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Rockman Reserve posted:Also, jeez, it's interesting looking back at Umineko 1 (spoilers for up to 6) and realizing how often the narrative explicitly lies to you right from the start. Suuuuuure, Kinzo is screaming into the typhoon, right. Where the gently caress is my red text at.
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Jun 28, 2022 23:39
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I maintain it was more of a community ARG than anything an individual reader was likely to solve.
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Jul 1, 2022 02:20
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Yeah there's a couple of arcade routes that have full spoilers.
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Oct 17, 2022 21:22
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I wouldn't hesitate to play the last two episodes.
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Nov 12, 2022 03:34
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VostokProgram posted:I suppose that makes sense. But do George and Jessica actually know? And they're cool with it? Maria of course recognises people by voice and personality (see: 'bad mama'). Yasu changes between Beatrice, Shannon and Kanon right in front of her and she still acknowledges them as different people. I'd note that a few people comment on the resemblance and assume they're brother/sister, even though Kanon and Shannon are always vague about whether they're actually blood related.
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Dec 1, 2022 19:23
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Ending: Yeah what we see in the ep7 tea party is presumably the contents of Eva's diary that Ange reads, or at least consistent with it. It's difficult to explain why she'd say nothing in public and then lie privately.
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Dec 1, 2022 19:53
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I love the reception desk scene. It's so good
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Dec 9, 2022 17:55
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There's more explicit answers out there, but once you've finished ep8 I'd suggest rereading episode 2. If you read it in the right way it explains the motive shockingly directly.
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Dec 21, 2022 23:36
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Rockman Reserve posted:drat it I just reread that one but I split it up with rereading 5 and 6 sooo I'm having trouble with keeping my thoughts straight, can you point to a general scene or two I should consider in a different light or should I finish out 8 first? I mean I'm guessing it's something with the aquarium and/or proposal scenes, or maybe the Kanon/Shannon/Beatrice showdown where Beatrice goes off all angrily about how love is physical...?
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Dec 21, 2022 23:53
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The core twist of it being way simpler than advertised is very similar imo
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Jan 1, 2023 01:32
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Rockman Reserve posted:Yeah but the first hint is all “well who can you rule out as a culprit because they’re telling the truth”, which is like…. nobody if the culprit isn’t required to lie. It’s throwing me off bad. e: also bear in mind that non-purple text from the narrator is guaranteed to be true. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Jan 12, 2023 |
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Jan 12, 2023 01:28
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LordMune posted:Not to put too fine a point on it, but (ep7) Shannon is padded the hell up. Consider that Yasuda wanted to be found out and Shannon makes no attempt to shield herself. Had her boob-ruse been uncovered, it's likely the murder plot would have been abandoned right then and there. This is echoed again in episode 2, where Jessica laments Shannon and George not sharing a room on their trip to the aquarium—had they done so, all would have come undone well before the family conference of 1986. Umineko is full of near-misses like that, and it rules. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Jan 13, 2023 |
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Jan 13, 2023 01:13
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Ultimately Umineko is entirely Sayo's story, and there are parts of it they will never say directly. A lot of the more sensitive issues are wrapped up in metaphors in the first two episodes that you'll never understand the first time reading. I definitely think "Sayo" is the true name incidentally, just because it lines up so well with Knox's First.
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Feb 19, 2023 15:50
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Also full spoilers Very funny how Erika manages to step on this exact rake 3 times in a row at the end of episode 6
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Jan 20, 2024 03:52
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VostokProgram posted:Also Lambda is the referee. You can think of Erika's actions as Bern writing secret orders and giving them to Lambda to resolve. No Wave posted:I think the game master is responsible for manipulating every actor except the detective. So if the seals were unbroken it demonstrates that the game master didn't run their game correctly - he can't retroactively change what the detective has witnessed. Similarly Erika did actually cut everyone's head off during the game and Battler can't change that.
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(Whole series spoilers) The initial pitch to accomplices (other than Genji) is a fake murder mystery game. Depending on the episode the accomplices can realize earlier or later that they were tricked, but the threat of the bomb and the general difficulty of explaining the situation to the others means its hard for any accomplice to fully turn on the killer. The mystery is usually insanely obvious on a reread. For example Gohda and Kumasawa are both acting poorly in episode 2 after supposedly seeing Kanon and require prompting from Sayo and Genji to remember what their lines were supposed to be.
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