UKMT Summer 2022 - The Pipes, The Pipes Are Empty

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Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

It's not the loving parties you loving asswipe, it's the continual lying and cheating.

Someone (on twitter I think) made the point the other day that even if you ignore the lying, the hypocrisy, the rulebreaking and the appeals to decency; the day of the parties, Boris was at several meetings with senior staff, including the deputy PM. If covid had been present, it could have taken out the entirety of the senior staff in charge of the country in the middle of (2? 3?) national emergencies.

Now obviously from our perspective that'd be good and hilarious, but if people want to contextualise the stupidity of the rulebreaking, that'd be a better line to take.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2022 16:09

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 18:33

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

I guess it'd be fair to say they're hotels for people who literally just need a roof over their head for the night, if they didn't price the rooms not much lower than a regular travelodge / airbnb room.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2022 16:34

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

crispix posted:

oh okay

probably my interpretation was going on her late husband's many remarks that could very well have attracted penalties for hate crimes rather than heart warming chortles had anyone else made them

I was going more by David Jason's classic 'look across at the black guy before saying it' move.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2022 15:02

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

OwlFancier posted:

She is absolutely right though, everyone who transitions and ends up happy, better off for it, renders their "sane world" an ever more obvious farce. Their whole worldview is completely dependent on hegemony, not allowing any other way of being, not allowing people the words and framework to even conceptualize an alternative.

It's almost as if their ideology rejects modernity and embraces tradition, and is willing to unperson anyone who challenges it.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2022 13:23

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

https://twitter.com/LeGateauChoc/status/1532115526843088896?t=VnXvHBFfOk8GL5JIooQ8aw&s=19

Good morning to comrade Stacey Solomon and comrade Stacey Solomon only.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2022 15:08

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

fuctifino posted:

https://twitter.com/Helen121/status/1532954974547808261

Watch that little loving rat whip to abstain.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2022 12:16

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

lmao gottein

# ¿ Jun 4, 2022 19:38

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

I mean, if you crush and humiliate a nation the only way of doing that under neoliberalism is economically, and also under neoliberalism you can't punish the rich people, so it would just lead to the poorest civilians getting absolutely hosed.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2022 15:14

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Rustybear posted:

there will be a negotiated peace with concessions to both sides at some point, you do get that right?

That's the exact problem. Assuming Putin hasn't gone ethnonationalist crazy and completely disconnected from reality (the former likely, the play here is to threaten to take all of Ukraine and then fall back during peace negotiations to "Oh alright, we'll leave if you give us the Donbas and promise to never join NATO." Then when the Ukraine refuses they can say they tried to be reasonable but Zelenskyy refused to concede (things that he wouldn't have had to concede if Russia hadn't invaded).

# ¿ Jun 5, 2022 19:05

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

The deal is that if you dun like it, theres the fackin door.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2022 01:32

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Rustybear posted:

if he does go this'll be the third successive tory administration that couldn't make it to the three year mark; incredible statistic.

they quite literally cannot physically occupy the offices of state long enough to maintain a functioning government.

Feel like that's by design though. Normally the election cycle is that the conservatives get in, act like shits, sell everything off, and then labour swoop in as the 'good' guys, being all sensible and responsible, only to turn out to be just as poo poo (because even if the money goes toward paying off the tories national debt, it's still austerity and they haven't really fixed anything), and then the conservatives get in promising they're different guys and it's fine now.

What they've managed to do is remove labour from that loop by loading all the bad stuff onto one conservative and then firing them, shunting the loop straight to the 'we're different guys now' step, and it would be wrong to have an election during [insert tory manufactured crisis, or if they're lucky an actual one like ukraine], and the important thing is that the press and public have such nonexistent memories, they not only buy it but agressively sell it in the deluded belief that this is how we get back to a point where politics happens in the background and they don't have to pay any attention to it.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2022 15:52

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Hilarity timeline - Boris gets vonced, hits the self destruct button by calling a GE, ken gets fined by durham police and resigns, andy burnham somehow becomes leader by accident, conservatives are left with a ge to win and a not entirely poo poo opposition. Putin nukes the uk and it turns out it was all for nowt anyway.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2022 16:14

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

As the nuclear bombs hit and Slough is annihilated, Morrissey sits back in his chair and thumbs the remote. "Yes." He says quietly to himself. "Yes."

# ¿ Jun 6, 2022 17:46

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

I can't wait to find out how they absolutely fail to get rid of that loving parasite this time.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2022 18:12

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

did we put a bangin vonc on it yet

# ¿ Jun 6, 2022 19:47

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

New pitch for a netflix show: An ironic brooker / iannuci style examination of the events that led to our current political situation. Beginning with the shot of Cameron walking away from the podium humming and ending with... Well, this. Led by a former labour leader the show would break down exactly what's wrong and exactly how it's not only the tories fault, but the fault of the individual members of parliament as well as the ideology they represent.

We could call it "Chaos, with Ed Milliband."

