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nine-gear crow posted:God, they're gonna show Ashlee Babbit get capped live and uncensored as a part of this montage, aren't they? Fingers crossed (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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syntaxrigger posted:What is the over/under on how long before Cheney burns any of the good will she gains in these hearings? I don't expect either of them to win re-election in their respective states. But it's a small price to pay for them for doing the right thing.
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Rigel posted:Given that Democrats are in charge of the committee, there is no political upside to a criminal referral from the committee. If the DOJ did charge, it could look like they were politically pressured into it. If the DOJ did not charge, it would make Biden's administration look bad for ignoring it. They should just refer the drat thing to the DOJ because it doesn't matter, Trump and the fascist media apparatus are going to call it a Democrat witch hunt anyway.
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Jun 14, 2022 04:08
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Dr. Faustus posted:The DOJ is absolutely going to charge Trump. Trump is the target of the DOJ probe, and Garland is going to get him. They have the crime, all the participants, and today they proved intent. He is turbo-hosed and eventually even the most jaded will see it. You sound like so many others did during the Mueller investigation.
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Jun 14, 2022 06:19
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Herstory Begins Now posted:okay who is going to pull a bill barr this time, also what does it mean that bill barr is actually cooperating this time Merrick Garland. He's probably going to lean heavily on the fact that's there no precedent to this and stick to  I feel like some of you haven't been burned enough by all the other times Trump was supposed to finally pay for his crimes.
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I honestly think the DOJ will be too afraid of civil unrest to go through with any indictment of Trump.
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Oracle posted:What you mean civil unrest like 30 armed white supremacists attempting to start a riot? Maybe some mass shootings? Is the murder rate going to skyrocket? You don't have to convince me that we are already seeing way too much white supremacist violence in the country. But I think we will see an explosion of violence and unrest from all the various brownshirt groups if Trump gets indicted. I think the DOJ knows this too and while I personally think they should not factor it in to any decision to indict I'm worried they will.
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Jun 14, 2022 07:36
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:What does this "explosion of violence" look like? Because I don't think there are enough of them to riot (even 1/6 took a ton of organizing and active goading from Trump himself) and nothing would drat the whole maga movement faster than literal terrorism (and these groups don't strike me as being able to pull this off too well without getting caught beforehand). I think it would be the latter, which is already happening but I think it could get way worse. I mean we are taking about a former president that convinced thousands of rubes to potentially throw their life away for him by storming the capitol over a complete lie. He's a god to these psychos. If he gets indicted these people will lose their minds. They don't even need to be all that organized they will just attack targets of opportunity. LGBTQ events, Democratic party offices, Planned Parenthoods etc. But gently caress it, the DOJ needs to not be scared about the what ifs and make an example of Trump for future presidents that want to subvert the democratic system.
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Jun 14, 2022 09:22
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BiggerBoat posted:The 90's were pretty great - or at least seemed like it. Jobs in my field were pretty available and paid OK. They'd give me end of year bonuses and poo poo. Things seemed relatively affordable and poo poo that was out of your reach felt doable and obtainable. True, though, it could just be my age at the time and before the weight of the world came crashing down and I had a kid and poo poo and sometimes things got tough but I don't recall this general malaise, pressure and total sense of hopelessness that permeates everything now. I was a teenager in the 90s so obviously my recollections are all clouded by weed. And you don't even know you're in the "good times" until they are gone. But compared to today, holy hell it was the good times. The US was quite literally on top of the world at that point. The cold war was over, Russia was an economic basket case and basically no threat to anyone, China had not yet exploded economically, and while you could see the beginnings of the jihad that would define the early years of the 21st century it wasn't until 9/11 that it shook the country to it's core. The worst domestic scandal in the US was the president lying about getting a BJ. Do you know how quaint that seems compared to a president that literally tried to overturn an election and have his brownshirts storm the capital? In some ways I'm envious of anyone that was born in the last 20 years. They just don't know how much better things were. It's painful to see things how they are because I remember for like half my life not being this worried.
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I think it was really dumb to have only the first hearing at prime time and then the rest at 130pm EST. If they are trying to get the American people to pay attention to this then putting it on while 99% of people are at work was a bad idea. At best some folks will get the 5 minute sound bites of the hearings long after they have ended but that's just not going to have the same impact. They did such a good job with the opening hearing not only in airing it prime time but also with how they decided to present it. It was a much more digestable hearing for normal folks. They should have just kept doing it that way.
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Dr. Faustus posted:
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Jun 16, 2022 00:34
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BiggerBoat posted:Right, HE DOES, but I just meant it would probably have leaked by now. I don't see what sort of blowback or fear he'd have from testifying though, for the reasons I outlined. MAGA's already hate him. Doesn't seem like he did anything wrong or illegal (which is why they hate him). Trump cant hurt him I don't think. Unless he got up to some poo poo unrelated and Donald can out him somehow. He's probably well aware of various facets of illegal plotting to overthrow the election. Remember he didn't become persona non grata to the maga crowd until he refused to not count the votes on Jan 6. I'm sure he was plenty involved in nefarious poo poo before then. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was very wary of testifying.
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I think this guy might be just trying to run out the clock.
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mdemone posted:There is no way this ends without Tump indicted. Surely this time he'll face the consequences of his actions!
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Danger posted:Benghazi is a wild example because the state department an CIA were literally running guns to isis there. Expert damage control. You might want to provide a source for that. Also ISIS didn't even exist in Libya in 2012
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Jun 17, 2022 02:26
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Dr. Faustus posted:I am terrified to speak it aloud lest I accidentally make it impossible. But Ginni Thomas saying she WANTS to go before the Committee and "clear up misconceptions" is a thing I desire with burning intensity. She is bug-gently caress insane and I wish to witness her attempt to sound reasonable in her answers to the committees questions. I hope she testifies too but unfortunately as the wife of a supreme court justice I doubt it will matter.
