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I can only imagine fans of Bernie/Hubert haven’t seen the majesty of Bernie/Jeritza, a somehow even cuter couple.Kanos posted:If you feel sorry for anyone, pity poor Shamir. She joins the Deer but has C support max with literally every single character except Shez. I can only take this to mean she has supports with a bunch of future Deer recruits. Judith/Holst/Nader/Ashen Wolves and maybe Cyril and Alois? I’m assuming most of the church crew goes with the Lions, and the Eagles already called dibs on the professors, so I figure those two probably wind up in Leicester somehow.
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Jeritza does have supports with Edelgard and Hubert, which he really needed in the main game
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Kanos posted:If you feel sorry for anyone, pity poor Shamir. She joins the Deer but has C support max with literally every single character except Shez. Im happy she’s even in the game.
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mandatory lesbian posted:Shez is so cool, and by cool i mean a complete dork Saw a fun idea somewhere on the difference between Byleth and Shez, where Three Houses is how Byleth sees battles - as chess matches that focus on positioning and matching the strength of their different commanders against the enemy's officers. Three Hopes is how Shez sees battles, as chaotic melees with hundreds of dudes pouring in from all sides while they focus on giving the enemy leader the old ba-boom.
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Eimi posted:This is a loving travesty and needs to be resolved asap. Hubert and Bernie have the best support chain and are super cute together! They're legit one of my favorite ships how could they do that? Hubert has an A support with Monica of all people, lmao.
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I wonder if there’s supports that are just missing from the demo. Manuela for example just has a bunch of C-rank supports and many don’t even have conversations. Either she’s getting shafted or the full version might have more supports (I can hardly imagine Manuela gets a bunch of C-A rank supports with unrevealed characters so far)
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Deltasquid posted:I wonder if there’s supports that are just missing from the demo. Manuela for example just has a bunch of C-rank supports and many don’t even have conversations. Either she’s getting shafted or the full version might have more supports (I can hardly imagine Manuela gets a bunch of C-A rank supports with unrevealed characters so far) It's very possible, the new stuff out of the data mining today seems to indicate that there is a recruitment mechanic, and there are characters that can be recruited over from one house to another later in the game, including some but not all of the students. Example Shamir can be recruited by everybody so presumably has more supports not shown, Lysithia can only be recruited by the BE's and will almost certainly support Edelgard, Jeritza can apparently be recruited by the BL's so he probably has supports with Mercedes that aren't currently shown, etc. Also in more data mining news there are a good chunk of characters who appear to be potentially deconfirmed as playable: Rhea Kronya Cornelia Kostas Randolph Judith Nader Arundel Greetje (I think this is Claude's brother from the invasion chapter?) Ladislava A bunch are obvious but some of them are real bummers.
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Sydin posted:Hubert has an A support with Monica of all people, lmao. Of course, they have to compete for the role of Top Edelgard Simp.
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Sydin posted:It's very possible, the new stuff out of the data mining today seems to indicate that there is a recruitment mechanic, and there are characters that can be recruited over from one house to another later in the game, including some but not all of the students. Example Shamir can be recruited by everybody so presumably has more supports not shown, Lysithia can only be recruited by the BE's and will almost certainly support Edelgard, Jeritza can apparently be recruited by the BL's so he probably has supports with Mercedes that aren't currently shown, etc. The criteria used to determine "not playable" seems to indicate Rhea is playable, unless I'm misreading something though, since she has separate head and body sprites, as does Jeralt. Catherine and Cyril also seem to be missing entirely from the spritesheet as well despite Catherine having some spacing indicating her presence elsewhere.
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McTimmy posted:The criteria used to determine "not playable" seems to indicate Rhea is playable, unless I'm misreading something though, since she has separate head and body sprites, as does Jeralt. Catherine and Cyril also seem to be missing entirely from the spritesheet as well despite Catherine having some spacing indicating her presence elsewhere. Rhea is listed under the media tab as having a merged sprite, and I don't see a face sprite for Rhea under the model tab, just MC036_RheaA_0_P_Body. Catherine also has a face model under the same tab - MC032_CatherineA_0_P_Face - and appears to be confirmed playable in BL only.
