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Left 4 Bread
Oct 4, 2021

i sleep

DoubleNegative posted:

And then, for narrative reasons, I think Playa is gonna be lowering property values in the game's most well known side activity.

:getin:


edit: update on last page

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achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Related news to property values in Stillwater lowering-

Former Yakuza turned Real Estate Kingpin grows new empire, 5 Billionaires upset.

Wait, wrong game. ;)



It makes sense that the Saints will never renovate the entrance hall of their hideout. Gotta keep up cover, you know.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.


Three Kings

DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 18:44 on May 7, 2022

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Hope you can show off the customization menu at some point. I remember it being pretty cool.

I always do Stunt Jumps for completion- I agree they’re a pain. Can we at least know what the Unlock is? I can look it up if you want.

Shaundi sounds like a Vampire Slayer I used to know, or a girl who talked to dead people, or maybe a Doll of some kind… if you don’t get what I’m saying, she’s voiced by Eliza Dushku.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.

achtungnight posted:

I always do Stunt Jumps for completion- I agree they’re a pain. Can we at least know what the Unlock is? I can look it up if you want.

According to the wiki, it's a special skin of the Bootlegger. So with GOTR, that probably means that it's a purple and gold skin, which is something I can do anyway in the car customization.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
I just looked it up, and it’s a Dukes of Hazzard car. Appropriate, I guess. But yeah, easily duplicated. You can also get a Burt Reynolds Bandit car through vehicle stunts.

Left 4 Bread
Oct 4, 2021

i sleep
And the crew is together!

Good ol' Carlos is a real homie.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.


Unfocused Wandering

DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 19:11 on May 9, 2022

Left 4 Bread
Oct 4, 2021

i sleep
Base jumping is what my brother and I spent a lot of time doing in this game for some reason. Just ride on out to the airfields, hijack planes, and skydive,

Good times.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

So a couple of things you brought up relative to the player garage:

1) Customizing a vehicle does automatically add it to your list

2) detonating your vehicles doesn't remove them from your list, and even better sidesteps the repair fee for whatever reason. So gun down your damaged vehicles to respawn them at full, it's fiscally responsibile!

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Is Playa going to rob stores next time? I remember that being fun.

Tombot
Oct 21, 2008
Oh man, this game rewards you for everything, even stupid stuff you may not even consider. It honestly makes every other game in the series feel less rewarding by comparison.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.

FoolyCharged posted:

So a couple of things you brought up relative to the player garage:

1) Customizing a vehicle does automatically add it to your list

2) detonating your vehicles doesn't remove them from your list, and even better sidesteps the repair fee for whatever reason. So gun down your damaged vehicles to respawn them at full, it's fiscally responsibile!

Good to know! I know I've had destroyed vehicles get removed from the garage before, but it's not like this game isn't held together with duct tape and spit at the best of times. It may also have been a situation like what happened with the helicopter. Where it has to get unloaded from memory first before you can recall it from the garage. Game is a bit weird, but the fact that it's playable at all 14 years later is a minor miracle!

achtungnight posted:

Is Playa going to rob stores next time? I remember that being fun.

It's going to be in one of the next several updates. I found one that takes no time at all to rob, so I was able to quickly iterate through the 20 robberies required.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.


Stilwater Caverns

DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 23:53 on May 13, 2022

Left 4 Bread
Oct 4, 2021

i sleep
Fun trick for Fraud, if you really need to keep a combo going while in adrenaline mode, the air control actually lets you just kinda rub your ragdoll self on cars like a human sponge. It doesn't contact for much reward, but it'll keep it going until some other car comes around to slam into.

I've never actually gone into the restored Saints' church, so that was new for me.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
If you think Insurance Fraud is nuts here, wait till SR4. Several million in minutes thx to super powers. :) Never played Gat Out of Hell so I’m not sure of the profit potential there. Are we scamming God or something? I know the game plot from Wikipedia, just not sure how Insurance Fraud works in Hell.

