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Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Barry Foster posted:

Struggling to give a poo poo if Boris gets da boot today. Like, what does it even change?

I don't even have the energy for schadenfreude (the covid may have a hand in that, though, I suppose)

I read this as "emergency schadenfreude" and am now picturing you next to a box reading "in case of It Happening, break glass" and going "meh..."

Skarsnik posted:

#bojonoco

My favourite Womble

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Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Nationalise teeth

Guavanaut posted:

Yorkie was just the opening salvo in the barrage of poo poo that led to


I'm enjoying the escalating war on wipes

Sewer-knowers: "Don't flush any wipes please"
Companies: "New! Flushable wipes"
SK: "Don't flush any wipes please, even ones that say flushable"
Companies: "Flushable wipes - 100% proven!!"

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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I drove past a sign in a field by the motorway today. It said

TROTS!!

in very large letters

Dutch for "proud", went on to say something about being proud about farmers, but made me giggle

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Noxville posted:

Does make me wonder, what is it about the conservative brain that just LOVES to assign stereotypes to people? Do they want to make sure everybody is correctly in their rightful place, or are they just too lacking in empathy to understand that not everyone thinks the same way? Probably both.

I think the former is definitely involved. Stereotypes, archetypes, roles to perform, all favourites of conservative thought. Academics and actors are supposed to be [ancient gay slur] [more modern gay slur] woke, plus it gives them someone to hate, but builders? Nooo!

Is it Witches Abroad where the toymaker or someone gets executed for not being red-faced and jolly enough, in the perfect storybook land? Something like that.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Failed Imagineer posted:

This was the plot of an episode of The Orville I watched last night. So far, The Orville is the most Trek show since Voyager ended

Hah, I watched that same episode yesterday too. I just started it while off sick, never watched a Star Trek but I like it.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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I'm very interested to see what happens when the queen goes. You've got the double whammy of most people not remembering a time when she wasn't queen, but also decades of the next guy hanging around being a human* in plain sight. They should have just kept him charging in a crate.

I don't think it'll automatically make people go "right, time for a republic", but it won't be exactly the same.

I agree with the people above too. You can't fix everything just by abolishing the monarchy/lords/really stupid pageantry and demolishing the HoP to be replaced with a modern hemicycle with enough seats for everyone... but I'm not sure how anything can get fixed without doing that.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Also, if we did see the end of the monarchy, it would be followed by groups of people getting together and mumbling that "things were better when there were kings" - and I'm not sure the UK can afford the consequent dragon damage.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Tesseraction posted:

sikh turban and start cossack dancing towards you while facing towards mecca.

Your religion is intriguing to me, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Tesseraction posted:

To make it explicit I was mocking the complete lack of understanding racists have about what Muslims wear / how they act.

Oh I got that, I just thought it sounded like a fun combo :)

Apraxin posted:



always a good sign when you're like 'well, at least it won't be the apartheid guy (this time)'

[Sajid Javid takes off fake beard] "So much for plan B"

My own turn at clarity, this is a joke about the time someone got them mixed up a while back, even though they look nothing alike

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Tesseraction posted:

I have to admit I am worried about how the country will handle the coming heatwave. We're likely looking at a mass death event that the government is incapable and unwilling to do anything to prevent.

And all of this has been known since the time of the LAST LABOUR GOVERNMENT and throughout the time of the shiny tories.

- There's a pandemic coming, probably respiratory, not if but when
- The UK's housing stock sucks for the weather we have now, and needs radical fixing
(in part because:)
- Even if we do stuff, more extreme weather is inevitable
- The above "doing stuff" should involve moving off fossil fuels
(and ok, the invasion of Ukraine might not have been obvious in 1997, but then we're into "what if we created a better world for no reason" territory)

E: and I think everyone in this thread will make their own calculation at election time, based on all the factors mentioned. But saying at this stage "I will definitely vote Labour no matter what, to keep the Tories out" is just silly.

Bobstar fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Jul 15, 2022

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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OwlFancier posted:

I think the desired end goal is that you just have to present your papers whenever a copper asks you to, because he wants the government to monitor you 24/7.

Plus it causes people with complicated statuses to suffer. Like, there's no way to be in favour of ID cards "to tackle illegal immigration" unless you think the Windrush scandal is bad because it didn't go far enough.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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crispix posted:

CLIMATE DOOMERIST SNOWFLEKS WE WANT HAVE FUN HAPPY FUN LIKE 1976 SUMMAR ROGER MOORE SPACE HOPPERS LOL :holy:

Counterpoint: JERMY SUNBYM WANTS TO TAKE US BACK TO THE 1970s!!!!