# ¿ Jun 7, 2022 14:41

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

https://twitter.com/1JacketRequired/status/1534143179800432644?t=iv0KR_0A7lBi3PwrKlYQ8Q&s=19

# ¿ Jun 7, 2022 15:27

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Donkey Kong was deported for saying trans rights, these days.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2022 18:25

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Mebh posted:

On the subject of NHS privatisation. In most tech jobs it seems private healthcare is now standard here in the UK. I read somewhere that private spending in the UK was pretty much up with the US now per capita. Can't find the source though.

My company gave everyone BUPA with no pre existing conditions disqualification last month. Has anyone else noticed the shift happening too?

I know 10, 15 years ago centrica had my Dad's knees sorted privately, mostly because if they didn't he'd have been signed off until they were done and the waiting list was over a year. He had the whole consultation & surgery process done in less than 2 months.

Another nurse I worked with in the NHS said how she called orthapedic services in February to try and arrange shoulder surgery, and they were talking about late July. When she said she thought it'd be faster since she was private they immediately offered her a slot in early March.

Two other things I learned working for the NHS:

Firstly, it's usually the same consultants. A lot of the senior consultants in ours were only bookable for one or two NHS slots a day, the rest of it was private work. Most surgery is done on NHS grounds, by NHS consultants, you're just paying to skip the queue and then recover in a nicer room.

Secondly, the NHS does not, on the face of it, have a mechanism to put donations back into buying equipment. This might just have been a bit of rule bending by the pathology department I worked for, but the money we were given from private patients and travel agents sending people to get vacation jabs went into a fund for our xmas bonus / nights out. Not to funding new equipment, not to upgrading the facilities - according to the senior consultant's secretary, there are rules stopping the NHS from making a profit. It wouldn't surprise me. Our trust got a new CEO while I was there and it was all business bullshit about making departments compete with each other to make the NHS more 'dynamic' when all it led to was patients getting bounced around as department after department shrugged and claimed it wasn't their problem.

The NHS was having its back stretched slowly on the rack by Blairite idiocy long ago, but this swingeing new round is designed to break its back so private capital can swoop in and 'save' it. And it's going to be an absolute disaster.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2022 20:05

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Guavanaut posted:

I once saw a GP go on Wikipedia to look up contraindications for something he was about to prescribe. I know information's information and part of the qualification should be able to filter obvious lies and it might be more up to date than some 2kg textbook if you also read the citations but there's something off-putting about going to the Free Encyclopedia That Horse Paste Eaters Can Edit for that specifically. At least do an internal NHS branded one (I'll set up the wiki).

Even more worrying is how often wikis are edited by corporate concerns to hide negative info or research on their products. For example, there is at the moment a lot online downplaying the link between ibuprofen and certain kinds of asthma, which is incredibly dangerous for people for whom it is a trigger, but obviously good for companies who want to keep selling ibuprofen by the bucketload because everyone is overworked and inflamed.

The amount of GPs I've been to who've straight up recommended I take ibuprofen for something, and then given me a blank look when I've pointed out I have asthma. It's all the more worrying because don't they even have time to glance at history before appointments now?

# ¿ Jun 8, 2022 12:20

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

^^^ or just building the cost of getting sued into the process.

The second Starmer is near power he will be surrounded by lobbyists and dickheads who will easily convince him that continuing privatisation of the NHS is a good thing, because he has no beliefs or political nous except that which will keep him in what he sees as the in-crowd. And when the in crowd is Streeting & Phillips, we're not even going to see Tory lite, it's just going to be Tory.

# ¿ Jun 8, 2022 13:09

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Necrothatcher posted:

feels weird to be on the same page as the average British voter:

https://twitter.com/jamesjohnson252/status/1534829739474567169?s=20&t=lPoiSw-SM0YV79AcGKe7Kw

Honestly I don't trust Starmer because he gives off middle management vibes. Every working class person has had a small minded prick like that make their life hell, either with passive-agressive harrassment or constantly implementing whatever management fad is going round at the moment.

E: video snipe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVuC4a5pLwY

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Jun 9, 2022

# ¿ Jun 9, 2022 16:14

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Kegluneq posted:

https://twitter.com/BBCSounds/status/1534999120452149248?t=R8r1tvnC4db4q_5YbQ_Eog&s=19

"... and all my opinions, which are just off camera, you can't see them.'"

# ¿ Jun 10, 2022 15:17

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Security for loser starmer.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2022 09:03

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

SixFigureSandwich posted:

It's still funny that every time the Tories bring up the NI protocol and how terrible they think it is, someone goes 'wait didn't you guys negotiate and sign this'

That's very much an 'ah no, that was the other guys' situation. Sort of like when a company commits horrible crimes, fires the CEO and says the matter is closed. Even though they're happy to be considered the same legal entity when it suits them.

forkboy84 posted:

Watch number go down while you wait. It's satisfying. Bitcoin has dropped below $23000, that's $8k in 2 weeks. Down from $68000 since December lol

Hey, good thing we don't have an idiot for a chancellor trying to tie crypto to the economy.

https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1510988474215772162?t=geVhotTZO_m__5k-7jWBWA&s=19

Ah. Nevertheless.

