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Aren't Immortals a good choice for IH? It was either them or the termies that were near unkillable*.panascope posted:The Head of the Gorgon Rite of War looks very good, as it basically opens up a ton of options for your army while having a pretty limited drawback. You could consider a Mechanized Infantry swarm to capture objectives (consider your Gorgons in a Spartan), or a big mess of heavy tanks, like the new Kratos. On the other hand, Castellax are loving lovely, and you get them without the other ROW's requirement of a cortex controller per 3 robits. *From what I remember of HH 1.0 rules
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That table with the integrated trenches is amazing, love it every time when they're not just layered on top of the table. If it helps anyone, I chose my legion (DG) based on ease of painting, and then FORGED THE NARRATIVE about them being loyalists from some garrison where they got left because the praetor didn't love Morty enough. Also, I can't wait for militia rules, they're like the coolest non-Marine army. I made entirely too many BS 1K lists in HH 1.0.
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Lucinice posted:So with the big starter box they're releasing what else does someone need to run a decent HH army? I did the math and it's nearly 1500 out of the box before you add any upgrades, so get one of each of your legion's snowflake units and you can play at 2500.
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AnEdgelord posted:I like Sigismund and the Black Templars Btw, according to leaks, Siggy allows you to take Templar Brethren as (non compulsory?) Troops, and Templar Assault ROW forces you take Templars as compulsory troops. They also get the TacMarine bonus for camping objectives and Rage when disembarking.
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Lucinice posted:In terms of playstyle how do Iron Hands differ from Iron Warriors? According to leaks, IH are more about being real tough, while IW are good at destroying vehicles (and dreads) and buildings. Both of the IW rites give some boosts to vehicles, but they're not really vehicle-focused ROWs.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Is it 1500 per side in the box or all together? All together lol.
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The new BSF cultists are gonna be great once Militia books drops. Of course, going Wargame Atlantic would be cheaper, but their weapons lack the GW chonkiness and detail.
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What's a good cape color for DG? I did mine in green because I was real dumb a few years ago, apparently, and I'm not happy.
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goodness posted:Depends on the armor color but I did mine with red contrast. Mine are more white, but yeah, thanks for the input, goons. Also, weird how the SoH LA is... get hurt less for the turn you charged/got charged? Not very ganger wolfpack of them.
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Tiny Chalupa posted:Sons of Horus or Death Guard and WHY??? DG cos they're easy to paint. Mine are all white-ish, seraphim sepia, white-ish drybrush. Goons recommend Death World Forest over Loren Green for, er, green.
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I'd rather not play than play 40k. Tangentially related, what are the best/most widely used Epic rules for HH? We tried Imperium Dominatus recently and it's a bit wild.
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Tiny Chalupa posted:Epic Horus Heresy used the epicAU rules and some custom list that were incredibly balanced and very well done IMHO Yeah, I'm looking into EpicAU, thanks. Also: Fleshbane AND Get's Hot!
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BULBASAUR posted:Yeah, at least in our league traitors have always been more popular. 40k is more a story about the loyalists, so maybe its not a surprise that people want to explore the stories of the traitors. Their rise and fall is often more tragic and interesting, and in the Heresy they're full fledged legions rather than homogenous spiky boys My DG were always and will always be loyalists. My SoH were also meant to be that, but I got secret santa'd a Horus, and now I'm confused.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Speaking of the novels, What are the best three books in the Horus Heresy? I hear some people swear X is great, some people think X is actually bad; I'm a bit on the picky side when it comes to fiction but I liked Eisenhorn, and I figure if I get a cross section of what people think is the best of the best I can't go far wrong. People generally advise reading the first three books even if they're variable in quality, and then... First Heretic is probably the one I read the fastest, loving devoured it, and it's about those assholes Word Bearers. Master of Mankind is also fairly neat. Can't talk much about the rest except that anything by Graham McNeil will have the worst battle scenes known to man, just utter garbage.
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Preordered the bawx and swcs, and it all came in at under €200. This might actually be a better points-per-bux deal that BaC or BoP were. The FLGS guy is hella weird for not doing preorders. Oh, and people are talking about some Liber screenshots from GMG that suggest plastic Proteus and stuff.
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I think Justaerin are a kit for Cataphracti, so you're halfway there. Just add topknots and the color scheme.