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Judge Schnoopy posted:This is great though, right? It splits the Republican vote between those who understand trump is a grifting criminal and those who believe he's the puppet master. Surely that has to hurt the numbers just enough to lose the next election, right? Narrator: "Those who understand Trump is a grifting criminal" voted for him anyway.
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Jun 21, 2022 04:59
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Murgos posted:This tells you that 24% of the country doesn't have a loving clue if they are liberal or conservative. So for us terminally online types it's pretty insane to think there are people like that but you have to remember there are tons of people in the US that are just completely totally disconnected from the world of politics and world events. In a way I kind of envy them. It must be great going through life not knowing that American democracy is hanging on by a thread and probably has about a couple years before it's gone, or that the pandemic is not actually over by a long shot, or there's a horrible war in Ukraine that is killing thousands etc. Like lots of people just straight up don't *know* this stuff. They never watch or read the news. I know people like this. One of them is basically the happiest person I know but she's dumb as a rock. She and her kids got covid pretty early on in the pandemic and a year later she didn't even know a vaccine was available. I told her she should probably get it because she literally never wears a mask and she asked me how much it costs  So yeah it's not hard to imagine some people don't know if they are liberal or conservative. They might not even have much of a grasp of what those labels mean.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Wait was that the same guy from the Mueller stuff? Ok so I thought the same thing like drat this guy aged RAPIDLY. As it turns out it's not the same guy. You're thinking of Rod Rosenstein. He's the DOJ guy that started the Mueller investigation.
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Jun 24, 2022 08:40
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I hope that documentary film becomes Trump's equivalent of Nixon's recorded phone calls during Watergate.
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Jun 28, 2022 02:27
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Apparently the Senate Sergeant at Arms in charge of security on Jan 6th has been found dead. No cause of death has been announced yet https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...urce=reddit.com
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Dr. Faustus posted:You know no matter what actually happened they will try to Seth Rich this all to hell. It'll be Clinton/Biden/Obama did it. I believe he is 69 years old? So he could have died from natural causes 
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Abisteen posted:Do we know if they have subpoenaed or deposed the secret service guy? There's probably some kind of executive privilege thing that would prevent this but I could be wrong (I often am).
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Im sure the 5 chuds that are actually listening to this were jumping for joy when they heard Trump tried to choke out his secret service detail. But also, it's all a witch-hunt lie.
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Edward Mass posted:It's all they got. It's all they need unfortunately.
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Jaxyon posted:lol trump only has like two defenses Trump's entire persona is that of a wannabe mafioso. I'm sure decades of dealing with the actual mafia in the NYC construction business left a mark on him.
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-Blackadder- posted:Trump is done. Im sure this post will age well.
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Jun 28, 2022 20:02
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Trump just got these monsters the overturning of Roe vs Wade they wanted for decades. They don't give a gently caress about democracy they are completely supercharged right now that they are finally going to get the theocracy they wanted all along. Trump is an absolute shoe in for the nomination if he runs again and if he does he stands a strong chance of winning because like usual the Dems are asleep at the wheel. I don't know why anyone thinks these hearing will sway people who are already truly evil to their core.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:no one thinks it will sway trump die-hards. more significantly though: trump diehards are not a big enough number to win the election. even 2020 trump was a 5-10 point liability over generic R Who even is a "generic R" these days? And even if a few of them still exist they will pull the lever for R in 2022/2024 no matter who the nominee is.
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ryde posted:I'm sorry but "gas is $5 and things were better under Trump" is not a take that inspires confidence in the average American voter's ability to understand the issues. The average American doesn't care about the issues beyond the price of gas and how well the economy is doing. The average Americans line of thinking is "Hurr durr economy better 3 years ago. Gas prices lower 3 years ago. Me vote for guy that was in charge back then". And that's it. That's why Republicans are a million times better at messaging than Dems because they are completely aware of how braindead the average American is.
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Xiahou Dun posted:I've been trying to remember a Trump-lawyer thing that happened way back at the beginning of his presidency and it's killing me that I can't find it/it's a bit hard to google, because unless I'm losing my mind it was an actual thing and not vague rumor bullshit. Maybe it was when he was interviewing people to replace Comey as the head of the FBI? I think he even interviewed Mueller for the job. Edit: Oops beaten by others Charliegrs fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Jun 30, 2022 |
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Dr. Faustus posted:I look at this the way I think SidneyIsTheKiller is saying. Trump has always operated like a Mafia Don. I highly doubt he has ever so blatantly verbalized his crimes like that.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:It was 84. Reagan didn't run in 88. So 84 probably means Heil Donald to these wackos
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Re: Deleted Secret Service texts. Even though they are deleted are they really gone for good? I'm not sure if it was just standard SMS texts like normal people use but doesn't the mobile carrier keep a copy of all that? And if so can't the Jan 6 Committee just subpoena those records?
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Failed Imagineer posted:The NSA has literally all those texts, and all your texts, stored in a supermassive relational database Yeah I pretty much figured that. So I guess the bigger story is that the Secret Service deleted (LOL if they didn't know what you just said about the NSA) the texts and not so much that they will be irretrievable.
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Oh hey look new posts in the Jan 6th thread maybe there's some new relevant info to see. Oh it's mostly Hunter Biden crap...
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Jarmak posted:Potentially, but this is much simpler: there are federal laws governing record preservation that don't require secondary criminality. That's what the national archives announced they're now investigating. I've brought this up before but why doesn't the committee just subpoena whatever mobile carrier the USSS uses to get the text records that way?
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Murgos posted:Hunter Biden has a Yale Law Degree. Oh wow that's amazing so yeah this has what to do with the January 6 coup attempt?
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