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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Murgos posted:

I had a thought a minute ago.

There is enough evidence out there of Trump committing crimes that a judge has ruled that it’s probable he’s guilty.

This is way beyond what the FBI would need for a wire tap. Heck, there was enough information public for a wire tap of Trump on Jan 03.

Someone please tell me that there are recordings of Trump in private for at least the last few months. If not longer. Please.

"on what grounds are you requesting this subpoena" "your honor, it would be tremendous content"

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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16-bit Butt-Head posted:

loling that there was an entire documentary crew filming crimes

there were two, but the one in the white house is much funnier than the one embedded with the proud boys

fake edit: three if you count the one attached to alex jones, which i do not think i do

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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admin tyranny strikes again

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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yeah as far as I can tell Trump accidentally hired a competent not-total-toadie for WH counsel, which now that the guy did his job may not be good for Trump

(he almost certainly got the job because he's in good with Bill Barr, who is as we all know a tremendous sleazeball but was not interested in getting tangled up with no-poo poo sedition)

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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if you have at least three brain cells to bang together you don't really WANT a yes man as white house counsel, because as is being demonstrated one of the two main responsibilities of their job is saying "no this is a proposal that is definitely illegal and people will go to jail"

Trump has never met a lawyer he listens to, not even me, so,

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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back to the Sideshow Bob Defense I see

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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mobby_6kl posted:

If an organization is really corrupt then yeah it might be worthwhile just firing everyone and starting over. That said I'd wait for an investigation of what exactly happened there. We don't really have anything 100% clear other than that some messages haven't been found (yet).

The pants, but on the second thought, let me clarify that this does not constitute a legal promise to perform the act and was merely a figure of speech.

*sighs and closes the toxxes drawer*

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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BiggerBoat posted:

I guess because whenever I feel like I've angered someone or upset them, my first inclination is to figure out why and attempt to explain myself instead of just immediately writing them off. I try to seek out clarity when I communicate and attempt to understand the ways by which not everyone views things the way I do.

Or I'm just a big pussy pushover who apologizes all the time whenever someone gets bent out of shape.

Maybe both.

it's probably the first one, don't feel bad

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Neverhoping on this most holy of all days? Shame on you. :mad:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Xiahou Dun posted:

So can I get like a piggy back ride or something out of this or...?

when I get home I'll think up a suitable prize

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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mdemone posted:

Heheheh. Yes, Mr. Jones. Indeed.

his evil little chuckle was truly amazing

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Dick Trauma posted:

The punitive phase could see him hit much harder, and I think he has at least two more Sandy Hook defamation trials pending.

I had totally forgotten till today that Connecticut has 8 plaintiffs rather than 2, so even setting aside Connecticut's more generous damages laws, that alone multiplies Number some.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Trump is screaming about it on Not Twitter so

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Uglycat posted:

in a 6-3 decision, the supreme court will rule that it's 'cruel and unusual punishment' (on account of his large body and weak neck) to hang trump from the neck until dead

bloodlust aside, this is literally what hanging charts are for

slightly premodern / early modern societies decided to scientifically figure out how to not strangle hanged people to death (inhumane) or pop their heads off from the drop (very humane, not necessarily ideal for the audience or the janitors)

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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I have an oddly specific dislike of Iran et al executing people by crane because motherfuckers they worked out the math on how to hang people humanely in like 1500

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Randalor posted:

Either that, or they seized the passports after the raid because they determined that he's probably going to try to flee. Can passports be deauthorized without the need to have the physical passport?

yes, but there are slightly more potential holes to wriggle through than if you don't have one

obviously they're all illegal and, speaking from experience, I wouldn't try any of them if I weren't already facing federal felony charges

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Herstory Begins Now posted:

https://customcritical.fedex.com/us/services/market-industry/government.shtml

https://customcritical.fedex.com/us/help/gov/tpshelp.shtml

looks like fedex can provide some pretty secure service, but yeah that was definitely an offer to make it as easy as humanly possible

"so, what do you do for a living?" "oh, I just deliver FedEx packages, in an armored car, with a two-car security escort"

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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BigBallChunkyTime posted:

In a 6-3 decision....

I am unclear what you think this meme adds to the discussion.

There are no justices who are slavish zombies for Donald Trump, and there aren't actually that many who are slavish zombies for the Republican Party. Slavish zombies for the federalist society are more common but not QUITE the same thing.

This appeal is basically nonsense and it's nonsense in a way that is unlikely to appeal to the sensibilities of six justices. Even Alito, arguably the worst justice on the court, is going to be confronted with the conflict between "help Trump" and "never, under any circumstances, give the slightest assistance or credence to anyone the cops suspect of a crime".

E: on a related "it's not as simple as making a 6-3 decision shitpost" topic, https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1576931875670614018

Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Oct 4, 2022

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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oh dear

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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we are done with this line of discussion THANK YOU GOODBYE

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Automatic Slim posted:

Is Bannon going to serve the whole four months or get out in two for good behavior?