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Afaik, not a peep yet about Shattered Legions, Blackshields, Militia, SoAux... Aside from references in ally rules and such.
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GreenMarine posted:I already have large World Eaters and Iron Warriors forces, so I think my next one will be loyalist. I can't decide between Blood Angels and Salamanders... Ah, the two nice Primarchs. Sallies probably play the most differently from your existing armies, and you don't have to paint red (a lot of people seem to complain about red), so there! Also, the Pyroclasts look fukken sick.
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According to the MKIV repack page, it's "arguably the most common" armor mark in Age of Darkness, so hence (or BaC) the helmets. ...or just stick them on whichever armor you want, a lot of them look fairly agnostic.
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Dunno about the first one. Standard compulsory is HQ+ 2 troops, and then idk how much of Elites, FA, HS... Troops are generally Tacticals (Bolters), Breachers (bolters, shields, SWCs), Assault Marines. I think these can fill compulsory slots - Recon, Scout and Tac Support can't. Some RoWs turn different units (snoflakes, vehicles) into troops and compulsory troops.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Are those special and heavy weapon sprues on pre-order meant to work with the Age of Darkness sprues? Yes, it's for MK6 armor and have hands molded on forward grips - ones for MK3 and MK4 would just slot into the open left palm.
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Jack B Nimble posted:I'm going to have a very hard time letting go of the concept of the core infantry foundation being a ten man tactical squad with one assault weapon, one heavy weapon, and one close combat Sargent. However, I'll do my best to try it. Yeah, as a bit of a milhist nerd, I can't bear all the "tacticals can deal with any situation" fluff when all they have are bolters. Should have gone all Ancient CSM with them by not only giving them options to go 20 man and/or full melee, but also put in a heavy or special weapon in there as well.
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AnEdgelord posted:HH roadmap On one hand, Militia won't get a book  On the other hand, Militia gets a PDF 
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Grave Wardens are still the only termies I care about 
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Tiny Chalupa posted:Same with the starer box marines. I can't do beaky Death Guard. That just looks and sounds dumb to me. Do loyalists that got saddled with the armor that the rest of the Legion hated 
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GW did more than than reprint, say, Deep Strike rules under every unit, but under different name. They also started doing that stupid thing "...a unit is considered to be in a teleporatarium. When a unit in a teleportarium..." Just two unnecessary lines of garbage.
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Great rule writing to put some models and stats into the army list, and some out of it.
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So I guess the exemplary battles units don't take much to convert to 2.0?
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Plus explanations can lead to dumb and bad places, see: everything to do with the Emperor's origins.
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Yeah, that was a fun, flavorful tradeoff.
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I think GW would like you to do 3-3.5k, but Goon-Approved Coolest Format Zone Mortalis is 1K. The box is 1500 before any unit upgrades.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Can you make a ZM board using the Hobbit hole hill terrain? Only if you're really cool AnEdgelord posted:Oh well, I used to write out army lists all the way back in 5th edition (even if I was too young and too poor to actually get together an army) so its not like I haven't done it before. At least I don't have to deal with all the weird detachment stuff of 9th edition and can just use the one Force Org chart. At least we now have google sheets to make the math easier.
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We know how it looks, just not why it was never produced Speaking of which, was it in the leaks?
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Broken Record Talk posted:Nope. It is totally dead. Man, I really loved the idea of a bunch of tacs or breachers and their dakkadeo buddy that gives them a shield.
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Beerdeer posted:In Heresy, squads all have the same guns like primaris do. If you build a sergeant or two and give everyone else bolters you'll be fine. Not all of them, but the biggest gun mixers are Vereran Tacticals. Recons and Seekers have specialist kit that's not for sale yet, and Breachers, well, need shields. But Tacticals, Tac Supper and Heavy support are monoweapon.
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Your tacticals are already there to mow down infantry, so meltas will crack vehicles and termies. Sure, you need to get close, but that's why you have the whole GANGS WOLFPACK AGGRESSION fluff
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Gato The Elder posted:Also, where do I find MK2 armor? Will GW/Forge World ever make it again? Are there third party parts that don’t suck? There's a good 3D print version out for free. Also, wargame exclusive now carries Tortuga stuff as well, so maybe they worked something out?
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