- Scuffy_1989
- Jul 3, 2022
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Shooting in a mall in Copenhagen today, 3 people killed.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-62031793
BBC posted:
We are expecting an update from Copenhagen police in the next hour but before then let's take a look at what we know so far:
Police were called at 17:37 local time to reports of a shooting at Field's mall in south Copenhagen
Several people were killed and others wounded, but police are yet to provide any specific figures
They arrested a 22-year-old man, who they described as an "ethnic Dane"
Police chief Soeren Thomassen said the motive was unclear, but he could not rule out an "act of terrorism"
Eyewitnesses and videos shared on social media show panic among shoppers as gunfire rang out inside the mall
A concert by British singer Harry Styles at a 17,000-capacity venue less than a mile from the scene was cancelled at the last minute due to the shooting
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- Scuffy_1989
- Jul 3, 2022
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I get what you're going for. But as I said, I don't think it'll be really possible to convince someone in that frame of mind. To any potential issue they can say that they will be the model responsible gun owner.
- Guns are dangerous
- I'm better at guns than John Wick
- Would you trust your neighbor with guns?
- He's an idiot but I'd rather have a gun myself and then I can shoot him if necessary
- What if guns are illegal
- He could get an illegal gun
- It would b e almost impossible like in Japan
- But not 0% so I'm still better off with a gun
Since you seem to be able to get yourself into their shoes, what do you think could work?
1. Yes, yes they are.
2. No, but he's fictional.
3. Depends on the neighbor, but we trust him with an F150.
4. Yes.
5. They would be harder to get.
6. Maybe? Depends on his network of friends and how good he is with building things.
7. No, Japan doesn't share a border with Mexico. People are trafficked into Iowa from Mexico, guns could be too.
8. Yes, the police aren't going to save you.
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Jul 20, 2022 17:58
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- Scuffy_1989
- Jul 3, 2022
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i've been in a couple situations where someone threatened my life, but i don't carry a firearm, so it was not possible for me to defend myself with a firearm
in the once instance i ran away and in the other instance the bartender threatened to call the cops and my assailant ran away. maybe sometimes someone uses a firearm in a legally and morally justified way to ward off a mortal threat, maybe sometimes someone reacts to a perceived insult by killing multiple innocent people. regardless, these are just anecdotes, but added up all together, firearms cause more deaths in the united states than motor vehicle accidents
Where are you getting that from?
There were 38,324 fatalities due to auto accident in 2020.
There were 19,384 murders where a firearm was in the instrument in 2020.
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Jul 20, 2022 20:28
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- Scuffy_1989
- Jul 3, 2022
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i'm including the 24,292 firearm suicides
Why? Japan has a higher suicide rate than the United States and it's nearly impossible to get a gun there.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/622249/japan-suicide-number-per-100-000-inhabitants/
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71...%20population).
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Jul 20, 2022 20:33
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- Scuffy_1989
- Jul 3, 2022
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because suicides by firearm are a death, caused by a firearm, included when i said "deaths by firearm"
if you want to pick apart the details for some reason then i have some troubling information for you about the motor vehicle death rate for people who do not operate nor ride in motor vehicles
Suicides are deaths caused by people wanting to commit suicide, banning the gun isn't going to stop people killing themselves.
People use countries like Japan as evidence of the effectiveness of gun control but Japan's near total ban on guns doesn't help its suicide rates. What makes you think it would work here?
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Jul 20, 2022 20:47
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- Scuffy_1989
- Jul 3, 2022
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i'm simply pointing out factual information amount the number of deaths caused by firearms in the united states in 2020. any struggles you have with this factual information are your responsibility alone to overcome
you are the only person in this conversation to bring up japan or gun bans. i wish you well on your adventure to find someone to participate in this argument with you but i cannot join you on your quest
mobby_6kl brought up Japan as a place where guns are hard to aquire, that's why I'm using them as an example.
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- Scuffy_1989
- Jul 3, 2022
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And, the perfect example of this is the solid gold Yankee lunatic that has gone down in local lore as "the Nose Hill Gentleman."
TL;DR: A cop from Michigan was visiting Calgary during the Stampede, basically a giant city-wide festival including pretty much everything from concerts to rodeos to charitable events and everything else. He was walking in a local park with his wife, and some folks from a local radio station approached him and tried to offer him free concert tickets or tickets to the Stampede because they were out giving poo poo away to people. He apparently felt this "confrontation" was a horrible threat and bemoaned that he could not carry a gun to "defend himself" from, I suppose, the threat of... people giving him free things?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/nose-hill-gentlemen-pro-gun-letter-sparks-twitter-frenzy-1.1172624
It's easy to laugh at him (and I do, every time I think about it), but the truth is that if you want to fix the roots of America's rather insane gun culture, you have to address the cultural factors that make a guy like this think some people talking to him in a park could be a threat. That's a perfectly insane thing to think, and that kind of paranoia is driving the desire to have firearms for personal defense. That being said, I absolutely think he believes every word of what he said, and that he thinks there was actually a possible threat there. That's what we need to address.
I've been in some... rougher areas of the world in my life, I've seen people get shot, and on no occasion did it begin with a friendly conversation or the attempt to offer free things.
Here's the guy's letter, if anyone was curious. Cops really do go around looking for excuses to shoot people, don't they?
Letter to the editor posted:
I recently visited Calgary from Michigan. As a police officer for 20 years, it feels strange not to carry my off-duty hand-gun. Many would say I have no need to carry one in Canada.
Yet the police cannot protect everyone all the time. A man should be al-lowed to protect himself if the need arises. The need arose in a theatre in Aurora, Colo., as well as a college campus in Canada.
Recently, while out for a walk in Nose Hill Park, in broad daylight on a paved trail, two young men approached my wife and me. The men stepped in front of us, then said in a very aggressive tone: "Been to the Stampede yet?"
Herald columnist Naomi Lakritz: Officer's comments reflect cultural divide between Canada, U.S.
We ignored them. The two moved closer, repeating: "Hey, you been to the Stampede yet?"
I quickly moved between these two and my wife, replying, "Gentle-men, I have no need to talk with you, goodbye." They looked bewildered, and we then walked past them.
I speculate they did not have good intentions when they approached in such an aggressive, disrespectful and menacing manner. I thank the Lord Jesus Christ they did not pull a weapon of some sort, but rather concluded it was in their best interest to leave us alone.
Would we not expect a uniformed officer to pull his or her weapon to intercede in a life-or-death encounter to protect self, or another? Why then should the expectation be lower for a citizen of Canada or a visitor? Wait, I know - it's because in Canada, only the criminals and the police carry handguns.
Walt Wawra, Kalamazoo, Mich.
Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com:80/Nose+Hill+Park+confrontation+makes+visitors+feel+unsafe/7050028/story.html#ixzz28WCnc3Aq
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