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Thread title should be "Shez!"
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2022 10:03 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 16:03 |
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Jeritza being the third professor instead of Byleth really just solves a lot of issues.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2022 23:47 |
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hosed up we don't get to have him in that role for a full school year.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2022 23:49 |
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Blaziken386 posted:doesnt the opening cutscene of three hopes kind of spoil one of the Big Twists* in three houses? this game seems like its very much expecting you to have obsessively played the first In general game really looks to me like it’s expecting you’ve already played 3 Houses beforehand.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2022 02:57 |
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Its gotta be kinda weird being introduced to the characters through this game and not 3 houses. Game kinda blows right past getting to know everyone to get right into wartime plot shenanigans.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2022 00:39 |
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The game is definitely leveraging its spinoff vibes and counting on you to bring your knowledge from 3H over to sell the old characters and hoping you'll overlook it as it brushes through everything to get to the new timeskip status quo in only 2 hours.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2022 12:05 |
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Sydin posted:When you kick Thales out of the Empire in CB there's some battle/map dialogue where he says "wait, are you...?" to Shez but then brushes it off, which is the closest we get to any of the slithers seeming to recognize Shez. My guess is that Arval is definitely something they made (an attempt at a fake Sothis?) but that their being implanted in Shez is not their doing. Also Shez doesn't have like amnesia or anything and in supports will talk about their past and how they were raised by their mom. Shez was adopted and didn't know their birth parents. So its very easy to imagine them as escaped Agarthan experiment person. Kinda the same deal with Byleth.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2022 23:10 |
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Mokinokaro posted:The Eagles characters are great but their route is dominated by Edelgard more than the other paths are by their lords. BL is pretty heavily the Dimitri route too. I haven’t finished Deer route but I kinda expected it to be similar with Claude.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2022 08:15 |
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I’m happy for him.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2022 11:15 |
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Dimitri going off the rails is why he's fun so the game seemingly skipping that part is making Azure Gleam a pretty low priority route imo.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2022 22:28 |
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Is it because of the hair?
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2022 00:50 |
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Half the recruitments are "Surrender if you don't want to die" so it makes sense they don't have large support lists but why even have them join the army at that point? It's a bit silly.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2022 01:27 |
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Claude is cool imo. Happy he gets to be scheming this game.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2022 22:14 |
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Really mentoring those kids via silently standing there.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2022 06:25 |
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SgtSteel91 posted:It’s like some monkey’s paw-like reversal in all the wrong ways of Azure Moon. ”Oh people didn’t like that Edelgard was portrayed as a one-sided villain who literally turned into a monster at the end in Three Houses? Okay, now she’s a damsel in distress and all the trauma she had is erased so she can have the childhood the Slithers stole from her!” Edie was good in Azure Moon frankly.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2022 11:02 |
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Clawtopsy posted:Also, what did everyone think of the major spoiler reveal that Sothis is trying to take over Byleth’s body for real? And if you kill Jeralt, Byleth gives it up willingly? I liked what we got of Byleth and Jeralt's relationship in 3 Houses so was happy to see that relationship given some extra emphasis with that detail. Byleth's relationships with Sothis and Jeralt were probably the aspects of their character I most enjoyed so am glad that despite their relative lack of importance that's what this spinoff decided to center in on with their major story scenes. Even if Sothis kinda gives off a different vibe.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2022 01:45 |
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I think it is good we are freed from S ranks and I hope they do not return.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2022 06:26 |
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Male Shez has solid VA imo. Dude seems chill.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2022 01:41 |
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No matter how you feel about Shez's design I don't think anyone thinks he looks like a background npc.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2022 02:07 |
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Why would I be deploying Shez and Byleth every time? Sounds wack
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2022 03:49 |
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SgtSteel91 posted:Am I the only one here who likes the Blue Lions? All this dumping on AG is really bumming me out Frankly it's just disappointing that Koei and Intsys listened to the fools and trolls that said Dimitri becoming an insane beserker that hallucinates the voices of the dead telling him to brutally murder all his enemies was dumb and bad when actually it was very good and cool. A Dimitri that doesn't go full Boarman just ain't my guy.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2022 22:33 |
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Nice try but Boarman was good and sympathetic.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2022 22:38 |
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Natural 20 posted:lol no he wasn't. ??? I like that the fact his shortsighted beserker revenge strategy is going to inevitably fail and end in his death is a feature of the plan and not a flaw because Dimitri really wants to die. And I find that whole deal contributes to a compelling and likeable arc.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2022 23:05 |
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Bloodly posted:Why? I don't know why they listened to the fools and trolls either.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2022 05:30 |
