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I'm saving Samurai to be the last job I take to 90 in the hopes that they'll revert that first
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Regy Rusty posted:I'm saving Samurai to be the last job I take to 90 in the hopes that they'll revert that first It’s still very playable and fun, just lost a bit of the flavour.
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Stormblood's intro movie has some cool sets and slick action sequences, but it's definitely the one I like least. I think the overtly story-focused style suits this game far better and never understood why it was framed this way -- I mean, the main plot is mostly a dense and heavy story about war. But this game's creators put a lot of thought into decisions like this. I think Sanguinia is on to something with the theory that it's referencing military propaganda.
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Jun 10, 2022 16:26
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Forsythia posted:I think Sanguinia is on to something with the theory that it's referencing military propaganda. It's something I hadn't considered before but makes sense and I think in that regard the Stormblood trailer is a much clearer follow-on from the Heavensward trailer. The first half of that was all spoilers/recap/welcome to Ishgard but the latter half went heavy on "The enemy is at the gates!" "Enlist in the Dragoons today!" "I'm doing my part!" vibe.
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Jun 10, 2022 16:58
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All the animated XIV trailers try to balance "here's hints of the plot to come" with "look at this gorgeous new stuff we've put into the game, like god drat". The HW trailer leans pretty heavily into the former (although that gorgeous retreating shot of Ishgard into the Sea of Clouds is definitely the latter) and the SB trailer goes entirely in the opposite direction. There isn't a whole lot about the expansion plot in the SB trailer as it's more excited to show you the new places you'll be going to and one of the new jobs you can be. I'll avoid talking about details here this early but I feel the trailer complements an overarching feel for the expansion plot, something worth discussing once credits start rolling over it, and where SB fits into the entire 10-year arc plot that XIV runs through.
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Jun 10, 2022 19:11
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I like Lyse, I would like her better if she had an outfit that PCs could wear from the cash shop but apparently it clips too much for PCs to use.
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Jun 10, 2022 20:08
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Kwyndig posted:I like Lyse, I would like her better if she had an outfit that PCs could wear from the cash shop but apparently it clips too much for PCs to use. eShop: https://store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ffxivstore/en-us/product/870
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Still counts as ground floor, no? Either way congratulations on reaching Stormblood, hope you enjoy the road to come!
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Yeah Lyse's outfit/hair got added last Tuesday. Great timing for the thread. Also I forget. When does BLU become available? After StB or after Shb? Is it already a available and Sang hasn't done it yet? Cause BLU rules. Also also, I really hope you like the viceroy. He's... divisive... but I think he's a great antagonist.
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BLU becomes available as soon as you clear Ultima Weapon, I believe.
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Yeah, it opens up right after finishing the 2.0 stuff. It's even on the free trial, unlike the "just be level 50" jobs!
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While that is technically true, BLU is not kind to people on the free trial. After all, you need to have paid for the game to use party finder.
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One thing I’ve realised might be interesting is seeing a comparison of the new MSQ duties and the old ones. Now that the two 8 man-dungeons have been changed into 4 man-dungeons with a 4 man trial against just the Ultima Weapon added.
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Sadly there's no way to see the very good new solo duties without doing NG+ that starts with the aftermath of Titan.
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If you're okay with secondhand experiences (and hey, we *are* in an LP thread), it's a lot easier. I do wish that the Unending Journey included solo duties in addition to the cutscenes. New cape Westwind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNW8GbOVFm8 New Praetorium ending: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=437rcB-KqjY
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You can, thankfully, speed through that content in like... an hour. I went through it in NG+, skipping all cutscenes, just to get to the new content. Other than travel times, the only slow bits were Stone Vigil (which I still tore through) and the... two? solo duties beforehand. I do think new Cape Westwind is excellent, as is the Lahabrea fight. But yeah they really should make the ARR ending it's own NG+ part :V
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I'd really love a way to replay MSQ solo duties anytime because there are so many cool fights hidden deep inside NG+ chapters.
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Sanguinia posted:Then, when the movie is done, as the last echo of our army’s war cry fades along with the final notes of music, we’re taken to the Start Screen. There we’re treated to The Stormblood song is 紅蓮のプレリュード (Guren no prelude), "Crimson Prelude", the Attack on Titan one is 紅蓮の弓矢 (Guren no yumiya), "Crimson Bow and Arrow". The FFXIV expansions have color words in their titles that got lost in translation: Heavensward is "Azure (蒼天) Ishgard" Stormblood is "Crimson (紅蓮) Liberator" Shadowbringers is "Pitch-black (漆黒) Villains" and finally, Endwalker is "Finale of the Dawn (暁月)", if you squint a bit and count Dawn as a color. The japanese players usually use just those colors to refer to the expansions instead of the full title. e: no, the title of the game is not a spoiler, you people are silly Tamba fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jun 13, 2022 |
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Edit: yeah sorry in retrospect, didn't register expansion titles could spoil some meanings.
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Jun 13, 2022 19:41
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Y'all should spoil/delete those last two replies. Sang has said they want as little outside/info preexisting knowledge as possible and even though they presumably couldn't avoid the English names of the next expansions they probably have managed to avoid the translations of the Japanese ones.
