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Lammasu posted:The fact that enough rich people go to prison that prison consultant is a thing gives me some comfort. Can't you guys at least find comfort in the fact that Trump is miserable? He attempted to overthrow an election and stands a very real chance of not only getting away with it, but also possibly being reelected to do god-only-knows with the newfound confidence that he is absolutely untouchable. So no, I can't.
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Lammasu posted:The fact that enough rich people go to prison that prison consultant is a thing gives me some comfort. Can't you guys at least find comfort in the fact that Trump is miserable? i will take comfort in the day i am sure he is accountable in a way appropriate to his crimes and is therefore not able to live out his days in luxury and complacency and political influence, and is finished as a social figurehead i get this in only one of two ways: he wears a prison jumpsuit and sleeps in a cell, or he farts to death and slumps over on camera, while this particular woman narrates the play by play  HE IS CONTINUING TO EXUDE GAS. HE IS DEFLATING. THE GAS IS ESCAPING FROM HIM VERY LOUDLY AND HE IS FLOPPING OVER LIKE A WACKY INFLATABLE TUBE GUY THAT GOT SHUT OFF. IT IS GETTING SADDER, (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Lammasu posted:Can't you guys at least find comfort in the fact that Trump is miserable? He is always miserable. That is why he is such a poo poo head to everyone around him. Has to use his wealth and power to punch down on everyone. So him being miserable is his status quo and means nothing. What we want is to see him get real deal punished (prison time IOW) for what he did, or if not that, at least get his chances of winning the presidency taken away. Temporary emotional anguish caused by having to use his donors money to pay his legal costs isn't going to accomplish either of those things. If anything it'll make him feel better since he knows he is successfully running a giant con job to evade any consequences while whipping his base into ever more fanatical fervor. How couldn't something like that feed his ego? Its a win win win for him.
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Apr 25, 2024 06:28
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Trump is the avatar of rich white male grievance. He's absolutely miserable at all times despite having to want for nothing, like every loving middle manager or small business tyrant you've ever met
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Apr 25, 2024 08:11
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It's weird to realize that my life is better than Donald Trump's, despite all his money and power. Elon Musk seems miserable as gently caress and anxious all the time too. Ivory towers seem hazardous to your mental health.
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Their lives are miserable because their entire worldview hinges on being adored and being right about their terrible ideas.
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The Bible posted:He attempted to overthrow an election and stands a very real chance of not only getting away with it, but also possibly being reelected to do god-only-knows with the newfound confidence that he is absolutely untouchable. For what it's worth I do understand and sympathise with your cynicism about the fact that an obvious crime guy is walking around freely after trying to do a coup. I'm just either a natural optimist or my antidepressants are working enough that as long as the court cases aren't over that there's a fraction of a chance he might get something. Not guaranteed, but I can't 100% discount it yet.
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Star Man posted:Their lives are miserable because their entire worldview hinges on being adored and being right about their terrible ideas. So... they are stuck in a teenager's world view? Oh my god... the horror.
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I think Rudy is in at least early stages of liver or heart failure.
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FizFashizzle posted:I think Rudy is in at least early stages of liver or heart failure. Inshallah
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FizFashizzle posted:I think Rudy is in at least early stages of liver or heart failure. Is America's Mayor drinking himself to death ironic or not?
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Tayter Swift posted:Indictment is here, although Rudy's name is weirdly redacted. Jimmy Carter noooo
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https://www.youtube.com/live/VdDNCDFpBtA?si=pQMZ7XCW3x1paMDI Live court audio on the immunity issue.
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Apr 25, 2024 15:19
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I feel KBJ already asked the slam dunk question https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1783500239564919227
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Caros posted:https://www.youtube.com/live/VdDNCDFpBtA?si=pQMZ7XCW3x1paMDI Sauer's voice is loving atrocious
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Jesus chriat, the Republicans on the court really do want "if the president does it, it's legal" to be the actual standard.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Jesus chriat, the Republicans on the court really do want "if the president does it, it's legal" to be the actual standard. ACB sounds extremely skeptical of Trump's lawyer's argument Justice Beer sounded like he was on Trump's legal team
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I’m enjoying KBJ not having this crap.
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Nash posted:I’m enjoying KBJ not having this crap. Yeah she's the justice we needed in all this
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Papercut posted:ACB sounds extremely skeptical of Trump's lawyer's argument ACB asked, and Bauer agreed, that this immunity claim only applies to official acts, and that many of the allegations are private acts. So, if SCOTUS decides to split the baby and rule that presidents are immune from prosecution for official acts, but not private ones, how would that change Trump's legal peril?
