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Endless Mike posted:Thanks for this thread! I have a lot of memories of Wizard, and they probably mirror yours pretty closely, though I didn't have anywhere near this collection. Since I'm not doing anything, I've decided I'm going to do a thing along with this: Haha, I was doing this too. There's definitely some books that I see that I know still have value (X-Men 266 is still a great pick) but others where I was looking at it like "does anyone still care about this?" and turns out most of the time, NOPE! This is an awesome thread full of awesome memories.
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The print runs on those comics in that era were ridiculous, I think the only reason why some of those books retained their value was either due to artificial scarcity (the platinum Spider-Man issue that was a retailer incentive if they ordered a poo poo load of the regular book) or books that were under the radar and “only” had a print run in the 10s of thousands instead of 100,000.
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:I don't think I knew anything about Morrison at the time, and so for years this picture from the JLA special was the image of them that came to mind: Morrison's not bald yet!!
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ruddiger posted:The print runs on those comics in that era were ridiculous, I think the only reason why some of those books retained their value was either due to artificial scarcity (the platinum Spider-Man issue that was a retailer incentive if they ordered a poo poo load of the regular book) or books that were under the radar and “only” had a print run in the 10s of thousands instead of 100,000. Anyway, to finish off the issues X-O has posted: Wizard's Top 10: Where Are They Now?? These were the hottest books as determined by Wizard Magazine, so they must still be very valuable, right? Let's see what Ebay in 2022 has to say about that! Issue 5, January 1992 #8: Uncanny X-Men #201 (Wilce Portacio's first work on an X-Book, first appearance of Baby Cable (though this was only speculation at the time)....and Wizard covered it last month  ): Price range heavily depending on condition - I'm seeing anywhere from $8 in a lot to $39 on its own. Average around $15. Gonna call this one a mediocre pick.#10: Uncanny X-Men #266 (it not Wizard, it Gambit): Unslabbed copies are around $150 and slabbed 9+ can reach double that. Great pick by Wizard here Issue 6, February 1992 ALL MUTANTS ALL THE TIME! Nothing new on this list at all. Couldn't even find a Valiant book or something to push smh Issue 7, March 1992 Actually I said "No, MORE mutants!" #8: Uncanny X-Men #268 (Jim Lee's first issue as "regular" artist. And Captain America, who was definitely popping sales in 1992): I can't really get a handle on this. I'm seeing sold prices anywhere from $4.50 up $43 unslabbed. Slabbed copies are similarly all over the place. We'll call this a good pick. Once again, everything else is X-books we've seen before Lol that the magazine gave Flash, a character with decades of history about 2.5 times the writing (and only twice the pages) of X-O Manowar who had less than a year. Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Jun 15, 2022 |
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Jun 9, 2022 14:29
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Wizard Magazine Issue #8 April 1992 Cover  Contents   Wizard News  Bishop The Future's Hottest X-Man (Nope.)  Article of Note         Article of Note    Article of Note    Fan Art!     The Top 10   Random Ads   
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Jun 9, 2022 16:48
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Endless Mike I will not hesitate to stare at your post in disgust if you call my boy Darkhawk's book a bad investment choice. Someday!
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Jun 9, 2022 16:54
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X-O posted:Endless Mike I will not hesitate to stare at your post in disgust if you call my boy Darkhawk's book a bad investment choice. Someday! Also I think Bishop has about eight months of publishing history at the time this issue came out. Uncanny #282 had a cover date of November 1991, which means it came out a couple months earlier. He *may* have shot a pie by this point.
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Jun 9, 2022 17:02
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Cripes, I'd completely forgotten Sarah Byam. I may still have those Black Canary books in a box somewhere.
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Jun 9, 2022 17:10
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Wizard Magazine Issue #9 May 1992 Cover  Contents   Wizard News Holy poo poo look at those Marvel 2093 designs! Also 2093? C'mon. Thank goodness someone had the balls to push it up six years.     Venom    Article of Note This is the one that is very "of Note" as this article set things in motion that would make Wizard a must read for years.          Article of Note      Article of Note      Fan Art!     The Top 10   Random Ads    
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Jun 9, 2022 17:30
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Insane to think that Wizard actually pre-dates Image Comics.
