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AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Tiny Chalupa posted:

Yeah if someone could point us to the Loyalist rules it would be greatly appreciated :)

At least some of Legion traits and unique Reactions have been posted on Warhammer Community, might be worth putting these in the OP once they're finished up

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/16/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-the-space-wolves-are-the-best-boys-yes-they-are/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/17/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-plan-ahead-with-the-imperial-fists/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/13/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-the-white-scars-ride-like-the-wind/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/10/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-do-everything-amazingly-with-the-dark-angels/

Edit: Well since this is the top of a new page I might as well post the Traitor articles too

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/11/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-no-ones-perfect-except-the-emperors-children/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/18/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-the-night-lords-treat-every-day-like-its-halloween/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/12/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-break-down-walls-with-the-iron-warriors/

AnEdgelord fucked around with this message at 23:19 on May 18, 2022

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AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
I'm having a hard time settling on a Legion, I thought I wanted to play Night Lords but after reading the Night Lords trilogy they mostly just come off as pathetic losers whose main complaint about the Imperium is that is isn't fascist enough. Thats all well and good for a book but I'm not sure I want to play "the dishonorable guys who always lose" and it seems like you need to do some conversion work to really pull off their aesthetic (lots of flayed human skin and skull helms). After that I have sorta bounced between Imperial Fists and Word Bearers until I realized I don't actually like the Imperial Fists, I like Sigismund and the Black Templars which is a very different thing and it seems like half my local shop wants to play Word Bearers and I'd prefer to not have mirror matches all day. Right now I'm reading my way through the first part of the HH books for the first time and its actually pushing me towards Sons of Horus pretty hard. Getting to play as either Arch-Traitors with Horus or Loyalists with Lokan and pals seems like a huge plus too. Who knows how I'll feel by the time the box comes out though.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Blood Angels article for today with some of their rules
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/19/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-find-beauty-in-battle-with-the-blood-angels/

I didnt mention it in my other post but it seems like we're getting one of these per day

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
For the more melee focused legions, how much do they actually want the tactical marines from the starter box? It seems like they would be much more interested in some flavor of Assault Squad, and they would be in a game like 40k, but I don't know enough about the quirks and structure of 30k to know the answer to that question. I just don't want to commit to something like Night Lords, Space Wolves or Blood Angels if it means I'm gonna need to buy a bunch of a different type of troops to play them "correctly".

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Iron Hands are up today
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/20/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-the-iron-hands-are-hard-as-nails/

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
https://taleofpainters.com/2022/05/first-look-the-horus-heresy-age-of-darkness-launch-set-unboxing/

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Walkers as vehicles were almost universally terrible and were outshone by monstrous creatures at every turn. Turning them all into monstrous creatures is obviously the correct solution.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
If nothing else its probably gonna be super hard to get for a while if you dont get the initial preorder.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
An Alpha Legion tutorial from Vince

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55h4vPnQETM

I really like the look of the finished product

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/23/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-the-world-eaters-are-the-angriest-astartes-around/

World Eaters today

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Ultramarines
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/24/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-organise-the-ultramarines-into-an-unbeatable-force/

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/25/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-the-death-guard-trade-glory-for-guts-lots-of-guts/

Speaking of Death Guard

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
I think my Sons of Horus decision is sticking

-I loved them in the first three heresy books, so much so that Im a little disappointed to be away from their perspective in Flight of the Eisenstein
-They're good at basically everything so I dont have to be shoehorned into one playstyle
-Color scheme rules and the paint tutorial posted earlier in the thread makes it look so easy
-gently caress the Emperor

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Hey for some legions you get access to new commanders. Part of the reason I like the idea of SoH so much is that I can use Lokan if Im feeling loyalist-curious.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Buschmaki posted:

I NEED to see the Salamanders rules....

the legion rules are being previewed in legion number order so Salamanders will be Tuesday next week (provided they don't skip monday due to the holiday)

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Thousand Sons
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/26/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-the-thousand-sons-know-more-than-you/

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Now for the stars of the whole show, the Sons of Horus
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/27/legions-of-the-horus-heresy-the-sons-of-horus-are-the-real-first-legion/

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Looks like they added a new section to the GW webstore

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/The-Horus-Heresy

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
oh sweet, they're releasing the IF and SoH upgrade kits right away, rumors had them coming out in september

Now I don't have to choose between getting the army out faster or looking cooler

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
After playing my weekly AoS game at the local shop I talked about Horus Heresy with a guy in the shop who said that "reactions are cancer and they got to go" and complained about dreadnoughts being vulnerable to small arms fire now.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Endman posted:

What a loving baby brained sook

He also told me that "the new heresy edition is going to fail and all the old guard are going to buy the new set and laugh" and it took all of my restraint to keep from laughing in his face right in the middle of the shop

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

with a rebel yell she QQd posted:

Someone just sent me this. Yes in this quality...sorry about that.