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Tesseraction posted:I feel KBJ already asked the slam dunk question https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1783500239564919227 James D. St. Clair, to the US Court of Appeals DC Circuit, posted:The President wants me to argue that he is as powerful a monarch as Louis XIV, only four years at a time, and is not subject to the processes of any court in the land except the court of impeachment.
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zoux posted:ACB asked, and Bauer agreed, that this immunity claim only applies to official acts, and that many of the allegations are private acts. So, if SCOTUS decides to split the baby and rule that presidents are immune from prosecution for official acts, but not private ones, how would that change Trump's legal peril? It makes a mess of everything because then the next battle is Trump stealing documents and trying to overthrow being argued as official acts.
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zoux posted:ACB asked, and Bauer agreed, that this immunity claim only applies to official acts, and that many of the allegations are private acts. So, if SCOTUS decides to split the baby and rule that presidents are immune from prosecution for official acts, but not private ones, how would that change Trump's legal peril? A Twelve months more of appeals over which precise allegations count as private and which count as public. These questions are making my opinion of Roberts and Kavanaugh drop even further, which I did not realize was possible. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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If they rule he's immune I hope Biden just summarily extradites Alito and Thomas to Venezuela or something. We elect a president, not a dictator, and the Founders knew very well the difference.
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They aren’t going to rule at all until after the election, and if Biden wins they are definitely not ruling for total immunity
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Ynglaur posted:If they rule he's immune I hope Biden just summarily extradites Alito and Thomas to Venezuela or something. We elect a president, not a dictator, and the Founders knew very well the difference. But did they write it down in a text that could be literally interpreted, without consideration for context or application, in pursuit of a narrow agenda?
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Peaceful protest vs trying to overturn the election. Apparently the same thing I guess in terms of crimes.
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I like how the government attorney keeps refusing to engage in Robert's vagueries and refocusing on trumps specific crimes
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zoux posted:ACB asked, and Bauer agreed, that this immunity claim only applies to official acts, and that many of the allegations are private acts. So, if SCOTUS decides to split the baby and rule that presidents are immune from prosecution for official acts, but not private ones, how would that change Trump's legal peril? That becomes a year of circuit court battles over which acts meet what definition
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https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1783521814758433212 This is absolutely insane
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1783521814758433212 Yeah this was about where I tapped out on listening to the proceedings, just couldn't handle any more of Alito's absolute bullshit.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1783521814758433212 Alito's entire train of thought today has been completely batshit
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I largely avoid doomerism but the republicans on the Supreme Court seriously contemplating giving the president blanket immunity to commit crimes in the context of an insurrection really feels like the end of the game on the grand experiment. Like, how the gently caress do you come back from this when his lawyers are openly saying a potus could assassinate his opponents?
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Does Alito ever leave the cavern of his own mind? Like, does he read books, or newspapers, or, I dunno, talk to other human beings? Serious question. Like, we know that Thomas is just in service to a rich white man who's a billionaire. Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are just not bright, but are idealogues. ACB is an idealogue, too, but seems to have consistent morals. (They're different than most of the country, but they're rationally consistent with her world-view.) But Alito? He just seems to make up weird stories he tells himself. IANAL so maybe he's a brilliant jurist in some way I just don't understand because I don't have enough background in law or something. Edit: Edited my descriptor of Thomas because I was being an insensitive rear end in a top hat. Sorry about that. I'm genuinely disgusted by an individual who would subserviate himself to a billionaire like that, but my word choice was lovely and insensitive. I'm sorry. Ynglaur fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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Ah yes, we can't allow prosecution of a person in high office inclined to do nefarious things because what if they might decide they don't want to leave that office?
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Alito has a deeply poisoned media diet that's locked him into an environment of fear and paranoia with no epistemological relationship, and bearing absolutely no resemblance, to the real world. He's a Fox News grandpa fixated on defeating his posting enemies and the sheer petty vitriol in his opinions makes that clear.
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Gorsuch just like ugly laughed lol, like a witch cackle
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Quorum posted:Alito has a deeply poisoned media diet that's locked him into an environment of fear and paranoia with no epistemological relationship, and bearing absolutely no resemblance, to the real world. He's a Fox News grandpa fixated on defeating his posting enemies and the sheer petty vitriol in his opinions makes that clear. He and Scalia were probably having watch parties of 24.
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