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Jun 9, 2022 17:32
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Splint Chesthair posted:Insane to think that Wizard actually pre-dates Image Comics. It's interesting to think of whether Image Comics would have succeeded without Wizard. Because however hard Wizard is shilling for Valiant in the previous write-ups, they raise the loving bar beyond the moon as soon as they see Image. I mean, yeah, it probably would have been fine because of the talent involved, but Wizard definitely had a hand in the hype. I remember them endlessly fawning over that one ultra-delayed Image comic (Wetworks?) for literal years before it came out. Also, I forgot that Image was originally a Malibu imprint,
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:It's interesting to think of whether Image Comics would have succeeded without Wizard. Because however hard Wizard is shilling for Valiant in the previous write-ups, they raise the loving bar beyond the moon as soon as they see Image. I mean, yeah, it probably would have been fine because of the talent involved, but Wizard definitely had a hand in the hype. I remember them endlessly fawning over that one ultra-delayed Image comic (Wetworks?) for literal years before it came out. EDIT: Previously I had written a joke about Wetworks being infinitely delayed and now having actually done a search and seeing why I feel sorry I joked about it. Real life issues take precedent over comic books and what happened is a sad and very relatable story. I wouldn't have wanted to work on comic books at the time either. X-O fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Jun 9, 2022 |
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Jun 9, 2022 17:43
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X-O posted:Venom
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Jun 9, 2022 20:14
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Wizard Magazine Issue #10 June 1992 Cover  Contents   Wizard News      Youngblood  Cable    Article of Note        Article of Note    Article of Note     Article of Note     Brutes and Babes Learn to draw! Kind of.   Fan Art!     Gratuitous Nonsense That Probably Shouldn't Be Posted.  Top 10 Heroes and Villains   The Top 10   Random Ads   
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Jun 10, 2022 00:04
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I'm actually shocked they didn't pick New Mutants #98 as a hot comic in a month where Deadpool is on the cover. Also LMFAO at ultra-buff Booster. Are you planning to post the full scans anywhere? I may have missed that.
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Jun 10, 2022 00:12
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That’s the first issue I have in my collection! And awesome ad for the great Heroescon! They haven’t changed the logo in 30 years!
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Jun 10, 2022 00:12
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In my opinion this was the first issue that really felt like it had the formula of the Wizard I knew and remembered. It's still a work in progress but the framework is showing in this issue.
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Jun 10, 2022 00:23
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'Robin III on the way!' Don't you threaten me. 
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Jun 10, 2022 00:58
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I had totally forgotten about Wizard until seeing this thread and, for some reason, it made me instantly nostalgic for pre-internet comic book stores.
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Jun 10, 2022 15:03
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Wizard Magazine Issue #11 July 1992 (This is one of the least noteworthy issues for me. No really good articles at all.) Cover  Contents   Wizard News     Spawn  Spider-Man   Article of Note       Brutes and Babes   Fan Art!      Gratuitous Nonsense That Probably Shouldn't Be Posted.  Top 10 Heroes and Villains   The Top 10   Random Ads    
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Jun 10, 2022 16:52
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Seeing that news item about Adventure Comics’ The Bat made me very curious about it. The first issue even says on the cover: “One of the original sources that inspired BATMAN!” There was only one issue, wonder why…
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Jun 10, 2022 21:29
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The Toddster posted:"To tell you the truth, because of the success that I have gotten, I've got more sympathy to the people that are in a successful position." And that's why Image doesn't have a union.
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Jun 10, 2022 21:46
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X-O posted:Wizard Magazine Issue #11 July 1992 (This is one of the least noteworthy issues for me. No really good articles at all.) Could the young Jason Bone in the fan-art section possibly be J. Bone, the Canadian cartoonist most recently of the DC Pride Special's Kevin Conroy story? 18 in 1992 feels a little old but it would be neat. Edit: I've gone ahead and shot him an e-mail-- hopefully I'll hear back with some confirmation or denial! How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jun 10, 2022 |
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Jun 10, 2022 22:25
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I’m sure most of you guys know but the Cartoonist Kayfabe boys started off their YouTube channel doing flip throughs of Wizard Magazine. I think they’re up to issue 40, but they started flipping through actual comics and art books as they found the Wizard content really sparse and lacking. It’s a great channel and the Wizard flip throughs are full of comic insider stuff since they’re both working professionals in the comic book field. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf8lIJMKRos
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How Wonderful! posted:Could the young Jason Bone in the fan-art section possibly be J. Bone, the Canadian cartoonist most recently of the DC Pride Special's Kevin Conroy story? 18 in 1992 feels a little old but it would be neat. He got back to me super quickly! 
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That’s awesome!!!
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That is super awesome yeah. I wouldn't doubt there's more as well buried in there or in the letter pages. I should probably start posting those too.
