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The show depicts, approvingly: - USSR doesn’t fall (immediately, although it still seems a pretty grim place) - No Thatcher (the IRA got lucky once this time) - No HW Bush government - Good stuff and advances coming primarily from government action - Both the USSR and the USA having technical advancements that cover each others’ weak spots, with a strong implication that sharing this knowledge is a Good Thing It’s not a leftist show in the way that, say, Severance is but it’s a pretty solid left-liberal one. Taking an ideological position that no private corporation can ever under any circumstances be shown to succeed at anything would be a lot dumber than the show runners have so far shown themselves to be.
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Look the show will likely be nuanced on it anyway (aka not pure enough, up against the wall comrade) but I think if anyone was to walk away from the first episode and note notice the characters all being derogatory about private space flight and the very first episodes story being about private space flight literally killing people then idk what to say, it’s definitely not saying it’s da best If we are talking politics of this show did anyone think it kinda rehabilitated Reagan a bit or am I just being an over reading into it goon? Having him see the handshake and immediately go and sign a treaty with Moscow makes it feel like he was good the whole time he just needed someone to show him the way or some poo poo.
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teacup posted:If we are talking politics of this show did anyone think it kinda rehabilitated Reagan a bit or am I just being an over reading into it goon? Having him see the handshake and immediately go and sign a treaty with Moscow makes it feel like he was good the whole time he just needed someone to show him the way or some poo poo. The Cold War we're seeing on the show is fairly different, so Reagan's politics would've been formed around that. Also his brain wasn't total sludge yet, which may have helped, may have not. The show did bring in Lee loving Atwater, and I think to a viewer who didn't catch the reference he was presented as a... Not very offensive political operative? Obviously the plot narrative juxtaposed this vile creature of a man offering something to Ellen, who was having a personal crisis due to being in the closet. You could read it either way, but since they name-dropped him it's fairly obvious they wanted people to catch the reference.
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Showing Lee Atwater and not having him be a racist piece of poo poo like he really was is a disservice.
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ixnay posted:They have a bunch of clips of alternate history news footage on the show page that go into the events a bit deeper: These are neat, and I didn't notice them before. Thanks.
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rip sam cleveland, he tried to open the hard rock cafe in space and died
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i genuinely appreciated the war between the script and the direction in this opening episode because, while the actors really try to sell how glamorous the space hotel is with their dialogue, every shot makes it look sterile, claustrophobia-inducing, bereft of entertainment, and extremely deadly
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This show is d&d liberal, wants most of the right things but doesn't know how to get there I'm not sure a cspam leftist show would be allowed to air but amerikkka would not exist in it much less billionaires
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Space travel like this doesn’t exist in our world it certainly wouldn’t exist in the c spam utopia
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This show is extremely good and I'm so happy it's back. Also, it looks better and a lot more expensive than Obi-Wan Kenobi lol.
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I was kinda hoping the hotel would blow up.
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lol that wedding dance song. Eat poo poo Karen. Overall it was a good episode.
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I dunno if I've said this before, but the show dunking on Karen and Ed is genuinely the funniest thing. They're both such massive arseholes, and then life turns around and repeatedly shits on them... Sometimes it's shockingly awful, like their kid dying, but mostly I just experience Schadenfreude. e.g. Ed in this episode, between getting into that dick measuring competition with Danielle, the toxic relationship with his hot but seemingly otherwise unsuited to him wife... that bit where she goes to chuck her shoe right at his head and it lands on the bed and they both do a comedy beat like they've missed their stage cues... it's just funny.
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teacup posted:Look the show will likely be nuanced on it anyway (aka not pure enough, up against the wall comrade) but I think if anyone was to walk away from the first episode and note notice the characters all being derogatory about private space flight and the very first episodes story being about private space flight literally killing people then idk what to say, it’s definitely not saying it’s da best All the main characters are die-hard NASA heads, of course they're not keen on private spaceflight. I very much suspect that the season will conclude with them becoming convinced that actually this private spaceflight thing might not be so bad after all (and the precocious techbros will be forced to admit that actually the old guard still know some tricks). I'm not really complaining, this show is about as left-wing as I can seriously expect a big budget TV show on this subject made by the world's first trillion dollar company to be. But those hoping for a total condemnation of Elon Musk are going to be disappointed, I suspect!