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Sydin posted:Rhea is listed under the media tab as having a merged sprite, and I don't see a face sprite for Rhea under the model tab, just MC036_RheaA_0_P_Body. Catherine also has a face model under the same tab - MC032_CatherineA_0_P_Face - and appears to be confirmed playable in BL only. Ah, that's it, I was looking at the map sprites, not the art sprites. (And when I was looking in the data days ago I didn't spot anything from Catherine/Cyril and so on). Rhea does have a separate head and body model sprite in the map sprites like the confirmed PCs do. McTimmy fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Jun 11, 2022 |
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Billy Kametz, Ferdinand's voice actor, has sadly passed away due to his cancer. Three Hopes is the last game he was known to work on, and his role as Ferdie is unquestionably a huge part of what made the character so loveable. Cancer loving sucks, man.
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Terper posted:Billy Kametz, Ferdinand's voice actor, has sadly passed away due to his cancer. Three Hopes is the last game he was known to work on, and his role as Ferdie is unquestionably a huge part of what made the character so loveable. Wow he only got diagnosed a month and a half ago, what the gently caress. Only 35 too, jesus. 
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Terper posted:Billy Kametz, Ferdinand's voice actor, has sadly passed away due to his cancer. Three Hopes is the last game he was known to work on, and his role as Ferdie is unquestionably a huge part of what made the character so loveable. Oh god that's so awful. He was so young.
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Sydin posted:Wow he only got diagnosed a month and a half ago, what the gently caress. Technically he only went public with the diagnosis a month and a half ago. It's possible he'd been living with it for a while already, maybe even likely if the reason for going public was because he knew there wasn't much time left. gently caress cancer. E: Hits different now  :https://katribou.tumblr.com/post/187342188323/my-pal-and-fesh-pince-scholar-funkadacious-had Cattail Prophet fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jun 11, 2022 |
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Tired Moritz posted:I just want to grind because of my lizard brain This
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Terper posted:Billy Kametz, Ferdinand's voice actor, has sadly passed away due to his cancer. Three Hopes is the last game he was known to work on, and his role as Ferdie is unquestionably a huge part of what made the character so loveable. This is such a huge bummer, he’s so young, it’s tragic. He’s excellent as Ferdie, that sort of character could easily be so grating that you hate them but he brings such an earnestness to it that sets him apart from Lorentz and Sylvain who also have their nobility as large parts of their character but express it in very different ways.
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That's horrible. I only know him from Three Houses, but the earnestness was what made Ferdinand work. Rest in peace.
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Haven't played the game yet so only here to say that I named my cat after Ferdinand and I am so, so sad. And the cat won't even cuddle with me, too busy and stupid. Billy will be so missed, what an incredibly tragic loss.
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Terper posted:Billy Kametz, Ferdinand's voice actor, has sadly passed away due to his cancer. Three Hopes is the last game he was known to work on, and his role as Ferdie is unquestionably a huge part of what made the character so loveable. Aww man that's awful. He was so great. Always get screened, folks.
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Rip. Knew his prognosis would be awful but wasn't expecting it that quickly
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Cattail Prophet posted:Technically he only went public with the diagnosis a month and a half ago. It's possible he'd been living with it for a while already, maybe even likely if the reason for going public was because he knew there wasn't much time left. Yeah, true enough. Stage 4 colon is really bad, the usual prognosis is around 14% survival rate five years from diagnosis. It's not quite the doctor looking at you and saying "you're dead" but it's about as close as you can get otherwise. Cattail Prophet posted:gently caress cancer. 
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Kanos posted:Yeah mages are super good. You have great range variability on your moves and tons of fantastic AoE, and the class skill is a death machine gun that absolutely murders stun meters. I find that even with Marianne's unique action, the Priest Moveset still pushes people a bit too far, but yeah, she might be manageable as a Priest. Also, you want to take each character through their preferred classes because the Combat Arts and Spells that you learn through a character's pref class can also be taught to others through that character. Shez can teach a character Windsweep, Lorenz can teach a character Frozen Lance, Claude can teach a character Break Shot, etc. Terper posted:Billy Kametz, Ferdinand's voice actor, has sadly passed away due to his cancer. Three Hopes is the last game he was known to work on, and his role as Ferdie is unquestionably a huge part of what made the character so loveable. May his soul rest in peace.