# ¿ Jun 13, 2022 16:28

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Honestly I think ThomasPaine is closest to the truth up there. People like tweetman spent their entire lives being fed right wing talking points by people pretending to be moderates their entire lives, to the point that they can no longer tell what's a sensible moderate opinion and what's a right wing talking point.

# ¿ Jun 13, 2022 17:17

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

That's bad unless you have actually changed your name to Alan.

# ¿ Jun 13, 2022 21:10

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Just did some quick maffs, pretty sure I calculated something wrong but I am tired of these bellends.

https://twitter.com/rantingauthor/status/1536457649188904969?t=v2oZUZ574LPmUvUuATFV4A&s=19

# ¿ Jun 13, 2022 22:19

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Everything's fine.

https://twitter.com/SocialistWest/status/1536391600552693761?t=KdDvwWvz9CQfMJCN-7xQSw&s=19

# ¿ Jun 14, 2022 03:42

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

bessantj posted:

Should be classed as an emergency. I don't know how dentistry isn't connected to the NHS more. There's no dentist near me accepting NHS patients either.

Apocryphally the only reason dentistry is seperate is because at the time the NHS was formalised the dentists pitched a fit and actually had the power to stop the whole thing happening somehow. So they wrre excluded from the deal. Why the NHS didn't take it over once they got powerful enough is a mystery probably answered by there never being an honest enough PM after that point.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2022 19:22

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

fuctifino posted:

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1537052106305175552

Lol. I was totally unaware of the family legacy with the ECHR.

I always get European Court of Human Rights mixed up with the poo poo tory ethics thing that wrote the report about Labour antisemitism, which is this?

OwlFancier posted:

If ever we live long enough to be put into nursing homes this is what it's going to be like.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2022 00:28

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Tesseraction posted:

A policy laser targeted to piss off the worst people in society.

What on earth is the government thinking?

My growing theory is that the tories know the country is absolutely hosed, they know they've destroyed everything and they're deeply unpopular, and they just don't want to be there to deal with the aftermath. So they have a twofold goal:

1) goad the public into voting them out so they can sit in comfortable opposition seats blaming labour for everything,

2) while they're waiting, take the opportunity to do all the nightmarish poo poo they wouldn't be able to get away with if they had to care about staying in power

The problem is that 1 hasn't worked because it turns out the consent manufacturing juggernaut they created has turned the public into utter cunts who think 2 is good actually, and if you dun like it, 'eres the fackin door.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2022 11:56

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

You're making the basic error of assuming Boris has read literally anything about steel, international trade agreements, or politics before making his decision.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2022 13:31

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Tesseraction posted:

Well at least this wasn't in that Times report on the state of kids in school https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1537431393629659137

thatcher: we are going to take the kids milk away

alaska: hold my floor cleaner

# ¿ Jun 16, 2022 16:49

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Whatever law comes in landlords will find a way to abuse it. Looking forward to landlords privately running your right-to-buy mortgage via a bitcoin app, only to boot you out at the last legally allowable moment and confiscate the money because you got blutack on the table or whatever.

Of course you can always take them to court to get your money back if they were in the wrong! What do you mean we slashed legal aid and you're too poor for representation? Shouldn't have been getting uppity and trying to buy a house, should you?

# ¿ Jun 16, 2022 17:13

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Brendan Rodgers posted:

People say fashion is cyclical but where are my gargoyles

tech gargoyles created by the wonders of startup capital, but it turns out they never perfected the casting process so it's just kids from the Philippines paid to sit on the corners of buildings covered in plaster.

Somehow valued at 52 trillion dollars.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2022 19:13

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

https://twitter.com/ThatRabbiCohen/status/1537209310748590081?t=hyCKPVh8pDexAGjvsz26iQ&s=19

Does this mean we can try the antisemitism thing against terfs?

# ¿ Jun 17, 2022 07:46

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

NotJustANumber99 posted:

lol, if they were smart Rwanda would just shove everyone we send them back to us, possibly getting endlessly paid for the same 7 guys flying back and forth. They'll make a mint in airmiles.

It's fine though, you see the prince of Rwanda emailed Boris personally to say they can take millions of asylum seekers in, he just needs England to take a few of theirs first and then he will be able to access his immigration system and pay him back tenfold.

Also each asylum seeker needs to be carrying £2500 in apple gift cards.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2022 23:58

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

An entire group dedicated to researching the person who did this.

# ¿ Jun 18, 2022 23:29

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 18:33

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Terves have poisoned discourse to the point that a tweet like this...

https://twitter.com/CllrAnnaRothery/status/1538430139586994176?t=p9icq5VKGxxTqdzvNddbzg&s=19

...entails a ten minute research diversion to work out exactly what this statement actually means.

I think they're talking about worker's / WASPI human rights being eroded, but it would be incredibly easy to read a summary like that and have every dog in a 500 metre radius start howling uncontrollably.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2022 17:57

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