The reward from Robbery is more fun than the work to get it, in retrospect. But hey, now we can eat like Big Smoke. :)

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

achtungnight posted:

If you think Insurance Fraud is nuts here, wait till SR4. Several million in minutes thx to super powers. :) Never played Gat Out of Hell so I’m not sure of the profit potential there. Are we scamming God or something? I know the game plot from Wikipedia, just not sure how Insurance Fraud works in Hell.
It's called Torment Fraud and you play as generic zombie husks representing various characters from the series, trying to shave off a few thousand years from their hell sentences. I don't remember what it's like mechanically, but I assume it's close to IV.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
My buddy Bel says the game is confusing Hell with Purgatory and his fellow devils will probably find all sorts of fine print in that sort of Fraud. Do not argue legal matters with Devils.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.


Because we're gonna be coming to the end of my recorded footage soon, I did some more recording tonight. Some of these races are pretty bad.

achtungnight posted:

My buddy Bel says the game is confusing Hell with Purgatory and his fellow devils will probably find all sorts of fine print in that sort of Fraud. Do not argue legal matters with Devils.

:hmmyes: This is a pretty good point. Though Gat out of Hell takes place in Christian Hell, so it's just got regular-rear end Satan instead of Lawful Evil Devils.

EDIT: I just realized the newspaper clippings have text associated with them. Gonna edit those into the previous mission updates, but here they all are for posterity:


quote:

A former member of the famed Third Street Saints awoke from a coma today, orchestrating a symphony of destruction that engulfed the entire island penitentiary. The inmate had been taken to the prison infirmary after awaking, and from there overpowered a prison doctor before making their way outside. After an intense gunfight, the fugitive presumably made their way to the prison's dock and escaped pursuit by boat. Details are sketchy, but it is presumed this dangerous individual was aided by another inmate.


quote:

In a stunning turn of events, Johnny Gat has escaped custody moments after being convicted of multiple counts of 1st degree murder. After the guilty verdict was read; an armed assailant, who is presumed to have recently escaped prison, burst into the courtroom and freed Gat. The pair then managed to fight their way out of the courthouse and lost their police pursuit somewhere Downtown. The attack has left numerous dead, including one judge.


quote:

The streets of Stilwater are beginning to overcrowd. A recent surge in the homeless population has been attributed to an attack on an underground shanty town. It is unclear as to what precisely occurred; as attempts to interview the displaced have thus far lead only to repeated stabbings and wallet theft. We will keep you updated as these attacks directed toward the homeless continue to spike.


quote:

Apparently, it has all been leading up to this. It began with a presumably benign prison break, but it has ended with the resurrection of the dreaded Third Street Saints. Residents have reported multiple sightings of the purple clad crew roaming the area, doing anything and everything to impress possible recruits -- from gang related killings to dangerous joyriding. The gang has kept relatively quiet, but we at the Stilwater Gazette can only assume this is indeed just the calm before the storm.


quote:

Tourists to Stilwater's underground caverns received a shock today as dozens of homeless flooded into tourist areas and past confused citizens. Caverns authorities believe the homeless had been living somewhere deeper within the facility when people—most likely teenagers—attacked the make-shift shanty town and forced its residents to find safety.

DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 03:14 on May 10, 2022

Left 4 Bread
Oct 4, 2021

i sleep

DoubleNegative posted:



Tourists to Stilwater's underground caverns received a shock today as dozens of homeless flooded into tourist areas and past confused citizens. Caverns authorities believe the homeless had been living somewhere deeper within the facility when people—most likely teenagers—attacked the make-shift shanty town and forced its residents to find safety.

This is probably the most Stilwater response to this you could have.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.


Septic Avenger (Suburbs Expansion)

DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 04:35 on May 17, 2022

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Fond memories of Septic Avenger here. The races, not so much.

Left 4 Bread
Oct 4, 2021

i sleep
I rather liked motorcycles in this game, although I can agree that the races are pretty rough.

Septic Avenger still remains one of the best things about this game.

Cyflan
Nov 4, 2009

Why yes, I DO have enough CON to whip my hair.

Septic Avenger is always fun.