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one downside of this game is it seems like characters don't get their special A-move unless they're in their intended class, which means you can't experiment too much because otherwise you dont get cool and/or funny poo poo like thisKittyEmpress posted:Sylvain is one of the most fun characters to play in this. Make him a thief and abuse his 'my range goes up as I get more hits' to clear entire rooms and accidentally guard break people you didn't even see behind you. Also, fun fact: apparently they adjusted the character heights in this game, because "cutscenes outside of 2D backgrounds" means that they can actually move the camera a little bit - in Three Houses, they kinda fudged the heights of some characters by making them float because otherwise they wouldn't show up in frame. Now they don't have to do that! https://twitter.com/_saoas/status/1535526125966725121 This, of course, now shows off just how hilariously tiny Lysithea actually is.  
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lmao that even Edelgard is taller than Caspar pre timeskip
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PsychoInternetHawk posted:It would be extremely wierd for a Warriors game to only allow 1/3 of the cast to play together at a time, so I'm wondering if the NG+ will allow you to pick a different house but access your units from your previous playthrough's house. This statement makes no sense to me because when you pick Wei in Dynasty Warriors you don't ever get to choose or play as Shu or Wu characters, it's all Wei. If anything it would be extremely weird for a Warriors game to allow the entire cast to be playable together. I'm enjoying the demo so far, up to chapter 3 now. It feels a little too easy with how many combat options you have, granted these are the earliest battles in the game, but Shez just seems to mow down enemies without any difficulty whatsoever, Kronya was down in about 20 seconds and the demon beast I only got one armor break on because the Shez/Edel Musou attack did nearly 200k damage and just destroyed it. I am playing on the medium difficulty though and it seems likely this game may be a bit easier than other musou games since they're counting on at least some of the players to not have played a musou game before, Age of Calamity and P5 Strikers kind of did the same thing. I'll probably bump the difficulty up to the highest setting. I thought I'd be okay with not having played Three Houses, since I played through Strikers without having played P5. It doesn't really work here though because Strikers references P5 a lot, to the point where I picked up on things pretty quickly. Plus with Sophia being a new character, things have to get explained to her a lot, and Morgana explains a lot of plot things like how Jails are different from Palaces, and "We should try doing this, because it worked the last time we were in the Metaverse." But since this is an alternate timeline, they can't really reference or explain things because they didn't happen. They definitely expect you to already be up to speed on the story in a way Strikers didn't, like I went Black Eagles and Edelgard and Hubert's conversation after rescuing Monica made no sense to me. Someone on discord was kind enough to explain why Monica being rescued changed things that Edelgard and Hubert had planned, since they now had information that they didn't find out until much later in Three Houses. And before anyone says it, I do want to play Three Houses eventually! Just don't really have the money right now, or a Switch of my own (I'm using my brother's while he's at work for now). It'll probably be a while before I can get to it.
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With confirmation that Marianne can teach the Physic spell to anyone who meets the requirements, I think we can safely say that the majority of skills learned through a character's preferred class is a skill the character will be able to teach another character. I've confirmed that Shez can teach Windsweep, Claude and Ignatz can teach Break Shot, Lorenz can teach Frozen Lance, Lysithea can teach Swarm Z, Marianne can teach Physic, and Leonie can teach Glowing Ember. As a note, these are the skills learned by a character in their preferred class: Shez: Windsweep Edelgard: Shredder Hubert: Mire B Ferdinand: Glowing Ember Linhardt: Physic Caspar: Invigorating Spirit Bernadetta: Drill Arrow Dorothea: Thoron Petra: Shadowblade Dimitri: Frozen Lance Dedue: Lightning Axe Felix: Firesweep Ashe: Drill Arrow Sylvain: Glowing Ember Mercedes: Physic Annette: Cutting Gale Ingrid: Stormblade (Maybe; might be like Point-Blank Volley in that it's considered unteachable due to being something every Pegasus Knight learns) Claude: Break Shot Hilda: Spike Lorenz: Frozen Lance Raphael: Draining Blow Ignatz: Break Shot Lysithea: Swarm Z Marianne: Physic Leonie: Glowing Ember] Manuela: Ward Shamir: Break Shot Jeritza: Glowing Ember Rodrigue: Frozen Lance Monica: Bolganone Those in bold have been confirmed by me.
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Twelve by Pies posted:This statement makes no sense to me because when you pick Wei in Dynasty Warriors you don't ever get to choose or play as Shu or Wu characters, it's all Wei. If anything it would be extremely weird for a Warriors game to allow the entire cast to be playable together. One of the key things in 3 Houses is being able to recruit characters to your house, it’s almost certainly gonna be in here in some aspect given how well they’re adapting the other systems of FE:3H
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Ah okay, I was misreading that statement as "other musou games let you do this, so it would be weird if this one didn't" rather than "3 Houses let you do this, so it would be weird if Three Hopes didn't just because it's a Warriors game."
