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Koos Group
Mar 6, 2013

toterunner posted:

That person said I could retroactively change the definition of elite to suit my argument. I challenge anyone to offer a definition of elite whereby they don't support Biden and Clinton over Trump.

I've been aware that some people seem to still have a narrative that elites are right wing, which I took as stubborn clinging to outdated ideas, and that tweet was just an example of that narrative I saw today and I wanted to see if there were any good arguments in support of it. My conclusion now is that nobody is seriously going to argue that elites aren't anti-Trump but they're arguably right wing in a Reganite sense. Perhaps that's more salient to leftists who espouse that narrative, where elites being anti-Trump is salient to people like me (and most republicans) who believe that elites delegitimize the existing, Trumpist republican base.

So if I understand this correctly, the reason you haven't provided a specific definition of elites is because you believe your thesis is true no matter what definition is used?

I think it would still be better and demonstrate good faith to choose a precise definition. You could just use one of the income brackets from the OP, presumably. But having agreed-upon terms is very important to good debate.

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