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Jun 2, 2022 20:09
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They are great once everyone gets past the learning curve and stops cutting people off or doing dumb poo poo. Even if you get hit you aren’t dead like from someone running a 4 way stop on a country road
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Jun 2, 2022 20:10
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Colonel Cancer posted:What if we put roundabouts... Underground!?! 
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Jun 2, 2022 20:15
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I call em drivearounds or squeeliewheelies
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Jun 2, 2022 20:16
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BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:Wow great idea Elon, thanks for the input buddy laugh all you want, but i'll be the first to market with fully automated driving once all roads are straight and have no intersections
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Jun 2, 2022 20:17
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cUwVLx8K9s another great classic roundabout
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Jun 2, 2022 20:17
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My little town outside of Cincinnati is nothing but roundabouts. They are pretty nice.
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Jun 2, 2022 20:17
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Meme Poker Party posted:Like many things, the biggest issue with implementing this in America is all the Americans. People say this and then they put a poo poo load of them into rural Wisconsin and as soon as they went in people went "Alright cool" and there was never an issue. So basically what you're saying is horse poo poo again. At least HERE a lot of the pushback came from two sources, each of which has at least some merit, but none with nearly enough to 'stop the implementation' as you put it.: A.) Many of the intersections that were targetted for installations had been recently renovated or were already on the docket to BE renovated, and so it appeared (at least to outsiders, and you can imagine why) that it was simply doubleing-up or more of tax funds just to rip out these already paid for intersections or ones that were at least theoretically budgeted. and B.) Property owners on the adjoining land who would lose frontage or acreage due to the larger size of the intersections taking up more of their property and thus being 'eye-sores'. There wasn't ever any valid complaint that "Hell they're gonna kill more drivers than they save you fools" or "There's no way I can ever figure out how to get my vehicle through one of these and will surely perish".
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Jun 2, 2022 20:18
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BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:I call em drivearounds or squeeliewheelies ah, a british person
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Jun 2, 2022 20:18
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They're good, but also a sure sign of creeping british imperialism.
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Jun 2, 2022 20:22
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Single lane roundabouts are great but my old town had a 2-lane one and despite all the signs and it not even being that busy people still managed to get scared and gently caress it up and getting into accidents.
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Jun 2, 2022 20:26
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Always signal to leave
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Jun 2, 2022 20:28
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:Single lane roundabouts are great but my old town had a 2-lane one and despite all the signs and it not even being that busy people still managed to get scared and gently caress it up and getting into accidents. at least they are less harmful, low speed rear ending or sideswiping is preferable to the high speed tbones we're trying to avoid with roundabouts. a typical 4 way intersection is most deadly when someone is trying to turn left and fucks up and gets nailed by high speed oncoming traffic
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Jun 2, 2022 20:40
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a 2 lane roundabout at the shopping center near the interstate with a tiny bike lane in the middle is what we have in my town
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Jun 2, 2022 20:43
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Have you guys noticed people have now just decided stop signs are optional? Seems way worse now than before Covid. Maybe people realized there just isn't anyone to enforce it. I see people running stops constantly in neighborhoods when I walk the dog. It's crazy.
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Jun 2, 2022 20:43
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numberoneposter posted:Have you guys noticed people have now just decided stop signs are optional? Seems way worse now than before Covid. Maybe people realized there just isn't anyone to enforce it. I see people running stops constantly in neighborhoods when I walk the dog. It's crazy. I ain't lettin the gubbrmint tell me what to do. Freedom.
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Jun 2, 2022 20:55
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numberoneposter posted:ban cars give everyone government issued ftfy
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Jun 2, 2022 21:04
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numberoneposter posted:Have you guys noticed people have now just decided stop signs are optional? Seems way worse now than before Covid. Maybe people realized there just isn't anyone to enforce it. I see people running stops constantly in neighborhoods when I walk the dog. It's crazy. Yes. Also all their other driving skills went to poo poo over the last two years too
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Jun 2, 2022 21:06
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in my state theres no laws about who is supposed to have the right of way in the roundabout, it's just up to "the prevailing traffic flow" or something idk if this is true but i heard it once.
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Jun 2, 2022 21:09
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Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:in my state theres no laws about who is supposed to have the right of way in the roundabout, it's just up to "the prevailing traffic flow" or something that's crazy if true lol cars on the roundabout have right of way is like the only rule needed for a roundabout to work.
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Jun 2, 2022 21:14
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numberoneposter posted:Have you guys noticed people have now just decided stop signs are optional? Seems way worse now than before Covid. Maybe people realized there just isn't anyone to enforce it. I see people running stops constantly in neighborhoods when I walk the dog. It's crazy. Yeah everyone sucks rear end at driving now
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Jun 2, 2022 21:16
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Kirk Vikernes posted:Roundabouts are OK, cars are good and non-American motorcycles are even better. Roundabouts on a good motorcycle when there's zero traffic are fun as gently caress. Roundabouts when there's even moderate traffic are terrible because everyone is loving stupid and can't figure out what to do without a great big flashing light telling them when to stop and go.
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Jun 2, 2022 21:19
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 Just driving in a roundabout. What? What's that up there?  Another roundabout?! Wtf!