This would corelate with the "less than 200 pounds".

Edit: Also exactly the same price as Ash Wastes.

I'm interested to see what the ameribucks price is because I thought they said "under $300" and Ash Wastes was $300

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Pinwiz11 posted:

Apologies if I missed it, but in which book(s) are the basic unit point costs/stats for the new version? I see all of the special unit details but nothing like "this is the standard Tactical Squad with wargear options and point costs".

Both the Liber Astartes and Hereticus have the generic Legiones Astartes armylist+the loyalist/traitor units

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Robert Facepalmer posted:

Transfer sheets and the MK3&4 boxes are direct only. The 20 man boxes are $80
Kratos tank is $125
Deimos is $47
Weapon boxes are $42
Books are $70
And the box is $299

Deimos is a little less than I thought it would be but the Books are a lot more than I thought they would be

Box is unfortunately right where I suspected it would be after people started talking about it being comparable to Ash Wastes

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
there are plenty of discount sellers here in the bad old US of A

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Yeah my intention right now is to pick up the big box, the legion book and potentially the SoH upgrade kit. Past that Im gonna wait for a bit.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Stephenls posted:

We're getting stand-alone dreadnought weapon upgrade boxes, aren't we?

I suspected as much when the plastic contemptor was revealed without a volkite option and volkite contemptors were still legal in 40k.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
On the other hand Im listening to the Fulgrim book and its been an absolute chore

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Improbable Lobster posted:

I think if the emperor had just come by and hugged horus a few times after he became warmaster the whole mess woulda been avoided

tbh he didn't even need to hug him, he just had to call him or send him a letter once a week

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Goonhammer reviews are up

https://www.goonhammer.com/the-horus-heresy-second-edition-core-rules-review/

https://www.goonhammer.com/liber-astartes-the-goonhammer-review/

https://www.goonhammer.com/the-liber-hereticus-review/

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Jack B Nimble posted:

Read the first article, extremely gratified to learn I won't be buying into a hobby right as a worse edition comes out.

I'm very curious as to how you think this upcoming edition is worse than the previous one

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

SpaceViking posted:

He's saying he's happy that the edition seems good.

I see it now, i'm dumb nvm

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Picking up the box and traitor book through my FLGS and getting 4 each of the SoH upgrade kits through FW

Heres hoping no one is gonna get mad at my using two of the sick sergeant head in my 20 man squads

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Jack B Nimble posted:

Should the new boxed set be up for preorder now? My FLGS owner seems to think not, but honestly he sometimes seems bizarrely unwilling to take my money and buy. the. thing.

Its on the GW website for preorder so I don't know what the hold up would be for the FLGS owner

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/horus-heresy-age-of-darkness-2022-eng

My store actually took preorders earlier this week just to make sure they got them all in in time

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Lotta stuff going out of stock already, including Horus

As far as my plans for the box I'm wondering how hard it would be to convert those cataphract terminators to justaerins, they don't look too different

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
HH roadmap

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/07/warhammer-the-horus-heresy-road-map-the-age-is-dark-but-the-futures-bright/

Liber Mechanicum and Liber Imperium officially announced

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Is there a good armybuilder app for the new edition out there? I can whip up a list with a calculator but it'd be a lot easier if I had a program that let me look at the list as I was building it.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Oh well, I used to write out army lists all the way back in 5th edition (even if I was too young and too poor to actually get together an army) so its not like I haven't done it before. At least I don't have to deal with all the weird detachment stuff of 9th edition and can just use the one Force Org chart.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
got my box, just need my forgeworld upgrade kits and I can start putting together these beakies

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AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

moths posted:

I'm building 30k scouts. Feels weird, but bayonets on bolters feels good.

What does a Nemesis Bolter look like? Is that the sniper variant?

Aren't nemesis bolters just loaded with a different type of ammo?

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