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Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

Smythe posted:

yes op. it is performative. they are PERFORMING FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS :milk:


And pointless! Like I said I can kinda see where that Jacobin writer was coming from, even if I disagree.


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Edit2: drat, vb sabotage lol

Blood Boils has issued a correction as of 03:49 on May 11, 2022

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Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Blood Boils posted:

And pointless! Like I said I can kinda see where that Jacobin writer was coming from, even if I disagree.


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Edit2: drat, vb sabotage lol

how is exposing bad positions (No on m4a) to constituents pointless

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Smythe posted:

how is exposing bad positions (No on m4a) to constituents pointless

EVerythings pointless if you're a nihilist posting on the internet.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

In Training posted:

EVerythings pointless if you're a nihilist posting on the internet.

thats a shame

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
tbh im not even sure how you bring bills to the floor in the house. they have to make it out cmte first, yes? but can you just spam them in there too? even if its an unrelated cmte? can the chair just refuse to agendize it forever?

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
how did "ftv" work, technically? i may have known this at one point and im sure its easy to find out but maybe someone here knows and can just tell us... ??

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

Smythe posted:

how is exposing bad positions (No on m4a) to constituents pointless

Uh, it's not? Sorry if I'm not being clear here, but I'm saying

Blood Boils posted:

Oh I didn't know she promised to force the vote. Did she give a reason why for the "no"? Fwiw I personally think forcing the vote should have been the play but it does also seem kinda performative and pointless without a chance to pass :shrug: still seems pretty small potatoes given youse guys' political landscape, there must be more to it.

Like, I think it's understandable that not everyone thought force the vote was worthwhile. And I'm unsure that this position, while wrong, is the smoking gun some peeps seem to think it is.

But I admit my foreign ignorance, and I would like to know more of pieces of her pattern of behaviour (or Bernie or the rest of the squad)

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

the squad is a media invention, they have never voted as a bloc and never will. there have been times when they could have withheld their votes like, for example, refusing to seat pelosi, and who knows what. could have pushed for any kind of legislative trades if they had discipline. but they dont, bc they are not beholden to a party.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Blood Boils posted:

Uh, it's not? Sorry if I'm not being clear here, but I'm saying

Like, I think it's understandable that not everyone thought force the vote was worthwhile. And I'm unsure that this position, while wrong, is the smoking gun some peeps seem to think it is.

But I admit my foreign ignorance, and I would like to know more of pieces of her pattern of behaviour (or Bernie or the rest of the squad)

if the bill was brought to the floor, people would have to go on record voting either for or against it. people voting against it would be demonically roasted for doing so. even if it was manchin or sinema or another "rotating villain" it would still generate public outrage. this is a tool to get them primaried by their constituents. yes? am i wrong? is there some technical thing i dont know? its very possible that this is the case

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
Man i don't know I'm not a drat Yankee

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

hell yeah finally. the bro zone/mtw thread

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


hell yeah i support the squad. i want them to have long, beautiful careers that make them powerful. i want my qweens to be in power in their old age, to be the gerontocratic ghouls of the future. i want their young selves posted on future hell version of oldschoolcool so that the kids they're crushing can see that they were hot once with banging bods and big tiddies. i support women. i believe women. i want the glass ceiling shattered, we should have a cia woman from the squad as president at least once. maybe she'll be a republican. as long as they were dsa once, i consider it a win

biceps crimes has issued a correction as of 04:37 on May 11, 2022

Durf
Aug 16, 2017




Masculine Thrust posted:

The job of American Marxists now is to reconnect with the international movement, the one that upholds and looks up to the best parts of American culture and history (would any American leftist org add George Washington as a posthumous member, the way Mao said he would have been a good Communist and welcomed into the CCP?)

for the record this kind of appeal worked out really well for Ho Chi Minh

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

ho chi minh didn't uphold the french flag and long for an era of better, more equitable colonialism. "patriotic socialists" are morons who don't read the people they canonize aside from some cherry picked segments they can torture into supporting their worldview

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://files.catbox.moe/6l4ibk.mp4

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

R. Guyovich posted:

ho chi minh didn't uphold the french flag and long for an era of better, more equitable colonialism. "patriotic socialists" are morons who don't read the people they canonize aside from some cherry picked segments they can torture into supporting their worldview

it’s like the people using Lenin to argue why you should vote Democrat

pushpins
Sep 11, 2006


Title text (optional; no images are allowed, only text)
Lenin: What must be done?
Democrats: Vote!

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Smythe posted:

how did "ftv" work, technically? i may have known this at one point and im sure its easy to find out but maybe someone here knows and can just tell us... ??

First make sure you remove your shoes and socks. Then you place your foot into the woman's vagina. Can be difficult and depends largely on the bodies of both you and the woman you're doing FTV with

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

hell yeah finally. the bro zone/mtw thread

you just said the same thing twice 😂😂😂

henkman
Oct 8, 2008
I never trust women in the first place

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Yeah, I think right up till that summer of 2020

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,
i didnt think she was gonna do poo poo but i thought it was going to be the start of things, like OWS

but instead she represents the end stage of opposition to the establishment being fully neutered, like OWS

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
i was more cynical towards OWS than AOC.

but now that im adorno, horkheimer, marcuse, and debord pilled i realize its all a veil of control.... like the Matrix.... O_O

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Yeah. The real con wasn't so much AOC but electoralism. It's not that capitalism is that strong; the left is too weak.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Smythe posted:

i was more cynical towards OWS than AOC.

but now that im adorno, horkheimer, marcuse, and debord pilled i realize its all a veil of control.... like the Matrix.... O_O

they’re the same picture meme dot png

Zvahl
Oct 14, 2005

научный кот
yes

im incredibly stupid however

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
I'm proud of the self crit in this thread. Great job everybody.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

Smythe posted:

how did "ftv" work, technically? i may have known this at one point and im sure its easy to find out but maybe someone here knows and can just tell us... ??

I think we're supposed to watch Jimmy dore to find out

Not it!

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

StashAugustine posted:

on the one hand, she's only arguably slightly better than the pack of drooling reactionary psychopaths in congress. On the other goons must always stake out the maximalist position and defend it to the death

Rand Paul is a more effective anti imperialist politician then AOCIA

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Smythe posted:

i was more cynical towards OWS than AOC.

but now that im adorno, horkheimer, marcuse, and debord pilled i realize its all a veil of control.... like the Matrix.... O_O

You have been cucked by the cia leftoid intellectual

The poo poo of america

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
https://twitter.com/eliza_relman/status/1527351842627530753?s=20&t=LmcYl1s3CNzSUo6d53-hJA


Noooooo

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Yes, to me. Picture unrelated.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

actually she is getting married to Bernie

e: Bill Maher voice: So it looks like AOC is getting engaged. Yeah maybe you've heard of her fiance... Karl Marx??

NeatHeteroDude
Jan 15, 2017

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

hell yeah finally. the bro zone/mtw thread

Someone reinforced Smyth for pretending to be a weird horny freak as a joke and now he thinks people like his boring bit

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

actually she is getting married to Bernie

e: Bill Maher voice: So it looks like AOC is getting engaged. Yeah maybe you've heard of her fiance... Karl Marx??

lol

the white hand
Nov 12, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
that joke is too appropriate and free of sexism for bill maher to say

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 22 hours!

grats to my man here. great work king

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

grats to my man here. great work king

this

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