And yeah, pretty sure the Accuracy increases just reduce bullet spread and that's it.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.


Got Dust, Will Travel

DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 23:17 on May 19, 2022

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
The Sons of Samedi scared me the most of the SR 2 gangs. Drugged up, ruthless, and out of their minds. Way scarier than stereotype redneck bikers or yakuza wannabes.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Eh, they always felt... off to me. Like they didn't really belong in the game and had actually time traveled from SR3.

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

DoubleNegative posted:

"Yo, Papa Shango, I'm talkin' to The General."
This, by the way, is one of the 800 million pro wrestling references in Saints Row. Papa Shango was an early 90s WWF wrestler with a voodoo practitioner gimmick heavily based on Baron Samedi.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.

DMorbid posted:

This, by the way, is one of the 800 million pro wrestling references in Saints Row. Papa Shango was an early 90s WWF wrestler with a voodoo practitioner gimmick heavily based on Baron Samedi.

I am not familiar with wrestling at all, so please keep pointing them out as we see them! I like learning about new stuff like that.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.


Hello everyone and welcome back. Before we dive into the first Ronin mission, there's a mod I wanted to point out that I'm using. I didn't even realize it was still installed until last week when I remembered it existed, went to look it up, found the change log, and realized I had all the fixes it made.

Don't ask me how it survived being reinstalled on Steam because I don't know.



So if we look at Playa's wardrobe, we can see a little option on the bottom "(X) Switch to Store". And if we hit the X button...





Every article of clothing in the game is now for sale at our fingertips! So we don't have to track down specific shops to find that one tie tack we remember seeing once. We can just look it up on the online store.

Now it's worth pointing out that the Ultor.com store does not feature deals. So later on when we have a 15% discount for clothing, that will not apply here. Consider it a convenience fee.



Just for the sake of showing it off, and because we can later change its color scheme at will, I buy a blue tanktop.



This is the wardrobe view again and, like I said, with this mod we can customize the color of any piece of clothing we own. So if I wanted Playa's hat to be purple and gold, I could do that. We won't, but we could!



The mod also adds Jane's newscasts to the clipboard when you go to replay a mission. This mod is also responsible for the silly loading screen tips I'd been attributing to Gentlemen of the Row!

The mod is called SuperUI for SR2. If you're playing along with the LP, then give it a go! Its quality of life features are so nice.

Anyway, time to visit the Poseidon Casino...




Keeping It Simple

Pierce is seated in front of a strange cardboard edifice. Several bobble heads and at least one chess piece are scattered around the little play-house haphazardly. From the way he's muttering to himself and from how his arms are moving, it's hard to tell if he's rehearsing what's about to go down or if he's actually playing with his dollhouse.

Hearing nearby Saints snickering at Pierce, Playa finally has enough and has to ask him about it. Gat also approaches because he can't resist getting in the middle of Ronin business.

"What's up with the doll house?"
"Doll house my rear end, this is how we gonna gently caress up the Ronin."



"This'll be good..."
"Trust me, it is. The Ronin have a stake in Poseidon's Palace, so I figure hitting their biggest money maker is a good way to show 'em we not fuckin' around."
"Okay, sounds good so far. What's your plan?"



"You and I enter the casino here..."
"Hold up, why am I the pawn?"
"What? It doesn't matter."
"Gat has his own piece, and your piece looks like you. So why am I the pawn?"
"Because I only had these three figures. Now shut up and listen. Once inside we need to distract this security guard, I was thinking you could catch me cheating, or some poo poo like that."



"Anyway, while the guard's concerned with throwing me out, Gat'll sneak in through this security door...don't worry, I already got today's passcode from the blackjack dealer Shaundi's loving."



The longer Pierce goes on, the faster he speaks. He's been planning this for a while and is pretty excited for his master plan to finally be laid bare.

"Now, once inside, Gat'll have to sneak past the guards to cut the power....when that happens we only have about 45 seconds before the backup generator turns on."



He's ready to move in for the kill with his brilliance, but Gat has another idea.

