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The OP seems to be assuming two things: 1. That because Trump's uncouth, erratic, and quite blatantly self-serving personality isn't what most "elites" desire in a President, this must mean Trump is some sort of hero of the toiling masses. 2. That because large segments of "the elite" proclaim support for all sorts of causes associated with "the left" (broadly defined) such as gay rights, this is evidence such causes are ipso facto bad and anyone who supports said causes is automatically doing the bidding of "the elites." The second point forms the basis for a lot of reactionary conspiracy theories about how the billionaire [Illuminati/Freemasons/Marxists/Satanists/Jews] are trying to subjugate [Americans/white people/Christians] via the promotion of "degeneracy." That's always a risk when one's analysis is restricted to opposing a nebulous "elite" on conservative grounds. Enver Zogha fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Apr 26, 2022 |
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Rob Filter posted:That's a really interesting point! "THE ELITES" as synonym for "People with power over you", with who exactly has power left as a vague exercise for the reader. Meaning that each person viewing your argument can come to their own separate-perhaps-contradictory version of who "THE ELITES" are. Conservatives, as ostensible defenders of the cultural status quo, have to explain why things same-sex marriage end up triumphing despite conservative resistance. As a result, conservatives are more likely to fixate on "elites" not just among particular "bad" capitalists, but also academia and pop culture. It's how you can see conservative pundits be like "argh these Hollywood weirdos like Sean Penn live in mansions and think they can talk down to us God-fearing all-American patriots," and that public schools are quietly rearing a generation of transgender communist revolutionaries in accordance with the dastardly theories of Antonio Gramsci or whatever. So a typical liberal will be like "argh [insert particular capitalists] donate money to the Republican Party to get richer, not caring about democracy or the environment" and argue the solution is to vote Democrat. Whereas a typical conservative is more likely to espouse culture-based conspiracy theories about how "liberal elite" career politicians, journalists, and professors want to emasculate men in order to set up a socialist dictatorship which will be ruled by Marxist-infiltrated Big Tech in alliance with blue-haired feminists, or some variation of the theme. The presence of "bad" capitalists isn't usually absent in conservative narratives, but it's generally a specific group of "globalists" or other "un-Americans" and the capitalists in question are accused of being communists and/or seeking to promote "degeneracy." Enver Zogha fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Apr 30, 2022 |
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