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LeeMajors posted:Wait, really? It’s not even on consecutive days? From the Washington Post: When are the hearings’ dates and times? The first hearing will start Thursday, June 9, at 8 p.m. Eastern. The second will be held Monday, June 13th, at 10 a.m. Eastern. There is also a hearing Wednesday, June 15th at 10 a.m. Eastern, and there could be even more that week. The committee hasn’t announced a formal schedule for the rest, but there could be as many as eight in total through June, with a final hearing in September — right before the November midterm elections.
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Silly Burrito posted:From the Washington Post: I believe you, it's just wild that they aren't even attempting to capture any momentum or like even commit to putting on A Show. Like, even with the levers of power they are incapable of just strapping in and turning the dial to 11.
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Jun 10, 2022 04:18
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I have the smallest of hopes that tonight was a mattering. I don't know how anyone could watch that and go "Yeah that was fine and good"
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Jun 10, 2022 04:26
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Oracle posted:I guess that’s one of the benefits to the Republicans refusing to participate, no one to interrupt the flow of evidence with bloviating and grandstanding and muddying the waters. Precisely why al Qaeda was not invited to participate in the 9-11 Commission.
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Jun 10, 2022 04:29
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SalTheBard posted:I have the smallest of hopes that tonight was a mattering. I don't know how anyone could watch that and go "Yeah that was fine and good" Nearly all of my even semi-politically aware friends don't even know the hearings are happening FYI.
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Jun 10, 2022 04:29
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SalTheBard posted:I have the smallest of hopes that tonight was a mattering. I don't know how anyone could watch that and go "Yeah that was fine and good" Keep in mind that the wildest, most optimistic, edge-case "mattering" outcome politically from these hearings that is still within the boundaries of reality would be, perhaps, the polls shifting 8 points or so toward the Dems.
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Jun 10, 2022 04:31
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I feel like it's going to matter in a very counterfactual sense. Trump may not run again because of it. It may stop future election stealing foolishness outside of just using the law to disenfranchise people. In short, the ways where it might matter, we won't know if it actually mattered.
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Jun 10, 2022 04:48
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It will matter the next time somebody tries to steal an election, which is 100% guaranteed at this point. Maybe when that happens and the red flags are raised and people call for backup, somebody responds. Maybe
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Jun 10, 2022 05:07
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Yeah this is the end in my eyes. That was a failure of a hearing beyond the Jared and Ivanka footage and the fact they have to break for weeks is beyond ridiculous to me. This will lead to no arrests. This isn't healing. Honestly I suspect I'm gonna look back in the future and see this moment as when the fascists won. The idea that you can just vote your way out of a problem is ridiculous when there is no action on those votes- IE: they believe this will somehow save them in midterms or beyond. We voted the dems and Joe Biden in, but it's still just been minority rule. Kinda feels like voting doesn't really work at the moment. That's why there needed to be big arrests, there needed to be colossal grandstanding and shocking moments that the spin machine wouldn't be able to defend (like say, Kids in Cages). It's just gonna fizzle out now. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Jun 10, 2022 |
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Jun 10, 2022 05:08
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Like, guys. I know we want it to matter. But when you spend most of it asking a reporter and cop some boring questions, that's a failure. Nobody will be swayed. Everybody will forget this. This was a colossal failure. The only way, right now, 100% for things to matter is for the DOJ to arrest Donald Trump on charges of insurrection. But they're not going to do that because the old political establishment absolutely believes that if you indict a president it undermines future presidents. Even when that president committed explicitly high treason and attempted to subvert the will of the people. That's it. There was nothing in this to me, that I can go "Oh hey, that is going to be offensive to everyone". Because it's not. It's not going to be offensive to the 30% of America that is insane like my example of Kids in Cages would be. This was a shitshow. Mark my words. Toxx me. loving Toxx me right now  Donald Trump runs in the next presidential election because he gets away with it, again, because people are cowards and idiots. I eat a ban if he gets arrested or decides to not run.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Mark my words. Toxx me. loving Toxx me right now Since we know he likes his adoring rallies, even if he decided he was not going to run, there's still a good chance he "runs" for a while then drops out for some bullshit reason before things get real. Do you think he'll still be running the night of the New Hampshire primary? (gently caress Iowa)
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Rigel posted:Since we know he likes his adoring rallies, even if he decided he was not going to run, there's still a good chance he "runs" for a while then drops out for some bullshit reason before things get real. Do you think he'll still be running the night of the New Hampshire primary? (gently caress Iowa) Oh if he runs he'll run to win. Why would he stop? He gets all the attention his broke brain needs as president. He's not in the news every day when he's not president. And you know. Money. Status. Power. etc.
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Jun 10, 2022 05:36
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nine-gear crow posted:Yeah, Bill "I wrote a full page op ed in the Wall Street Journal telling Donald Trump I would help him break the law if he hired me" Barr thought this was just too drat illegal and dangerous to be a part of. Bill ‘I managed the fallout from Iran-Contra and had Bush Sr pardon Casper Weinburger and others on Christmas Eve because I so strongly believe in the power of the executive/that Republicans should never see consequences’ Barr noped out of Trump’s Apple Dumplin’ Gang level coup plot.