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Jun 2, 2022 21:24
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i've noticed a trend in some reworked streets in housing developments lately where they take out the stop signs and put in the world's tiniest roundabouts. like, just a 4 foot circumference cement block in the center of the road so you just barely have to swerve around it. if you stay far enough over to the right you could probably just drive straight through without even turning the wheel. i don't really get how those are supposed to prevent an accident any more than a completely uncontrolled 4 way intersection, and really the only reason they aren't deadly is because most people are only driving 25 mph and can easily see any cross-traffic coming.
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Jun 2, 2022 21:24
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Roundabouts are good because they make people think about what they are doing, which makes them safer. They are unpopular for the same reason
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Jun 2, 2022 21:27
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Mountains come out of the sky and they just... They just STAND THERE
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Jun 2, 2022 21:27
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Saalkin posted:
Can't talk about roundabouts within roundabouts without mentioning "the magic roundabout" in Swindon, UK. Surprised it hasn't been posted already in this thread actually. 
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Jun 2, 2022 21:28
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Loitering mountains are what's screwing everything up is what I'm saying
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Jun 2, 2022 21:28
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My city’s traffic engineers came up with the ingenious idea of creating a two lane roundabout where either lane could go around or turn out of the circle in any of the four directions. Now I’ll willing to bet that you, the humble reader, unschooled in the science of traffic control realized in seconds what the problem with this scenario is.
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Jun 2, 2022 21:29
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Bad Purchase posted:i've noticed a trend in some reworked streets in housing developments lately where they take out the stop signs and put in the world's tiniest roundabouts. like, just a 4 foot circumference cement block in the center of the road so you just barely have to swerve around it. if you stay far enough over to the right you could probably just drive straight through without even turning the wheel. These are good actually, massively better than 4-way stops (which are the worst). You could drive right through (depending on the exact size) but I see it as a benefit, because as long as you can clearly see that there's no traffic from the left, it's perfectly fine to blast through at full speed.
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Jun 2, 2022 21:30
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mobby_6kl posted:These are good actually, massively better than 4-way stops (which are the worst). You could drive right through (depending on the exact size) but I see it as a benefit, because as long as you can clearly see that there's no traffic from the left, it's perfectly fine to blast through at full speed. mini roundabouts are amazing, especially when there's three roads that would otherwise be a forked junction. like this 
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Jun 2, 2022 21:32
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but why even put the tiny concrete in the middle when you don’t even drive around it? just as a visual indicator? i agree it’s better than a 4 way stop for low traffic areas with good visibility, but they could just take out the stop signs out and not bother installing the tiny round slab.
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Jun 2, 2022 21:36
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Bad Purchase posted:but why even put the tiny concrete in the middle when you don’t even drive around it? just as a visual indicator? I dunno, most of them in the UK don't have a concrete bit. They're usually just slightly raised white painted circles, like this:  They're usually in low traffic areas that are 30 or 20mph limits, so even the ones that do have something in the middle it's still quicker to whip round the mini roundabout than it would be to slow down and roll through a regular junction (our junctions very rarely have stop signs here too)
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Jun 2, 2022 21:40
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:Can't talk about roundabouts within roundabouts without mentioning "the magic roundabout" in Swindon, UK. Surprised it hasn't been posted already in this thread actually. this is the good poo poo
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Jun 2, 2022 21:51
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They're no turbine or stack interchange i'll tell you what OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yITr127KZtQ
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Jun 2, 2022 21:57
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ultrafilter posted:Or when someone gets confused and turns left to enter. This pisses me the gently caress off when someone decides to shortcut through a roundabout by simply turning left instead of going the "long way around" in the teeny residential roundabouts we have littered throughout Seattle. It's intentional too, not a mistake, gotta save those 3 seconds
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Jun 2, 2022 22:01
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They redid some intersections with a few roundabouts in random spots around town about ten-fifteen years ago and they are nice to have. A lot of the older neighborhoods in city limits also have little islands in each intersection that follow roundabout rules, but with stop signs at each corner. It’s kind of dumb in narrow residential streets when you’re making a left with little to no traffic present, but whatever.
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Jun 2, 2022 23:04
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We also have “Michigan lefts” at some major intersections in which you drive through the intersection and make a U-turn right on the other side of said intersection in order to make a left turn. I didn’t like them at first, but now I think they’re a great idea because I get less anxiety and stress going through an intersection knowing there’s not some idiot that’ll make a turn in front of me without seeing me coming. They also severely reduced the number of crashes at each intersection that has them. Doesn’t stop dumbfucks that don’t know what they are from trying to make a left at the intersection with bigass explicit signage flashing “NO LEFT TURNS.”
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Jun 2, 2022 23:15
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:Can't talk about roundabouts within roundabouts without mentioning "the magic roundabout" in Swindon, UK. Surprised it hasn't been posted already in this thread actually. this is a much higher-level roundabout than we're prepared for.
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Jun 2, 2022 23:18
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:Can't talk about roundabouts within roundabouts without mentioning "the magic roundabout" in Swindon, UK. Surprised it hasn't been posted already in this thread actually. This would destroy the United States (well slightly faster than we’re already destroying ourselves)
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