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Rappaport posted:Ed will hit him, with a cane Ed's broken hip will prevent him from leading the Nasa crew, so he'll get sad and then be offered cyborg/genetic upgrades, and lead the private spaceflight team. Robostronaut Ed!
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Now I'm just picturing this scene, with a despairing Ed clutching a dead Not-Elon, Ed understanding he will never get back into space without his cyborg bits. 
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Jun 13, 2022 14:47
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Episode 1: I was expecting way more casualties than two redshirts and some character I barely remember. The cables whipping around like coked up snakes culminating in one sneaking up Danny at the end was kinda funny in retrospect.
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Jun 13, 2022 14:48
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Solkanar512 posted:It feels like the signing of that treaty was a serious deescalation, and everyone is talking about Mars now anyway. The treaty was signed before the discovery of Helium-3 deposits, Moon is now the Middle East.
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Jun 13, 2022 19:25
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For All Mankind season 3: Come As You Ares
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Madurai posted:The treaty was signed before the discovery of Helium-3 deposits, Moon is now the Middle East. My buddy raised the point: what's going on in the actual Middle East during this timeline, now that fossil fuels have been depreciated? Or are they just not gonna touch that at all?
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Open Source Idiom posted:My buddy raised the point: what's going on in the actual Middle East during this timeline, now that fossil fuels have been depreciated? The first Gulf War didn't happen. They had a blurb about it.
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Spacebump posted:The first Gulf War didn't happen. They had a blurb about it. Or rather, it did happen, but consisted just of Iraq gobbling up Kuwait and nothing else.
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Madurai posted:Or rather, it did happen, but consisted just of Iraq gobbling up Kuwait and nothing else. Yup. They have a feature of news stories for each year between season. Iraq invaded Kuwait, President Gary Hart didn't want to act. Saudi Arabia got pissed, and with their own internal struggles with the oil market collapsing, they called off their relationship with the US.
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Gary Hart refused to send troops to Kuwait. Prices of oil dropped dramatically. See the 1991 Kuwait Invasion little video for the pseudo Rush take.
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So I’m no space engineer but that whole out of control booster poo poo is still bothering me. The fuel lines have to run from someplace. Like the drat booster wasn’t getting fuel from it self. They made a mention about the remote shutdown not working but gently caress just cut all the fuel to everything then deal with it in zero g. I get that it’s a show but god drat it’s irritating me lol
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MarcusSA posted:So I’m no space engineer but that whole out of control booster poo poo is still bothering me. Each thruster has its own nuclear fusion generator maybe.
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Silly Burrito posted:Each thruster has its own nuclear fusion generator maybe. Ok maybe! But they are on a pylon which you can’t tell me there isn’t an inside access point someplace. I love this show but sometimes it’s 
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MarcusSA posted:So I’m no space engineer but that whole out of control booster poo poo is still bothering me. but then the wedding would be ruined 
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The exchange of how to fix it was hilarious. "We have a big thruster stuck open, we can't cancel it with our other thrusters, eventually it's going to spin the ring so fast that the whole thing gets torn apart. We're going to send two guys out to try to shut off the fuel" "Can you wait until after the wedding to do that?"
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That was the most realistic part of the show right there.
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MarcusSA posted:That was the most realistic part of the show right there. That and not loading everyone into a shuttle as a precaution instead of waiting and seeing how the EVAs went.
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So Karen is pretty much hosed financially.
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Handsome Ralph posted:That and not loading everyone into a shuttle as a precaution instead of waiting and seeing how the EVAs went.
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:So Karen is pretty much hosed financially. maybe legally too. hope she goes to Space Prison
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:So Karen is pretty much hosed financially. Why do you say that? Didn't she just inherit like a billion dollars? bawfuls posted:Even just getting everyone to the center of the ring station would be a sufficient precaution while awaiting the EVAs. They'd be safe from increasing gravity and also already in position to evacuate quickly if needed. Yeah I was thinking this as well.
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:So Karen is pretty much hosed financially. As is the entire Space Hotel concept for at least a generation, unless there's some truly breathtaking spin control.
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Madurai posted:As is the entire Space Hotel concept for at least a generation, unless there's some truly breathtaking spin control. I think the hotel has already proven they're very bad at spin control
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Lol, “Ohio Senator Jerry Springer”. Glad to see that in this timeline someone taught him that cash is king when he was Mayor of Cincinnati.
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I saw a paper in the opening where the articles didn't match the headlines and it said "President Clinton." Sloppy work.
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