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Twenty Four


Trying posted:

like black Sabbath is the ur-example. It's good, but every criticism of it is still accurate. But it's good! But...

Like all the vocal lines are stupid and the lyrics were written by idiots. BUT

I guess if your measuring stick of a huge ton of good songs put out by one of, if not the founders of metal, is "just the lyrics" and consider every criticism reliant on that, then, sure I guess they were somewhat interesting and at least arguably dark for the time, but sometimes a bit goofy lyric wise especially in hindsight, but not in the worse way possible. I don't put as much value into lyrics compared to everything else, as a musician. There's certainly much better lyrics out there, so fair.

Everyone knows Ozzy. He's a legend, for better, or sometimes (many times) worse. I enjoy much of what he did or inspired or got carried through. He's a mess that has been nothing but a spectacle for decades, but I have enjoyed him, particularly in the past, so that's a fair "good yet bad" especially considering time frames.

Tony Iommi is much less famous in comparison but easily the next most known member for being able to shred, even with a prosthetic finger, and wright some great riffs and solos as well. Props to him for being an influence on my guitar playing. Obviously not "kinda good yet bad" by any metric.

Bill Ward is quite a good drummer but still under appreciated. He probably won't blow your mind compared to the best of the best, so I guess if that's the definition of "it's good but..." I can't argue with "but...". Definitely not bad though, and having seen all four of the main original members play live together despite being senior citizens years ago, he still had his chops and then some.

Geezer Butler is a hugely underrated bass player, partially because bass players in general tend to fly under the radar, and also because he was overshadowed by Ozzy and Iommi, his much more famous counterparts. He's got huge respect in the bass playing community, and was a huge influence on me when I was learning both bass and regular guitar, as was Iommi. The biggest "good but bad" think I can think of is he's good but it's bad he doesn't get the recognition he deserves outside of people who know how much of a badass he is.

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Twenty Four


Sorry for the rant, no hard feelings on my end! I guess for content... "kinda good yet bad"

"Most all fast food" lol. Sometimes really good and hits the spot so perfectly, exactly what you want, and sometimes really bad, but in reality most of the time "kinda good yet bad (for you)" :)

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