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Twelve by Pies posted:I'm enjoying the demo so far, up to chapter 3 now. It feels a little too easy with how many combat options you have, granted these are the earliest battles in the game, but Shez just seems to mow down enemies without any difficulty whatsoever, Kronya was down in about 20 seconds and the demon beast I only got one armor break on because the Shez/Edel Musou attack did nearly 200k damage and just destroyed it. I am playing on the medium difficulty though and it seems likely this game may be a bit easier than other musou games since they're counting on at least some of the players to not have played a musou game before, Age of Calamity and P5 Strikers kind of did the same thing. I'll probably bump the difficulty up to the highest setting. Difficulty setting doesn't actually apply until chapter 4. The early chapters are all undertuned by design, no matter the difficulty.
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Twelve by Pies posted:I thought I'd be okay with not having played Three Houses, since I played through Strikers without having played P5. It doesn't really work here though because Strikers references P5 a lot, to the point where I picked up on things pretty quickly. Plus with Sophia being a new character, things have to get explained to her a lot, and Morgana explains a lot of plot things like how Jails are different from Palaces, and "We should try doing this, because it worked the last time we were in the Metaverse." But since this is an alternate timeline, they can't really reference or explain things because they didn't happen. They definitely expect you to already be up to speed on the story in a way Strikers didn't, like I went Black Eagles and Edelgard and Hubert's conversation after rescuing Monica made no sense to me. Someone on discord was kind enough to explain why Monica being rescued changed things that Edelgard and Hubert had planned, since they now had information that they didn't find out until much later in Three Houses. You absolutely should play Three Houses when you get the chance, but judging by the demo, I don't know how much it will matter to have played it first. The demo portion is pretty dedicated to showing how this became an alternate timeline, but I think most of the game will be focused on its own actual story and any Three Houses references will be easter eggs rather than actually necessary to understand what's going on. I think Hubert and Edelgard's shady conversation is even understandable in retrospect once you've played through the chapter. Monica revealing that Tomas is a shapeshifting villain lets them ask the church to support them in attacking some guy in the Empire, who then gets the boot alongside half the government. People who played Three Houses already knew those names and relationships and that helps you read the context, but all you need to know for the sake of Three Hopes is that the regent and prime minister were bad dudes that Edelgard wanted to make a move against, and that she needed some kind of probable cause to get the church and army on her side, which she got from Monica and the evil librarian. This is all shown in the demo. There's a lot of fine detail that gets glossed over, but that is presumably because it is detail you do not need. Judging by what we've seen so far, I wager Three Hopes will tell a story that can stand on its own and doesn't need an entire other video game's worth of story to parse.
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i started the Black Eagles route after finishing basically everything i could in Golden Deer/Blue Lions and goddamn i forgot how much edelgard rules. Shes so good. Her explicitly going after monica and saying "to hell with the careful planning, im taking a gamble to save my friend" has only made her more excellent. Also, hubert, my boy. I also forgot how loving funny it is that he's essentially a loving looming vampire who constantly talks in ominous trailing sentences.
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<element>sweep in general seems absurdly powerful I've been getting free critical rushes out the wazoo with Thief Shez and Windsweep, and I dunno if thief contributes part of it, but it looks to me like the sweep is the big ticket.
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Jon Irenicus posted:lmao that even Edelgard is taller than Caspar pre timeskip Edelgard somehow grew 4cm in this game. She's now 162cm instead of the 158 cm she was in Three Houses, even post timeskip. https://twitter.com/oratoza/status/1535915068591747073
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Eimi posted:Edelgard somehow grew 4cm in this game. She's now 162cm instead of the 158 cm she was in Three Houses, even post timeskip. Her timeskip three houses armor was too heavy and compressed her spine.
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Eimi posted:Edelgard somehow grew 4cm in this game. She's now 162cm instead of the 158 cm she was in Three Houses, even post timeskip. Claude was 175 cm in 3 houses (both pre and after timeskip) and is 177 cm in chapter 4 in three hopes. Maybe a changed diet gave him a growth spurt in this timeline?
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Deltasquid posted:Claude was 175 cm in 3 houses (both pre and after timeskip) and is 177 cm in chapter 4 in three hopes. It's going around. Now we need to find out who else had their height change. 
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