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The Elites like both parties since both parties are their role in government is to protect corporations and free markets. People lean democratic for PR as can be seen herePT6A posted:Have you considered that the people who you consider "elite" might become and stay elite by, among other things, having the barest modicum of simple human decency, making modern conservatism anathema to them? You publicly show that you're a prodem rich person then you want PR and being a "good person" and a prorepub rich person then you want money. And in practice you support both parties who work together while pretending to fight.
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toterunner posted:What's something as egregious as the Hunter Biden laptop censorship that went the other way? I'm getting disappointed in the conspiracy theorists of today. Just a bunch of warmed over propaganda from the Republican party. Open an actual book for once. I recommend "poisoner in chief" or "The Jakarta method" to get an actual understanding of the agencies that control the US and are primarily controlled through it's elite due to nothing more than basic classism, all of the three letter agencies are full of the rich because whoops, the only people the presidents knew to recruit for them were other rich people. In short, the people in power don't lean towards either political party. The political parties are for poor idiots like us to argue over so we can't figure out how to fight back. Gumball Gumption fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Apr 25, 2022 |
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toterunner posted:Like what? A common criticism of BLM is that they don't make concrete demands. The two responses to this I see are that they are making the clear demand to stop killing black people, or provision of lists of hundreds of demands, neither of which is helpful. An individual black person is twice as likely to be killed by police. You're understanding those stats a little backwards and also letting them just kind of hang out there in the air without much context or understanding. First, there's less black people in America so the proportional share of people killed by the police of higher for them than white people. And you're missing context. Ok 40% of violent criminals are black. Why? Without any attempt to say why you're just giving us a number. However, I think you are absolutely noticing something with the media and public support of BLM. There is no one BLM group. There is no one set of demands or asks. You have Democrats who were making noises about defunding the police two years ago and now talking about how the police actually need more money and covering it all in supporting BLM and the police will use the money to finally learn how not to kill. And the news absolutely avoids talking about the police killing white people in the same way even though they do. Poor white people with mental health problems are often targets for the police but the majority of stories are of the police taking extreme pitty on white people. But I think what you have backwards here is the why. It's not out of some love of the Democrats. It's because it needs to be a fully racial issue to keep people divided. That's why you see these institutions and people who are very interested in the status quo latching into BLM and other movements. It makes them look good, defangs those movements, and keeps the conversation on race and actively attacking any class conversation which surprise, ends up driving away people like you who could be allies. It's to create false divisions. Honestly I think if you are noticing this and are asking questions you can figure this out but you need to stop seeing it as a racial issue or a Democrats vs. Republicans issue. There are few actual conspiracies out there. There are however many instances of humans who want the same things working in tandem because well, they want the same thing. There isn't some grand plan, they're just copying each other like the great apes we are. What you're seeing is just a bunch of people who are currently really successful being invested in the status quo wanting to keep things the way they are because, well, they're really successful. And because they have that interest they make similar decisions and share ideas and use their influence to change the world around them like anyone else would. They just have a lot of influence because again, they're currently really successful. Mind you, success doesn't mean anything but luck. You know, the reason it seems like everyone in the media talks and thinks the same is because the only people who can afford to go to school and then take those jobs are the kids of the rich. They have the connections that give them the way in and you and I, regardless of skin color, will not be allowed in. We are denied. Also, to try to answer the original question, eh, not really. They are just a bunch of people who rule the world because they have a lot of money and the way things currently work having a lot of money let's you rule the world. They lean each way based on what they think will continue their success, improve it, and keep you from succeeding because they are successful in a world where only many people can win. Both parties and the upper class are all playing defense.
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toterunner posted:This shows that 1595/5950 ~ 27% of police shooting victims between 2015 and 2022 were black. This says that 224/563 ~ 40% of cop killers from 2005-2014 were black (afaik this is the last time this data were published) and this says that 36.4 % of violent criminals in 2019 were black. Could you explain to the class what those numbers mean to you?
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Where did the op go?? Hoping we can open the discussion up to phrenology so we can find the elites he can't seem to identify Mods are afraid of his truth
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