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ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

i knew an actual hacker in college who was very cavalier about his ability to break into the campus 2003 servers to gently caress with people he hated

he works in insurance and does a lot of coke now

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Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Does anyone remember Sub7 and tricking your friends to run it after sending it to them through ICQ so you could open their cd-rom drive remotely and other shenanigans?

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
The pool on the roof must have a leak.

Lifepuzzler
Nov 5, 2009

Zil posted:

Does anyone remember Sub7 and tricking your friends to run it after sending it to them through ICQ so you could open their cd-rom drive remotely and other shenanigans?

I sure do. It also had a "matrix" mode that blacked out their screen and opened a messaging session between both of you with green text.

UltraShame
Nov 6, 2006

Vocabulum.

I'm Crap posted:

that's literally what Hackers (1995) is

No. No Angelina Jolie, no Mr The Plague, no anyone else.

JUST Matthew Lillard.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag
https://i.imgur.com/exGVyKw.gifv

Mushika
Dec 22, 2010

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
I don't play well with others.

Bula Vinaka
Oct 21, 2020

beach side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkoqIlppfhc

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Oh no I'm late
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSDAAh6Lps4

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
Yak, yak, yak. Get a job!

bossy lady
Jul 9, 1983

:nws: probably

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAIYsB4Y_Dw

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Is this hacking?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maAFcEU6atk&t=10s

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

SAY YOHO
Oct 5, 2021
Sneakers is pretty decent IIRC.

Rahu
Feb 14, 2009


let me just check my figures real quick here
Grimey Drawer

Zil posted:

Does anyone remember Sub7 and tricking your friends to run it after sending it to them through ICQ so you could open their cd-rom drive remotely and other shenanigans?

I ran a cs server that had an addon to let me eject people's cd drives for a while.

Half-life had a few cd-related console commands because it had an interesting feature where if you had a music CD in the drive, whenever in-game music was supposed to play it would play a random track off the cd instead. This coupled with a mod that let servers run commands on the client = cupholder time.

e: I think it was this one.
http://www.adminmod.org/index.php?go=ascript/plugin-fun#4000000098

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib
I used to hack with some friends back around the millenium. We were young but we came up with some pretty smart ideas. We started out war driving with a USB GPS puck on the top of my friends car. I'd sit in the passenger seat and my 12in iBook would drop a marker at the best guess for each wifi network onto a detailed satellite photo map (way before google maps).

The map we had was government property, stolen from a file server on a badly secured wifi network for a local architect firm. To license that data from the state agency cost thousands in those days. We ended up with about 25 square miles of maps for local wifi points, with names and security details. It was like having our own municipal wifi service after a while. Whenever you needed a connection you just looked up the nearest open network. If reception was bad I had a USB wifi dongle that was duct taped onto the end of a 5m USB extension cord. You could swing it up into a tree or over a tall stone wall or whatever was blocking you.

After a while people started to lock down networks with WEP (WPA was somewhat uncommon). So we learned how to crack it. We had wifi cards with specific chipsets that excelled at flooding the WEP routers until they gave up enough data to calculate the key but this took time. At some point we figured out all the IP address ranges for the local broadband ISP. We set up a script to ping these addresses randomly over time (we were worried that we would create suspicious traffic if we just blitzed them numerically. What we found was a LOT of routers with default admin passwords and public config enabled.

Routers at this point almost all had a basic "backup settings" function, which was almost always just a text file of some sort - XML, YAML, plain, with all of the useful details ready for the taking. We matched the wifi names with the war-drived spreadsheet of access points and suddenly we had a lot of keys for previously locked networks. But that wasn't all, the local ISP set peoples broadband login credentials as their actual names by default like "robert.jones@ispname.net", and the password for the broadband was the same as the isp-provided email for that account.

So now we had filled in a whole bunch of our data and also gained an awful lot more new wifi networks but without locations. So we just used the phone book. The ISP was also the telco and published a paper phone book with your details including address unless you opted out, and most people didn't bother. So we could just look up "Jones, R." in the phone book and from the address manually add new pins to the war map.

The ISP was generally just hugely incompetent. Around this time they tried to prosecute some IT guys I knew for "hacking" their customer database. What had actually happened was while tooling around one of these guys found a server on the ISP network that was just a MySQL server open to the internet with default credentials. It was the working customer database of the ISP and they had hosed up big time. My friend called them up and tried to tell them about it but the ISP network guys didn't beleive him and shrugged it off. He went to his own customer record and changed his address to something like "No, your customer database is compromised you loving morons." and sent them an email to go take a look.

They went loving ballistic and my friends workplace was raided by the police, computers taken away, friend in handcuffs the whole 9 yards. It scared the poo poo out of him when he realised how little prepared the local police department was able to comprehend what had happened and he only narrowly escaped jail.

About that time it got scary for me and a friend too. Our local IP range surfing was still popping up regular hits and one day we got a really strange one. There was a port open on this commercial fixed IP, and if you connected to it you just got a blank terminal prompt, just a single ">".

It took a lot of loving about with guessing commands but we eventually figured out it was a dedicated VPN box sitting in a local office, connecting them to a network somewhere foreign. The box had been left in the default config state for some reason and had not been locked down on the internet side, which is the entire loving point of a VPN box. So we started probing around and I tried connecting into the network that it was connecting to.