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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That was very good. We just need a packaged response of why the wage-price spiral is nonsense in this instance - but what Owl says above is a pretty good universal comeback: "so if wages had kept up with inflation at any point since 2008, that would have caused a wage-price spiral? What's the long-term plan?"

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Tomberforce posted:

Solar panels will run ac units for basically nothing. AC units are also incredibly efficient for heating homes in the colder months. Something to consider if this weather becomes more frequent and your boiler needs replacing.

A good post, but I'm sorry to tell you that these are actually Soviet-style heat pumps and anyone who buys one is a traitor to good old British flame boxes.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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I'm glad I'm not going bald, I don't have the head shape to look cool like Morpheus, or 47, or even the Observer from Fringe.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Yeah cats can tolerate some more heat than humans I think... mine are mostly lying on their sides being toasty. But watch out for panting, that's not a normal cat thing and means they're too hot.

Noxville posted:

Awaiting for the first set of posts of people who’ve posted last week about how it’s just a bit of hot weather and we’re all snowflakes and then this week have been hospitalised with heatstroke

In hospital, begging for the heat vaccine, but once you're hot, it's too late :(

E: cat tax


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Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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I frog-boiled myself into thinking my office on the 2nd floor with all the windows was ok. Came down and it feels 10 degrees cooler. I'll be working from the dining table tomorrow, which is forecast to be our (NL) 38 degree day. It'll be like the beginning of Covid, where my wife took over my WFH setup because I had nothing to do.

Plus it'll discourage the cats from hanging out upstairs just because I'm there. It's cooler downstairs, you foolish creatures!

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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happyhippy posted:

Someone needs to invent cooled underpants.

Halfway there https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/DFJ201ZS

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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OwlFancier posted:

Just not possible to improve living standards unfortunately, can't be done.

"At least we tried"
[touches earpiece]
"I'm being told that we definitely did not try. Please don't put in the newspaper that we tried"

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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TACD posted:

I would quite like to get into 'proper' coffee but all the ways to do it seem to involve spending a huge amount of money on gear and then lots of time grinding beans and other faff. I'm not interested in "the ritual", I just want my coffee!

Last time we had coffeetalk in the Discord somebody recommended a V60 as an easy entry point and it's fine, but I still feel like I'm loving it up because it takes so long to pour over that by the time it's ready it's only lukewarm (since I'm already starting with below–boiling point water). Shouldn't it be piping hot?

I wouldn't call V60 an easy entry point - it's got too many variables, some of them skill-based. I'd start with an Aeropress or a Clever Dripper, which are cheap, easy to clean, and fairly foolproof at making nice coffee. Usually you'd be using near-boiling water too.

The biggest leap going from "normal person" coffee to specialty (snob) coffee is using freshly-ground beans, preferably roasted in the last few weeks and using a burr grinder that doesn't suck. This would probably be the "money on gear" part, and it's definitely not pocket change, but it doesn't have to be new-hobby money either.

My go-to setup would be

Baratza Encore electric grinder (or an equivalent quality hand grinder for less money)

Clever Dripper OR Aeropress

Digital scale

Also agreeing with Spangly that the ritual can be nice, and it's nowhere near home espresso levels of crazy. You can go from entering the kitchen to sipping a cup in well under 10 minutes, inc cleanup.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Matinee posted:

I read the novel when it came out and I thought the bit where he tries to get in with the modern-day neo-nazi movement but they kick the poo poo out of him because they think he's an Andy Kauffman-style piss-taking YouTube comedian was a pretty funny spin on how things would probably go.

I read it in German, which I'm near-native in, and it was hard going - just because it's written in the first person, and therefore in very fancy formal language (I guess like Hilter wrote in?), where you don't find until the end of the very long sentence what verb is actually being used, out.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Guavanaut posted:

Liz Truss will deliver an inspiring speech about the nine counties of Ulster and everything will be fixed.

e: Londonkerry

Gets wrong limb, does speech in front of Isle of Man flag

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Guavanaut posted:

It came home.

Finally. Now can we keep an eye on it this time, so it doesn't get away again?

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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I think these people understand globololizatian about as well as the (probably problematic, but funny) thread my av is from, if anyone remembers that.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Why does Italy always come up? Do they have a lot of doctors who like promising miracles, or is it always the same one?

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Guavanaut posted:

Caught woking in a Pizza Express

:golfclap:

something something gammon something Wokingham

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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They have won the Cup of Moray
(and Lady Mondegreen)

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Guavanaut posted:

This is exactly what David Graeber warned us about. Getting uncomfortably close to "[Karl] Lueger's anti-Semitism was of a homespun, flexible variety—one might almost say gemütlich. Asked to explain the fact that many of his friends were Jews, Lueger famously replied, 'I decide who is a Jew.'"