"During the blackout, though-"
"Hold up man...I mean, I love the dream house you built here and everything. But what if we just start here...walk into the casino, and just shoot all the motherfuckers that are between us and the money?"



"Well, ya know-"
"It would be a lot faster and a lot less complicated."
"And a lot more fun."
"Yeah, but..."
"gently caress it, let's go... good call Johnny."





"The heist, man..."



A purple Bootlegger is waiting outside, all gassed up and ready to go. Playa jumps in the driver's seat and Gat slides in next to her in the passenger seat.



"You think Pierce is upset we didn't go with his heist idea?"
"He'll get over it."
"Shaundi said he'd been putting a lot of work in on it."
"Yeah, but it was too complex and it had me sneakin' around. I don't sneak."
"True. Subtle isn't exactly in the Saints playbook."
"Not after what happened with Lin it ain't."



"You're gonna love what I've got planned for the Ronin."
"Do we know who's in charge?"
"A kid named Shogo Akuji. Now he probably spends more time on his hair than he does on his bike, but it doesn't change the fact that he's totally ruthless."



"I hate him already. Is Pierce takin' his own car?"
"Pierce is pickin' up some of the other Saints and meeting us there... I figure we can get the party started without 'em."





As Playa nears the marina district, her phone rings.

"Sup holmes, it's Carlos... I was diggin' 'round like you asked and I found out the guy runnin' the Brotherhood is some bad muthafucka named Maero. Anyway, Maero found out I was lookin' int-"
"He what?"
"Hey, hey... be cool it's not so bad. Maero asked to sit down and have a chat with you... he wants to work something out before things get out of control."
"Where's he wanna meet?"
"The underground caverns."
"Yeah, that's totally not a trap... set up the meet for tomorrow."
"Not today?"
"Gat and me are about to go loud on the Ronin. If Maero wants to talk preemptive peace, I'm sure he would appreciate me not bringing the lovely Yakuza down on his head."
"Yeah, I think that would be for the best. 'Aight I'll let him know."
"Thanks, Carlos."



Gat, the whole time, is giving Playa an odd look.

"Did I hear that right? Maero, the psychotic leader of the Brotherhood, wants to talk peace?"
"I know, right? Carlos said he wants to meet in the underground caverns."
"That's definitely a trap."
"Is it still a trap if you walk into it while fully aware it is one?"
"Nah, that's just fun then."



Playa and Gat ditch the Bootlegger up the street and walk in nice and casual-like. None of the Ronin milling around suspect a thing as the pair enter the casino.



The guards don't care if you're visibly packing heat, so don't feel like you need to hide the weapons here. It just means we can go loud the second we set foot in.



The first shots in the great Saints-Ronin war ring out on two unassuming guards in the casino. From there, it's all out panic.



Guests and croupiers alike cower behind the tables while assholes in yellow motorcycle jackets pull weapons out of seemingly nowhere and open fire.



Playa does similarly. She puts her twin GDHC .50s into her waistband and unslings her Tombstone from its holster inside her silk shirt.



It doesn't take long before the last of the initial guards fall. Though the gunshots ringing out are unmistakable.

"Did we ever get that passcode from Pierce?"
"I thought we weren't gonna go with his heist idea."
"He still got the vault's passcode from Shaundi's gently caress buddy."
"...poo poo. Guess we're doing this the old-fashioned way, then."



"Watch my back while I set the charges."



Over the next several minutes, Ronin footsoldiers trickle into the casino floor and open fire on Gat. Playa rushes around and guns as many of them down as she can.

If Gat goes down, you thankfully don't fail. You just have to get him up by pouring a 40 on him.



"Get clear!"

You'll take a lot of damage and possibly even die if you're standing too close to the bombs when they go off.

Playa and Gat both dive away from the vault doors. A scant few seconds later, a massive explosion rocks the casino floor, filling the whole room with thick black smoke.



Outside, Pierce pulls up in a Mule truck.



Several minutes later, the Saints have stuffed as much money as they can carry into the back of the truck. Pierce and his crew grab the old Bootlegger to run interference, while Playa and Gat get in the truck and take off.



