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Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

I'm actually not seeing how he slithers out of this.

'Ah, nevertheless...' is still lurking.

I think his best bet is stalling as hard as he can and praying the next President pardons him before he sees federal prison.

Of course Trump wants that next President to be Trump, but if he loses the GOP nomination to (say) De Santis, he would be ill placed to run as a third party - the price of a pardon would likely be lockstep support by Trump of the GOP candidate, no?

# ¿ Sep 1, 2022 07:51

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 17:33

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Anyone here understand federal sentencing guidelines enough to explain what minimum/maximum sentencing is for the charges listed?

Particularly interested in minimums.

Ah 18 USC s 793

Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Sep 1, 2022

# ¿ Sep 1, 2022 07:55

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

BigBallChunkyTime posted:

Who among us doesnt have at least a few Top Secret documents scattered around our house?

I was cleaning the other day and found four just in my living room.

Look out the front window, wave at the Party Van men

# ¿ Sep 2, 2022 21:09

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Well it's in the south so you might have expected 3/5

# ¿ Oct 6, 2022 05:32

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Horny is haram

# ¿ Oct 14, 2022 07:05

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Someone post the Romney death-stare pic. Some of them knew full well who caused it.

# ¿ Oct 27, 2022 15:46

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selec posted:

I just don’t see how a guy who used to work in a court that was under threat of military invasion if it ever tried to prosecute a U.S. service member has credibility to say they can prosecute a former president.

Is this supposed to be logical or intelligible somehow? Its a total non-sequitur.

# ¿ Nov 19, 2022 00:18

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Charlz Guybon posted:

Does the congress even have that granular level of control over department spending?

Generally yes

"No money appropriated by this Congress shall be used to fund X."

# ¿ Nov 19, 2022 09:09

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Failed Imagineer posted:

The dogs are no questions the best Bidens

Hunter Bidens got quite a hog, mind you

# ¿ Nov 20, 2022 22:33

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Herstory Begins Now posted:

or more appropriately in the case of hens, a coup de tete

je te donnerai un coup de poing

# ¿ Dec 14, 2022 11:57

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Chonky boy in back

# ¿ Dec 19, 2022 19:41

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Fritz the Horse posted:

dunno why we're veering off into Gen X chat in this, the Jan 6th hearings thread

Probably because the Jan 6 Committee is disbanded

# ¿ Jan 11, 2023 18:56

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/20/marines-charged-jan6-capitol/

quote:

Three active-duty Marines with intelligence jobs charged in January. 6 breach

Rare arrests of active U.S. military members highlight challenge of policing extremist ideologies in the ranks
By Spencer S. Hsu and Alex Horton
January 20, 2023 at 5:02 p.m. EST

Three active duty members of the Marine Corps assigned to intelligence-related jobs, including one at the National Security Agency headquarters in Maryland, have been charged with participating in the Jan. 6, 2021, breach of the U.S. Capitol, according to court filings unsealed Thursday and military service records.

Cpl. Micah Coomer, Sgt. Joshua Abate and Sgt. Dodge Dale Hellonen were arrested Tuesday and Wednesday near Camp Pendleton, Calif., Fort Meade, Md., and Camp Lejeune, N.C., respectively, and appeared in local federal courts.

Someone's career just ended.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2023 15:15

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

ephori posted:

It's only 'hanged' if it's from the Nuremburg region in Germany.

Otherwise it's Old Sparky-ing time

# ¿ Feb 3, 2023 08:02

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AsInHowe posted:

That's a lot of espionage!

And that's terrible.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2023 12:14

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Lordy, there *are* tapes.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2023 15:26

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Xand_Man posted:

I think that's a reasonable consensus

We're prepared to stipulate.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2023 08:54

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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:

T just filing one line lawsuits these days: "Godwin's Law, checkmate libs".

Quirk's Exception.

# ¿ Jul 29, 2023 20:48

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A new sort of Dear Richard letter

# ¿ Jul 29, 2023 22:26

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Prez can't pardon state crimes in NY and GA.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2023 05:40

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

This posted yet?

Chesebro asks for expedited trial, Wilis agrees, offers to start ALL trials Oct 23, court agrees to start Chesebro's trial Oct 23.

link

# ¿ Aug 27, 2023 22:10

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lilljonas posted:

To get some perspective, 17 years without parole is just short of what you’d be looking at for a murder in the first degree sentence here in Sweden (”sentence for life”, i.e minimum 18 years).

Minimum 25 years before parole in Canada.

Of course they could declare you a Dangerous Offender and keep you imprisoned at His Majesty's pleasure.

# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 21:57

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Show that to the judge stat. Resentencing is a thing.

# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 20:43

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

self-executing:

(law) Needing no legislation to enforce it.

2003, Ruben E. Agpalo, Statutory Construction, page 467 posted:

The general rule is that constitutional provisions are self-executing, except when the provisions themselves expressly require legislations to implement them […]

# ¿ Sep 7, 2023 06:44

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Plus hasn't Trump been *deafeningly* silent about Clark's claim Trump ordered him to do the stuff?

He gave others some sort of support, iirc. But Clark? Nada.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2023 19:25

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Trump didn't *REQUEST* a jury.

# ¿ Oct 4, 2023 17:55

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Jail him on what grounds?

# ¿ Oct 17, 2023 03:43

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

https://www.youtube.com/live/bHTz__OGYVo?si=qY4vqwTauKI320CR

By gawd there's tapes

# ¿ Oct 19, 2023 17:13

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Many prosecutors are saying this.

# ¿ Oct 20, 2023 12:55

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

"Yeah I have a GF but she's from Long Island so you can't meet her."
"Ok, that's good of you to mention."

# ¿ Nov 13, 2023 09:49

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OneEightHundred posted:

The decision was that the wording of the 14th Amendment made an oopsie and says that you're not allowed to hold office if you engaged in insurrection after taking an oath of office as a whole bunch of things, but that whole bunch of things forgot to include the presidency because the POTUS isn't an "officer."

So basically if he had held any other official position in his life he'd have been barred but because he's only ever been President it's fine.

Yikes.

If that's a correct interpretation of the Amendment I don't think it applies to the office of President at *all*?

# ¿ Nov 18, 2023 11:42

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Deteriorata posted:

Herbert Hoover. He'd been Secretary of Commerce, but hadn't held any electoral position prior to becoming President.

"This oath is also taken by the Vice President, members of the Cabinet, federal judges and all other civil and military officers and federal employees other than the President."

Hoover had to swear as an officer of the United States.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2023 17:52

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The President is basically the elected King. Everyone else works for him.

# ¿ Nov 19, 2023 07:03

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smackfu posted:

If you were wondering what was up with the NY civil trial, closing arguments are next week on Jan 11.

# ¿ Jan 5, 2024 19:48

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Peanut Butler posted:

if she venerates babbitt, drop like bad habit
if she venerates bobbitt, yer losin' yer knobhead

# ¿ Jan 7, 2024 13:09

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Raenir Salazar posted:

It's still incredibly amusing to me that in Canada where we had a similar set of circumstances, the unrest was brought to an end basically instantly and decisively the moment they brought in French cops.

Les Boubou Macoutes

# ¿ Jan 8, 2024 19:21

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dr_rat posted:

Two dozen or so old fat geezers in cameo gear would of been treated very differently if they had come to try and break into congress by themselves.

Word up!

# ¿ Jan 10, 2024 06:46

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Deteriorata posted:

Trump ordered to pay New York Times nearly $400k in legal fees for ‘frivolous’ lawsuit

A taster as we wait for the big decisions. Nice.

# ¿ Jan 12, 2024 22:45

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mobby_6kl posted:

Joe Tacopina out of Trum's defense team in NYC

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/15/us/politics/tacopina-trump-lawyer.html

Adios, Joe Tapioca

# ¿ Jan 15, 2024 18:52

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 17:33

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Kaplan is taking no poo poo in the Carroll trial.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/trump-defamation-trial/?id=106403966#106450941

'You can't control yourself,' judge admonishes Trump

At the lunch break, Judge Lewis Kaplan threatened to boot former President Trump from the courtroom if he continues to make side comments within earshot of the jury.

The warning came after E. Jean Carroll's attorney Shawn Crowley complained for a second time about Trump's comments.

"The defendant has been making statements that we can hear at counsel table," she said, quoting Trump as saying, "It is a witch hunt" and "It really is a con job." When a video of Trump disparaging E. Jean Carroll was played for the court, Crowley said Trump remarked, "It's true."

Judge Kaplan, in response, addressed the defense from the bench.

"Mr. Trump has the right to be present here. That right can be forfeited and it can be forfeited if he is disruptive, which is what has been reported to me," the judge said. "Mr. Trump, I hope I don't have to consider excluding you from the trial."

"I understand you are probably very eager for me to do that," the judge added, to which Trump threw his up his arms and said, "I would love it, I would love it."

"I know you would, because you can't control yourself in this circumstance," Kaplan replied. "You just can't."

Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Jan 17, 2024

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