand that this outcome is harmful. You don't seem to care that trans people see your forum as a place where they will be poo poo on and mods allow it, to the point of punishing the recipients of the abuse if they get too upset about the abuse being sanctioned by the website in the first place. You don't see this as a terrible outcome, because you claimed nothing terrible has happened. That is a bigoted belief, the belief that free space for bigoted and dehumanizing statements is a positive thing.

You are not just harboring bigots, you are yourself a bigot. This is disqualifying. Resign.

jesus�..laid out like this, its undeniable. koos, theres only one thing you can do at this point. permaban yourself.

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scary ghost dog: Aug 5, 2007

redneck nazgul posted:

I don't see how anyone can believe the following statements simultaneously:

1. There are people in TYOOL 2022 on Something Awful--not the internet at large, this particular website--who are still on the fence about trans issues. It is D&D's job to provide a forum for people to post their skepticism and pseudoscience, because we have to take these people at their word that they're simply skeptical or uninformed, not bigots pretending be as such. To this end, D&D must let these people post things that are barely sourced and borderline offensive because doing otherwise is moderating a position, not behavior. This is healthy, because these self-proclaimed skeptics could potentially be swayed by honest debate and it will help D&D posters get practice in arguing against these positions.

2. Cross-posting takes from D&D and other forums into threads for the purpose of mockery is an abhorrent practice because it encourages posting in a way to get an emotional rise out of people who earnestly believe things.

You have people in positions of power in this thread who believe that directly quoting other posters is more worthy of moderator and administrative action than taking positions that say that certain people--including those who post on this website--should not be allowed to live and exist like everyone else in the world. You have a moderation philosophy that encourages blatantly offensive things in the name of 'good faith and skepticism' and punishes people who point out that saying bigoted things is bigotry, no matter how many layers of irony it's under. It's one thing to post in bad faith and be coy about it, but attacking other posters is apparently even worse. The severity of the crime isn't what's actually said, it's whether there is plausible deniability or not.

The Koos regime's moderation is ultimately just the atmosphere of D&D taken to its logical conclusion: Debates are not won by who is correct, debates are won by who better adheres to the rules. D&D's population is more than happy to endure any amount of literal and ham-handed application of the rules because the people they don't like are going to be punished more severely. It's no wonder that people are saying that D&D's moderation is the best it's been in years--the same people who always get punished are still getting punished, there's just a veneer of 'equality' because some people are also getting sixers.

to be clear, you are offering tacit support for the practice of quoting posts from other forums for the purposes of mockery?

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scary ghost dog: Aug 5, 2007

Herstory Begins Now posted:

consider this test 'if i spout off about this after 6 beers in a 7-11, is someone likely to knock my teeth out'

thats a bad metric because then you could say all kinds of awful things about trans people.

# ¿ Apr 24, 2022 22:47

scary ghost dog: Aug 5, 2007

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

Closing the feedback thread after you do a pretty deliberate misread to call a user a bigot who called you out for enabling bigots is pretty bad imo

It�s the usual cycle of shutting up everyone bringing up the issue and closing all visible avenues to address it besides ignored PMs

koos doesnt ignore PMs because hes a total psycho. just look at his response rate in this thread. hes completely out of his mind and will respond calmly to any stupid bullshit anyone wants to say to him

# ¿ Apr 25, 2022 04:03

scary ghost dog: Aug 5, 2007

all you obnoxious novel posters obsessed with perfect adherence to your moralistic principles should consider yourselves blessed that you have someone as obviously deranged as koos to sit here and respond to every single one of your intolerable posts

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scary ghost dog: Aug 5, 2007

Rob Filter posted:

Fair. The problem is not the exact wording, but more the open dismissiveness to language trans activists are using.

perhaps the issue is conflation of activism with academics.

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