I'm sad I didn't know who he was until he died. Now I'm going to re-read "Debt" in light of the things I've picked up about money while learning how stupid cryptocurrency is.

Especially in light of the current situation, I think actually understanding how money works is more important than ever - if only to explain to loved ones why Ann Widdecombe is wrong

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Unrelated, some medium-good news

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/13/sarah-everard-met-forced-to-halt-absurd-convictions-over-vigil

WTF is this though?

quote:

The six were accused of breaking Covid lockdown rules by attending the vigil. Some were previously convicted behind closed doors under the Single Justice Procedure (SJP), including Al-Obeid, who had been unaware she had received a criminal record until contacted by media.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Necrothatcher posted:

Half marathon. Not very fun. Even the deer were fainting.

As the hart pants

does he wear them

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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ronya posted:

there's an anecdote -

(I don't think this confusion would still exist today, to be clear. But it's hilarious. I blame 'public school'.)

I still have a split-second hangover from childhood confusion between public sector and private sector. Because the "private" sector is things like shops, restaurants, cinemas, where the public are allowed in, but the "public" sector is secret government buildings you're not allowed in.

I do like the word public though.

Public housing ("council" and "social" having been treadmilled into oblivion)
Public services
Public money (not "taxpayers' money")
Public spaces (and ban fake-public spaces that are actually privately owned)

It's a good word for "owned by everyone, administered by some level of government"

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Speaking of global foreign money something

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/16/ofwat-chief-defends-water-companies-over-lack-of-new-reservoirs

quote:

He also defended the large pay water company bosses and shareholders have been given, saying it made them more competitive in the global market.

What does this mean?? It's just like a magic incantation in defense of high pay that this point.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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domhal posted:

Obliteration of small businesses now more significant than Salman Rushdie

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2022/aug/19/uk-small-businesses-forced-to-close-by-soaring-energy-bills

but it's in purple so about the same level as "we've poked around some small rural villages again" in guardian hierarchy. Hopefully no Woody Allen news coming soon.

I thought Adrian Chiles had opened a chip shop for a moment there

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Jel Shaker posted:

back in, new leader poll boost and another wipeout election

Starmer, the next morning: "This is all Jironnie Corbett's fault!"

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

In our lobby we only have one electric socket and it would mean trailing a flex across the whole lobby area and probably end up with someone tripping / falling / executing themselves by running over the cable in their mobility scooter.

Welcome to Wales, 47. Janus is holed up in a block of flats...

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Dear big scary monsters, how do you type with boxing gloves on?

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Ms Adequate posted:

genuinely hard to wrap my head around the fact a bunch of people think the problem is HRT is too easy to get.

Congrats!

And this bit reminds me of my "favourite" tabloid story of "I was able to waltz in an get benefits - no questions asked ...all I had to do was lie convincingly in answer to some questions"

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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Bobby Deluxe posted:

He did a whole thread ages ago where he wrote an excellent analysis of everything that was wrong with the economy, but in his conclusion one of the things he said was something like "the political left offer no solutions and are ridiculous" or words to that effect. Despite the only straightforward and viable solutions being the ones offered by socialism.

Even when he does come up with nationalising as a solution, it comes with this brain bending caveat that it's not socialism because socialism doesn't work, and this works so it can't be socialism.

That thread must be the reason I found this in my Simpsons meme folder

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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And you don't need "special" pants for induction, in the sense of being obscure and expensive. We have Ikea 365 saucepans and they're great.

E: that should say pans but I'm not changing it

Technology Connections here with water boiling comparisons between kettle, gas and induction (North America)

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

When I lived in Cairo (don't yawn) there was something going round that Muslim women shouldn't change in front of non-Muslim women in case the non-Muslim women went and told Men what the Muslim women looked like in their state of undress.

This sounds like a very weird version of the court sketch people, who have to dash out and draw the participants from memory.

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Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

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xtothez posted:

Does anyone know how this situation is affecting EU countries?

I assume places like France with nationalised power are just eating the new cost without it affecting people too much. Is that accurate, or are they in trouble too?

Anecdotally, the Dutch government has cut taxes on energy and given some kind of rebate, which has taken around 25% off our bills... until our 3 year contract runs out in November. And I have no idea what variable tariff we'll end up on, because the website doesn't want to tell us! A quick google looks like 3-4x what we're paying now though :ohdear:

So it's as you'd expect from the liberal politics here - "market" energy, failing companies, random government injections but no structural solutions.

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