Regular ol contempt of court is exempt from good behavior stuff iirc (because they're not correcting the actual behavior that landed them in the clink), one assumes contempt of Congress is too but so few people are jailed for it that it might be a novel question, lol.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Charlz Guybon posted:

That bribery decision was 9-0? WTF :psyduck:

meetings and events and other gentle leans do not qualify as an official act quid pro quo, basically

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Uglycat posted:

Hey guys, just popping in to ask if trump has cleared all his legal hurdles and completely gotten away with everything fully exonerated to be remembered throughout history as stable and bigly and compared favorably to cincinattus yet

uglycat, you're a forums treasure, but please settle down

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Xiahou Dun posted:

If I was like a Bond villain or whatever, the first thing I’d do is hire Roger Stone, give him a budget for bribes and henchman, and then tell him to stay as far away from my plans as possible because that dude is just a bunch of red flags that collapsed into a black hole of skullduggery.

never trust a man who willingly wears a top hat if his surname is not Norton

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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I guess I've just given Ed a pass to be a supervillain but eh, he's cute

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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PainterofCrap posted:

Now I see him knocking on MTG's door in the middle of the night to ask if he can move in to her guest bedroom.

if she injected him with phyrexian oil, how could we tell

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Cimber posted:

So, whats the over/under on the judge slapping Trump with gag order as soon as he's arraigned on Tuesday? 5 minutes? more or less.

With the indictment still sealed I'm even less willing to make confident statements than normal.

otoh it probably won't take him too long to go "this judge is a tyrant hint hint" even if he doesn't go full Alex Jones during the proceedings

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Randalor posted:

Awwwww, I wanted to see the seven-headed beast...

I know the common interpretation is that it was talking about Nero and Rome, it's just more amusing to assume that it's being literal, so as long as a big gently caress-off hydra never appears, we're safe!

move over, red heifer weirdos: i'm breeding me a big fuckoff hydra

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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cr0y posted:

Legally it doesn't matter, he didn't declassify poo poo because declassification is an official process with like you know paperwork and other very official things that are very easy to prove.

I don't get to argue that my taxes are filed because I printed out my W2 and "filed" it in a box.

brb, contacting my accountant about an urgent matter

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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it's such a tiny thing compared to the pile of his other misdeeds that is roughly the size of new jersey, but it kinda makes me sad that he damaged the historical record by being a dumb greedy rear end in a top hat

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Fuschia tude posted:

No, the sexpest is still hosting OA to this very day. The other guy was the one who got ousted because the sexpest decided to execute a hostile takeover of his partnership.

still bummed about this, but well, the man decided to couple an apology that could very well have worked in a vacuum - people with alcohol problems do dumb poo poo, seeking treatment and apologizing to everyone he hurt was a great first step - with stealing Thomas' half of the podcast and then being real lovely about it all, so I have very little benefit of the doubt left in me for Andrew Torres

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Ynglaur posted:

Holy poo poo. I can only imagine the amount of scrambling done in a bunch of federal agencies these past several months once they realized the scope of this breach.

I know a guy who works in nonproliferation doing things he often can't talk about and my God to be a fly on his bathroom wall when he learns about trump's bathroom walls being boxes of documents

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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VideoGameVet posted:

More than that, it's not the reason at all. It's an excuse. I stick by my assertion on the reasons why

yeah i'm not gonna knock a man for reading the indictment and/or discussing it briefly with donald trump, and then immediately diving into the river to flee the country

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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CapnAndy posted:

I don't believe that, and here's why: He knows Nixon got $18 million for his classified documents.

He knows that. It's a fact that's actually been retained in his dementia-riddled, destroyed by strokes, functionally illiterate, low capacity brain.That means it's extremely important to him.

I think the high probability bet is that he heard about that payout at some point, his mind latched onto it, and he got it fixed in his head that "classified documents = money", and from there you figure that with inflation, and also how Nixon is a sucker and got a bad deal (because everyone who isn't him is a sucker) but as a business genius he'll be able to get a much better one... I think he expected he'd be able to hold them for a few years, stonewall the requests, and then when the government came begging, make a big beautiful deal for the documents, the best deal, other presidents have been treated very unfairly but we'll get a really good deal won't we folks

i think you're absolutely dead on about Donald Trump's thought process

please seek therapy

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Boris Galerkin posted:

Did he get to keep “the beast” as part of his secret service detail?

no, but I wouldn't be especially surprised if his limo or whatever is armored (just less comprehensively and generally less cool)

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Xiahou Dun posted:

I hate to break it to you, but Miami is already inside Florida.

for now


Deteriorata posted:

He has been arrested and is in custody, currently in court. If the magistrate grants bail, he will be released. If denied, he'll be jailed until the trial.

if accurate yadda yadda

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1668700942294818823?s=20

I'd much prefer if he spent time in the pokey before trial but I will accept judicial orders that he has probably already violated

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Name Change posted:

This is basically the Berlusconi/Netanyahu playbook at this point.

yeah and how'd that work out for berlusconi

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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e nm

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Ms Adequate posted:

I wouldn't make a very good juror because I never vite guilty for most crimes on account of being a prison abolitionist, but also because I would absolutely get booted out of the courtroom and held in contempt because I would be trying to get clarification on stuff given as evidence and as witness testimony and stuff. My autistic brain interprets the role as trying to deduce the truth of the situation and I'm far too far gone to accept that I have to work with whatis put before me and that I have to pretend I can and am following fictions like "I instruct the jury to disregard [damning piece of evidence]"

when I was on the jury we had ample opportunity to submit questions

can't help you with wacky disregard statements but they haven't come up for me personally yet

possibly because the only remotely spicy case i sat for was a burglar who cased the house competently but did not successfully notice the camera across the street with a clear and decent resolution view of his van and license plate as he was loading up the loot

we didn't deliberate very long

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Donald Trump has identified a frankly novel legal strategy for espionage trials:



demand the federal government give you back the classified documents you stole

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