It was a bank. A really, really big bank. I nearly shat myself. After making sure the box hadn't logged my access I disconnected and took a break from making GBS threads in my own back yard.

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug
Hell, same!

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

SAY YOHO posted:

Sneakers is pretty decent IIRC.

Hackers, that travesty of a movie demonstrates how a "shared secret" works which is how many secure protocols work; from TLS to Bluetooth to Wifi.

When Douce 1 tells Douce 2 on the phone the malicious data is "in that one place we know" they are communicating secure data without it being clear. It's a shared secret.

Instead of having to do a long reauthorization each time you change the page both server and client can just ask each other if they want to still use that secret key they know about without revealing the secret key.

But that was wordy. gently caress that Hackers movie.

Bula Vinaka
Oct 21, 2020

beach side

That's S tier hacking.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018


whats gui

is it like bussy

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]
graphical user interface so if you change all your icons and images to computer pussy it will indeed be your compussy

MakaVillian
Aug 16, 2003

Well, in Whoville they say - that his tiny hands grew three sizes that day.


Fuckin Xander, always a goddamn nerd

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?

Zil posted:

Does anyone remember Sub7 and tricking your friends to run it after sending it to them through ICQ so you could open their cd-rom drive remotely and other shenanigans?

Ya I tried to put it on as many computers in the computer lab as possible, and one day I sat behind a kid and he was freaking out cus I kept opening the CD tray :xd:

Bula Vinaka
Oct 21, 2020

beach side

Actually that's not a hacker cat, it's a shitposting cat.

https://i.imgur.com/yIRT7LA.mp4

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?

The movie's twist on the 90's trite style actually holds up, pretty well.

lil bip
Mar 13, 2004

That ain't workin', that's the way you do it

Zil posted:

Does anyone remember Sub7 and tricking your friends to run it after sending it to them through ICQ so you could open their cd-rom drive remotely and other shenanigans?

Yes, I did this ( and had it done to me ). Good times!

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?
this is the better hackers thread frankly

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

2008 YOSPOS found the worlds worst botnet

a poster sneaked in some code that would pop up a pic of Bill Cosby (remember, in 2008, before it was widely known that he is serial rapist), take a screenshot, and phone home.

it was mostly, dumb peoples ugly desktop backgrounds, but then it returned with this:



then Cidrick shut it all down.

Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth

axolotl farmer posted:

2008 YOSPOS found the worlds worst botnet

a poster sneaked in some code that would pop up a pic of Bill Cosby (remember, in 2008, before it was widely known that he is serial rapist), take a screenshot, and phone home.

it was mostly, dumb peoples ugly desktop backgrounds, but then it returned with this:

then Cidrick shut it all down.

Let's be honest, taking a snapshot of someone's porn stash was probably the real reason a poster created the code in the first place.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
lol @ kapersky's "I'm helping! :)"

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Zil posted:

Does anyone remember Sub7 and tricking your friends to run it after sending it to them through ICQ so you could open their cd-rom drive remotely and other shenanigans?

you shoud use silkrope to attach it to another .exe and then a .exe compressor to hide it from their antivirus

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


poverty goat posted:

you shoud use silkrope to attach it to another .exe and then a .exe compressor to hide it from their antivirus

These were the days when not everyone had antivirus software running, so it was really easy to get into people's systems.

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Zil posted:

These were the days when not everyone had antivirus software running, so it was really easy to get into people's systems.

the antivirus was also really stupid though

as for how easy it was to get into peoples' systems... this was me https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/kwbot-worm-hits-kazaa/

it had thousands of infections and became totally unmanageable within like 3 days

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Nefarious 2.0 posted:

if you didn't get severely horned up when you saw angelina jolie in hackers your heart is not pumping blood

Absolutely

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?
Peoples' PCs were way less important back then too. I found a public IRC channel where they would post sub7 phone-home logins, and every computer was so uninteresting that you'd barely ever find anything novel, letalone of value.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

poverty goat posted:

the antivirus was also really stupid though

as for how easy it was to get into peoples' systems... this was me https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/kwbot-worm-hits-kazaa/

it had thousands of infections and became totally unmanageable within like 3 days
I hosed up my windows install so bad at one point that when I caught some virus off a kazaa download the virus started throwing errors

url
Apr 23, 2007

internet gnuru
This isn't any of that Hollywood malarkyancy pants stuff ...

This was the broadcast of the national broadcaster suffering a 'live hack' on air.

Things were so quaint back then.

https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/9ak7w5/as-seen-on-tv-when-hackers-hacked-a-bbc-computer-live-in-1983

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Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Me hacking a Gibson





I flew on a Qatar Airways flight last year and they had Hackers on the entertainment server so I watched it. It was a very hacked (heh) version of the film that surprised me so much I made notes on what it had removed. poo poo like Cereal Killer trying to flog his 'greatest zooks' album featuring singers that died by asphyxiating on their own vomit, all reference to god EXCEPT the one at the end when Cereal gives his worldwide broadcast, Joey's rear end in the scene he gets busted by the feds in the shower...

Oh and the line "look at that pooper, man. Spandex. It's a privilege, not a right"

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 22:35 on May 30, 2022

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