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khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

Bishyaler posted:


Re: Ireland - I'm talking about the late 60s, early 70s

Ok, so I notice that Northern Ireland comes up quite frequently in these discussions as a 'successful' insurgency.

What do you make of the currently existing gun laws that exist in the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland? Because generally speaking they are far, far more stringent than those that exist in America and its very much not a controversial thing within Irish politics that they are stringent, primarily for hunting and farming rather than self defense or as a fall back against an oppressive government.

Here's the Republic's basic gun policies:
https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/cp/ireland

And the North:
https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/northern-ireland

Its generally the case that few people view returning to 70s style shootings and bombings as even vaguely acceptable, and the violence that Northern Ireland has gone through has had highly destructive effects on its economy and culture to this day. The IRA also got a lot of its weaponry from state actors like Libya or smuggled from Europe and America rather than civilians at home and tended to make use of bombs rather than firearms for their most successful campaigns.

khwarezm fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Jun 7, 2022

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khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.
:nws: :nms: Mod warning: twitter link is a graphic picture of a dead body, view at your on risk

https://twitter.com/Iraqveteran8888/status/1549872282495066114

So can I take it that the current conversation about guns in America and the complete absurdity of everything is going to die off again because the pro gun side will point to this and pretend that Good Guys With A Gun™ will be available at every corner to stop the mass shooters so that they only kill an acceptable minimum of two or three people at a time?

(also, check out the immediate resorting to the idea that mass shootings are intentionally manufactured as part of a wider conspiracy in the responses to this tweet)

Somebody fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Jul 21, 2022

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