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People always bring up how dumb it is that everyone is ok with Dimitri leading the army when it's basically just the case for 2 maps and after the first everyone except Gilbert is like "Man, we gotta ditch Dimitri this is a bad plan". E: Like yeah sure if it doesn't work for you or whatever and it probably shoulda ended one map earlier. But the way people talk about it makes it seem like a much bigger part of the story.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2022 06:14 |
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Like I added, probably shoulda ended one map earlier.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2022 06:17 |
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Also regarding Edelgard specifically, Dimitri has some kind of weird obsession with her. He can kill his own uncle and confront the alien mole people and keep his cool, even after being told to his face that they conspired to murder his family and half his townspeople, but the second he suspects Edelgard maybe was involved he snaps and goes full boar. Even on Azure Gleam we get to see a second of him suppressing the Boar the first time he entertains the thought. It's never resolved past Edelgard telling him to gently caress all the way off when he tries to treat her as a little sister in the secret bonus chapter. Dimitri's family all got murdered and is very hosed up by that so he values his one remaining family member very highly even if she doesn't know they're secret family so her being involved in his family's death hits harder for him. I guess he has an offscreen Uncle as well (until Hopes) but that dude seems like an rear end in a top hat. Anyway Dimitri's just a Camus. A man that personally aligns with the protag's morality and seems like a cool dude but due to their duties and obligations opposes the party as the sympathetic enemy general. I think he's a pretty good character of that archetype in GW at least tbh. He and Claude are used as solid foils to each other at times and it works pretty well. One of my favourite things about Hopes is how the relationship between the house leaders is a bigger deal in this game when before it only really got major focus between Edie and Dimitri in AM. They're all cool guys and I like when they're interacting even if it's just them quipping at each other in the middle of a battlefield. SyntheticPolygon fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Jul 7, 2022 |
# ¿ Jul 7, 2022 22:56 |
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But she's working less closely with the Slithers so it evens out.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2022 23:12 |
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This is why its good Shez can't date anyone.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2022 23:25 |
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She's into Rhea though.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2022 00:21 |
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Genovera posted:The dialogue in that late chapter really annoyed me because I was hoping that the Edelgard/Dimitri conversation would be different on Edelgard's route. It felt like it was written for Dimitri's route. Him asking her about Anselma, the image of Dimitri helping her stand up, and Edelgard saying "Not that the world outside will be any kinder to me than the one in here" all fit way better for a player coming from his route. The fact that in AG Edie is conveniently un-amnesiad for this section makes me think it is written with the other routes in mind. With the game needing to put more effort into smoothing things over for AG so this scene can still happen. Same for the other House Leader supports.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2022 03:54 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:I haven’t played Claude’s stuff but from what’s being discussed it doesn’t sound like ambiguity? He just sounds like a bad guy He's the good guy and not even all that morally ambiguous in the end. Not anymoreso than Edie at least. Honestly, I feel like everyone that's like "Wow Claude's such an rear end in a top hat villain this game. What happened to him???" are from people that have just heard about it and not actually played the game. Like, Claude's got grand designs and does some more scheming but he's portrayed pretty much as positively as in the original game and even his shadier poo poo is clearly stuff that he struggles with and that his pals are helping to curb.
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2022 00:21 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:Well I don’t particularly care how he’s portrayed because I can just chalk that up to bad writing. I care about what he does. Honestly he would be better if the game just went in on him being bad, having a villainous character that’s not as Cackling as Dimtri and the church isn’t a bad thing. You don't know what he does though! You said you haven't played his stuff.
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2022 00:36 |
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I don't think spoiler bars in the something awful forum thread are really going to give you a complete look on the story or characters of Fire Emblem Three Hopes.
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2022 00:37 |
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I think it is uncool that Claude's plan for change involves dismantling demoncracy and instituting a monarchy with himself as ruler and I also think it is uncool that Edie's plan for change in the continent involves having an empire conquer and subsume neighboring nations. However, I think that ultimately it is good that both routes have these uncool elements because if one of them didn't and it was just the cool guys doing the right thing and creating the change we want to see in the world it would feel hella lame by comparison. So in the end I think Claude's dismantling of the Alliance is a positive for the story.
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2022 01:52 |
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Game is good tbh.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2022 22:08 |
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3H having a golden ending would be bad and I think CF is good so I don’t agree with it being the golden ending.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2022 01:32 |
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Recruiting the kids is cowardice.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2022 06:47 |
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Trying to manufacture a scenario where nobody has to die or whatever is a very lame way of looking at the game.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2022 06:48 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 16:03 |
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Perhaps it is sold better as a death cult or whatever if people are dying for it and not getting talked over to leaving through a couple of shallow chats. Like regardless of whichever route you’re playing the ease of getting recruits from other houses kinda sucks and the writing as a whole works better if you’re out there killing those kids because they’re sticking to their beliefs as strongly as you are.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2022 07:06 |