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SalTheBard posted:I have the smallest of hopes that tonight was a mattering. I don't know how anyone could watch that and go "Yeah that was fine and good" It was put on well and will give talking heads something to chat about for the Sunday shows and get the word out in time for Monday. That was a lot of footage. My kids were even watching and asking questions. It made an impression.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Yeah this is the end in my eyes. That was a failure of a hearing beyond the Jared and Ivanka footage and the fact they have to break for weeks is beyond ridiculous to me. if there was any chance of repercussion the republican party would've been there trying to disrupt the proceedings. this is all an optics circus. the dems want to look good for that sweet mid-term boost and get some political cache going with the republicans they'll bail out, and the non-maga republicans want to boost their brand so they can sell books and appear on CNN to act as the old-school "sensible" conservatives. Nelson Mandingo posted:This was a shitshow. Mark my words. Toxx me. loving Toxx me right now Automata 10 Pack fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Jun 10, 2022 |
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Like, guys. I know we want it to matter. But when you spend most of it asking a reporter and cop some boring questions, that's a failure. Nobody will be swayed. Everybody will forget this. This was a colossal failure. A ton of footage got played, but if your beef is they spent time asking questions, what do you think a hearing is?
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Jun 10, 2022 06:54
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cr0y posted:Nearly all of my even semi-politically aware friends don't even know the hearings are happening FYI. I would say that nearly all of my non-political family members were absolutely watching this. I’m not so worried about the morning sessions as that leads to news updates all day and soundbites for the evening news.
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Jun 10, 2022 07:10
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This first hearing met my expectations. Considering the made-for-TV aspect, I’d expect the fifth hearing (or whatever the next-to-last one is) to be the one where the committee drops what they think is their biggest bombshell. I would’ve preferred all the hearings to be in prime time, but nobody ever cares about episodes 2 & 3 in a miniseries.
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@HouseGOP Twitter account is going nuts. They are scrambing. They are shook. Hearing 1 was to lay out what the rest of the loving hearings would cover. This was not their big thing, this was just the syllabus. Class starts Monday morning at 10am with lots of details about how Trump knew he lost, and still launched the Coup. Showing DOJ and us his intent. I dunno who says the hearings are weeks apart. There are like three next week: Mon., Wed., Thu.
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Jun 10, 2022 08:02
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Sounds like it was fun! Is there a highlight reel available somewhere?
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Is there anywhere thats showing the whole thing from earlier? Only finding clips and opinions.
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OgNar posted:Is there anywhere thats showing the whole thing from earlier? The Associated Press link seems to have the full 2 hours. ABC Australia has a good summary of the footage of the event
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Oh nice, didnt even think it would just click over. Thanks
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Now hear me out... I think there might be a case that those specific people who were chanting about hanging your vice president while they violently forced their way into the seat of government might have wanted to do a coup. Don't want to stick my neck out or anything
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Tucker Fishman - Jan 6th - "A forgetably minor outbreak of violence by recent standards." https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1535087937628643349
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To that end, they also edited footage E. Revenant posted:https://twitter.com/mannyfidel/status/1535091397614870539?s=20&t=OG-jWnpoOne1y35dHM-8vw
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LegionAreI posted:Things I want to see: https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1535099832486006797?s=21&t=Iutw4OwXOl4mTzmerTVV4A Might not have been able to get anyone to advertise during it. I know in the past though when that’s happened theye just run internal ads.
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Here's the video that was shown with previously unseen footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3_O91gyj9o So...should I just leave this thread here or start a new one for the next hearing?
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BiggerBoat posted:Here's the video that was shown with previously unseen footage Leave this here, and put the date/time of the next hearing in the thread title.
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I can't get over how many white Antifa plants they got to pull that thing off
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BiggerBoat posted:Here's the video that was shown with previously unseen footage Keep it here, easier to keep track of. Thanks!
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Ok so while we have time before Monday's hearing I want to talk about Cheney's hair. Yeah, stupid, I know, but we all understand that every tiny detail of these things are completely intentional and have some driving intention behind them. Somebody styled her hair like this on purpose to help the messaging. But I don't know that I get it. Cheney's hair swooped down the right side of her face. It basically built a divider, blinding her from seeing Thomas to her right. The left side was pinned back. What subversive message are they aiming for where she speaks without being able to see Thomas? Is it a message of "I'm not with him, these are my independent views"?
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It's her usual haircut.
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Apparently simply posting updates about this on Truth Social is enough to get you banned.
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Flying-PCP posted:Apparently simply posting updates about this on Truth Social is enough to get you banned. Some truth.
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Flying-PCP posted:Apparently simply posting updates about this on Truth Social is enough to get you banned. It's a free speech platform, what did you expect? Not to get censored?!
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Flying-PCP posted:Apparently simply posting updates about this on Truth Social is enough to get you banned. What happened to free speech?
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Dr. Faustus posted:@HouseGOP Twitter account is going nuts. They are scrambing. They are shook. Right. This opening hearing did a couple of things. 1. It clearly stated that Trump committed a coup and that planning for the coup started in November, it was not spontaneous or just people acting on their own 2. It clearly set out that Trump knew his claims were false and his staff and supported knew they were false from the beginning 3. It clearly stated that Trump refused his duty as president during the attack 4. It clearly stated that the attack was violent and Trump knew it was violent and it was not just tourists 5. It clearly stated that the attack was premeditated with planning starting from a trump tweet that immediately followed a secret planning meeting with crazy people That was the agenda and summary, we will see the detailed evidence in the hearings over the next weeks with enough bombshells to capture headlines, followed up by a big closing statement/presentation at the end.
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Automata 10 Pack posted:the point of this is to pin everything on trump and the dumb militia larpers and clean the rest of the currently active, non-scapegoat republican politicians of blame. because of bipartisanship or whatever.
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