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Separately, to give the OP something they can actually read: Sang, I'm curious about what you think of the title 'Heavensward' itself. But I wonder what you think about it as it relates to the expansion on a more thematic level. In particular, if the story of HW is about you, or Ishgard, or whoever, moving heavensward (and in the lyrics to the expansion's theme song 'heavensward' is the direction that "ever do our aching souls" both 'point' and 'march', "as they've done for so long"), what does that say about what heaven is? Two other data points that I'm sure you thought of: -When you finally defeat Nidhogg in 3.3 his line (at the 3 minute mark of the cutscene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKljaRvrLvE&t=180s) is "Undone by mortal will. Whither now...?"...as his spiritual form/aetheric/ghostly form is clearly ascending upwards. -How the journey of the Warriors of Darkness, ultimately returning both to their home and to what they expect will be their deaths, fits into all of this. -Oh, and I guess you might as well throw in the contrast between Ilberd's death by falling downwards and Papalymo's almost literal ascension into the sky. Bonus question, of course: given the relation between HW's title and its plot/themes, what do you expect from an expansion called 'Stormblood'? jalapeno_dude fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jun 13, 2022 |
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Jun 13, 2022 21:42
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King Thordan posted:Let us take leave for Azys Lla, my friends. We must ascend Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward. I still can't believe Koji Fox got away with that one.
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I loved that "Heavensward" took on multiple meanings by the end. On the topic of Koji Fox crimes, I think HW zones still have the best FATE names.
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jalapeno_dude posted:The meaning of "Heavensward" I mean obviously, it refers to the patch of short grass in the Churning Mists. I'm not sure why this is up for debate, but goons will latch onto anything. 
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No, it’s about
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Tamba posted:e: no, the title of the game is not a spoiler, you people are silly No but you see, the Japanese language has special properties that could have dangerous ramifications if translated into other languages.
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so what color is ARR?
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The devs decided against giving ARR a color, because it would have utterly ruined the experience of anyone who heard the title of the game, which would have caused it to fail a second time. The Japanese title of ARR is just Eorzea Reborn Tamba fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jun 14, 2022 |
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hazardousmouse posted:so what color is ARR? FFXIV: Code Blue.
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jalapeno_dude posted:Y'all should spoil/delete those last two replies. Sang has said they want as little outside/info preexisting knowledge as possible and even though they presumably couldn't avoid the English names of the next expansions they probably have managed to avoid the translations of the Japanese ones. Do you think that a new Japanese player will have the plot of later expacs beamed into their mind when they read the title of the expansion or something
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jalapeno_dude posted:Y'all should spoil/delete those last two replies. Sang has said they want as little outside/info preexisting knowledge as possible and even though they presumably couldn't avoid the English names of the next expansions they probably have managed to avoid the translations of the Japanese ones. the title of the game is not a spoiler lmao
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The title of an expansion pack has nonzero correlation with what the content of the expansion is. Knowing more information about will come later can change your interpretation of what's happening now. Sang has repeatedly expressed a preference for trying to experience things the way a player going through things at the time the content was released would. You're free to think that's dumb, for whatever reason, but you could still try to respect their preferences.
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jalapeno_dude posted:The title of an expansion pack has nonzero correlation with what the content of the expansion is. Knowing more information about will come later can change your interpretation of what's happening now. every time i think i understood spoiler culture i end up losing the thread again anyway. are even titles of works unmentionable now
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right but its the title of the game
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There's nothing in the Japanese names of the expansions that aren't already implied in the English names.
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jalapeno_dude posted:The title of an expansion pack has nonzero correlation with what the content of the expansion is. Knowing more information about will come later can change your interpretation of what's happening now. Sang has repeatedly expressed a preference for trying to experience things the way a player going through things at the time the content was released would. You're free to think that's dumb, for whatever reason, but you could still try to respect their preferences. the main thing to me is that its the title of the video game
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Farg posted:right but its the title of the game The Life and Strange Surprizing Adventures of Robinson Crusoe, of York, Mariner: Who lived Eight and Twenty Years, all alone in an un-inhabited Island on the Coast of America, near the Mouth of the Great River of Oroonoque, Having been cast on Shore by Shipwreck, wherein all the Men perished but himself. With An Account how he was at last as strangely deliver'd by Pyrates. Written by Himself.
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Tamba posted:The Life and Strange Surprizing Adventures of Robinson Crusoe, of York, Mariner: Who lived Eight and Twenty Years, all alone in an un-inhabited Island on the Coast of America, near the Mouth of the Great River of Oroonoque, Having been cast on Shore by Shipwreck, wherein all the Men perished but himself. With An Account how he was at last as strangely deliver'd by Pyrates. Written by Himself. which ffxiv xpac is this one
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Farg posted:the main thing to me is that its the title of the video game The issue isn't the title of the things Sanguinia is playing, it's the titles of things in the future can inform how events in the current expansion may have happened. Say for example in WoW, knowing that the expansion after BfA is Shadowlands might encourage someone trying to play blind that something goes wrong in BfA that leads to a need to go into the Shadowlands. To give the example for Stormblood, if you're playing Heavensward blind and knew that the next expansion is Stormblood (Crimson Liberator), might cause one to change thoughts on how patch 3.4 and 3.5 play out narratively. But ultimately this isn't a question about spoiler etiquette, the direct statement in the OP is that you should avoid sharing information that Sanguinia, playing it for the first time as blind as possible, would not have had available at the time that section of the game came out originally. So the name of future expansions is not something that Sanguinia would have knowledge of playing Stormblood at the time when Stormblood came out. Is it something Sanguinia would know if they were playing at the time whilst avoiding spoilers, it's fine, if it isn't, don't share (unless prompted by Sanguinia). I'm no saint about this either I will admit. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Jun 14, 2022 |
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Honestly I mostly redacted my post because we shouldn't be even talking about the latest expansion because that's what leads to people treating this thread like it's the spoiler thread. Goons have no chill when talking about their favourite videogames.
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