Johnny messes with his phone and pulls up a police scanner app a moment later.

"All units, we have a robbery in progress. Suspects were last seen entering a large box truck outside of Poseidon's Palace and were seen heading west."
"Well they called the cops... big surprise there."
"Man, robbin' casinos is easy money."
"Yeah, but before we start buying new cars we better clean this money."
"We take that money to the hideout and someone is gonna walk off with it before we get a chance to clean it."



"Don't worry about it, I'll take it to Eesh's."
"Aisha isn't gonna be a fan of that."
"She'll be fine."





Playa is surprisingly able to lose the cops and Ronin tail by taking the roundabout way through the suburbs. By the time they pull up to Aisha's house, nobody is following them.

This is a lie. The police and Ronin were hot on my tail. But the game assumes you well out of your way to hit Forgive and Forget. But there's no penalty for just going straight to Aisha's house.



Across town in an unspecified tower downtown...

The Model of Discipline

"Kono kajino no gen'ni ichi-ken wa, Akuji-san wa chotto..."
"Jyunichi, you need to relax..."

Shogo Akuji is getting a massage from a hooker while he's holding a conversation with his bodyguard, Jyunichi.



"Akuji-san kara kakusu no wa murina node wa?"
"My father won't find out about the casino..."



"Son'nani amaku wanaidesu."



"Don't question me Jyunichi...and we're in America, speak English."
"Forgive me Shogo."

Jyunichi bows low to Shogo, who meanwhile calms back down with the help of his cigarette. All of the sudden, theres a knock at the door. In one swift motion, Jyunichi pulls out his sword and adopts a ready stance.



"A little jumpy today?"





Shogo pulls the partition back to reveal it's just room service. Jyunichi looks completely stunned. The concierge looks to Shogo, who gestures into the room.

"Over there."





He bows politely to Jyunichi and walks back out of the room, hand outstretched for a tip.



Shogo doesn't care and slams the partition in his face.



Shogo collects his bottle of wine from the tray.

"Sword."





Jyunichi is careful to hide his true feelings and dutifully follows orders. But he has misgivings about his boss.



On the way back to his chair, Shogo slices the bottle open with Jyunichi's katana.



"Listen Jyunichi, I know you're having a hard time...adjusting, to the way I run things here.





Back in his seat, Shogo looks over at the hooker and snaps his fingers. He points into his lap and opens up his arms.





"But how about you let me deal with my father and you deal with whatever the gently caress I tell you to deal with."

The hooker gets down on her knees and gets to work. Jyunichi bows obsequiously once again, averting his eyes from what is already happening in front of him.

"Of course Shogo."
"Excellent..."



Shogo leans back in the chair and takes a drag off his cigarette, his mind already going elsewhere.


quote:

Poseidon's Palace was the scene of a deadly robbery today as Johnny Gat and the leader of the Third Street Saints stormed the casino. The pair apparently blasted their way to the back of the casino, and then set explosives to crack the casino safes. The Saints then escaped the casino under a hail of gunfire before somehow eluding police.

"It was the god Poseidon who watched over sailors setting forth from Greece, ensuring their safety. Sadly, the Grecian deity was unable to extend this same protection to his Texas Hold 'Em tables. While details remain sketchy at best, early reports have said Troy Bradshaw is handling the investigation personally. More on this daring robbery as the story unfolds. I'm Jane Valderamma, channel 6 news."



One more intro mission to go! And you already know what it is. Next time we're talking to Maero! I know it's funnier if you save the Brotherhood til last, but this keeps the difficulty in the story missions about equivalent. It can be really weird to go from maximum difficulty at the end of a gang story to minimum at the beginning of another.

This also means that Stilwater is embroiled in chaos for as long as humanly possible instead of having it ebb and flow.

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achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
As is the way of the Saints. :)

The Ronin never really impressed me. Samurai/Yakuza wannabes, all of them, and they seem more of a theme gang than a serious threat. What happens later doesn't change that... much.

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