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That's awesome! I was actually thinking while looking through the fan art galleries when we'd see our first future artist! Looks like that's been answered. Wizard's Top 10: Where Are They Now?? These were the hottest books as determined by Wizard Magazine, so they must still be very valuable, right? Let's see what Ebay in 2022 has to say about that! Issue 8, March 1992 #9: Ghost Rider #1 (first appearance of Dan Ketch Ghost Rider AND Deathwatch!): This is a weird one. There's unslabbed sales ranging from $32-50, and slabbed from $32 to $350 based on condition. This was a pretty good pick! #10: Darkhawk #1 (first appearance of Darkhawk): $18-20 unslabbed, high-graded slabbed around $300. Obviously a great pick given all the incredibly memorable Darkhawk stories it led to Issue 9, May 1992 #9: Amazing Spider-Man #361 (first full appearance of Carnage): Unslabbed are ranging from $50-100, with slabbed ones running anywhere from $250-550 depending on condition. This is unsurprisingly a great pick from Wizard Issue 10, June 1992 #8: Amazing Spider-Man #362 (Carnage....again): Ranges anywhere from $12-25 unslabbed, slabbed copies rarely sell, though a 9.8 got $375.  #9: Harbinger #1 (start of a new series - I think the characters may have technically first appeared elsewhere as this is part of the Unity crossover): There's literally no sales, and hardly any listings. A slabbed 9.4 failed to sell at $70. Gonna call this one QUARTER BIN FODDER Issue 11, July 1992 #7: Spectacular Spider-Man #189 (it has a cool hologram cover  ): Lots of listings, hardly any sales, all single-digit dollars. Slabbed copies are running less than the cost of grading. QUARTER BIN FODDER#8: Unity #0 (start of Valiant's first crossover): $1. Unsurprisingly, Valiant is QUARTER BIN FODDER in 2022
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Harbingers #1 selling for pocket change now feels a little like vindication. A lot of comic stores don't carry it because of the print run, which is not the same as not having it because people want it.
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Jun 11, 2022 15:21
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I am amazed at how popular Lobo was, judging by the fan art section
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Lobo was pretty big, it was the violent edgy style that was popular back then but always satirical of that too so people that didn't like that stuff could potentially enjoy it too. I still have the colorform cover of the Lobo vs. Superman issue from back then somewhere.
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I completely ignored DC at the time. Even when came back to comics after colllege it was only Vertigo books all the day until One Year Later when I started reading a whole bunch, only to fall off again when Azzarello left Wonder Woman, which was the last of the nu52 I was reading that hadn't been canceled yet.
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We haven't hit any of the issues my brother got, but it's still interesting looking back at this. The Top 10 comics seem to essentially be all X-Men or X-Men related things (with the occasional oddball like Darkhawk and Robin), and so far the Top 10 Heroes/Villains has been all Marvel. I guess it makes sense, a lot of the popularity was probably due to the X-Men cartoon, and I'm not sure but I feel like DC was probably struggling here a little bit? Especially since Marvel (and a few other new comic companies) are filled with edgy/violent heroes/anti-heroes and outside of Batman, I imagine DC at this point with its more traditional heroic superheroes was seen as too kiddy or uninteresting. Also I'm curious where they got the whole "Deep Space Nine will take place 100 years after TNG" thing in that one article, because as far as I know that comes from absolutely nowhere.
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I remember Shi, mainly because of what it was infamous for. This thread has been an nostalgic trip. Thank you.
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TV Zombie posted:I remember Shi, mainly because of what it was infamous for. What was that? I just remember it being Yet Another 'bad girl' comic. Also fun fact, at my comic store we had an entire box of the Shi/Cyblade comic.
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Wizard Magazine Issue #12 August 1992 Cover  Contents   Wizard News   WildC.A.T.S.   Article of Note        Article of Note    Article of Note     Article of Note    Brutes and Babes   Fan Art!      Top 10 Heroes and Villains   The Top 10   Random Ads   
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Yay, that's the one. And now I remember that I bought it specifically for the Batman: TAS article, because I was a much bigger cartoon nerd than comics fan.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Yay, that's the one. That article even has Tim Curry still tapped to play Joker.
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Dawgstar posted:What was that? I just remember it being Yet Another 'bad girl' comic. Also fun fact, at my comic store we had an entire box of the Shi/Cyblade comic. I think it was purported to be the first comic with a female nude character in it, from a major comic publishing company or at least that’s how I remembered it.
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Huh, I think this may have been my first issue, too. I definitely recognize the cover. Anyway, a couple notes: I'm delcaring August as Image Month in BSS. We will talk about the cool Image comics like WildCATs, Youngblood, and CyberForce. I'm really curious who Jim Lee and the editor (was it Harras at this point?) decided the X-Men's traitor was. Obviously that didn't get resolved for another several years. I don't think I knew Tim Curry was tapped for the Joker. I'm looking forward to when fan art changes to envelope art (when they start having the Q&A's). I'm glad they used Wolverine's most iconic costume for his appearance in the top 10.
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