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Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

go for a stroll posted:

Is the purpose of the double dribble call to keep you from holding the ball to prevent a turnover, then dribbling again to maneuver when the pressure is off? I never really understood the rule but that would explain not calling it when there's no pressure, right? It would be sort of pointless to make you keep dribbling in place when there's no risk in doing so and no benefit in stopping.

It also forces the dribbler to commit. They can't stop dribbling then see an opening and start dribbling again. This would exist even if there is no pressure, especially if the dribble is indecisive.

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Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

What's it going to take for underhanded free throws to take off in the NBA? They say it's more accurate. In a league where games are decided by two point margins it could change outcomes.

For a player everyone respects to do it.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

KICK BAMA KICK posted:

Why are sign-and-trades a thing in the NBA, like is the guy not exactly becoming a "free agent" the way the other sports work so the team still holds some leverage over him?

Actually if there's a good overall "idiot's guide to how NBA contracts and rosters work" that would help cause like ~4 years into trying to get back into watching it I am still often confused about this stuff.

There is a lot and I don't remember enough of it to lay out good examples. Most people's go-to when asking questions about this kind of thing for the NBA is this link: http://cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Tokelau All Star posted:

I'm not quite sure how to phrase this. How is the game different between the NCAA and the NBA? Why are guys who are killers in college either fizzle out in or not even make it to the NBA? What skills or qualities do or don't translate from one level to the next?

Ooh, this is fun!

The biggest differences:
1) Much greater level of athleticism, strength, and skill throughout the roster
2) Much better offensive and defensive schemes
3) Officiated differently

An easy example to point to is this year's rookie on the Wizards, Johnny Davis. In college, he made his bones creating and converting difficult shots. He has stunk in the NBA. A big reason why is that his difficult shots are even more difficult with the better and more skilled athletes. And since he has gone from being on-par or slightly less athletic than his peers to significantly less, he now struggles to even create easy looks for himself.

Guys who generally do better are guys who are great at getting and scoring at the rim. The paint is generally more clogged in the NCAA due to fewer players that are actually a threat to shoot. So, if a guy is already good at rim penetration, they tend to translate that skill over fairly well.

Related to players being unable to shoot in college are "stiff" bigs. They can be incredible in college but underwhelming in the NBA, like Frank Kaminsky. Bigs in the NBA have to rotate out to cover shooters and tag guys going to the rim. Slow-footed bigs with poor hips and lateral movement can tank their team's defense if they aren't otherworldly great at offense and incredible rebounders.

I hear Rick and other posters who watch both NCAA and NBA comment frequently on the differences in officiating which generally leads to rewarding more physical play in NCAA and more skilled play in the NBA.

There's other stuff, too, but this is all I can think of off the top of my head. If there is a particular player or archetype of player you are curious about why they succeeded or failed in the NBA, please do ask.

Kibner fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Nov 6, 2022

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

KICK BAMA KICK posted:

Is something like stamina ever noted as a difference maker with the NBA game being 20% longer?

Stamina is a very real thing, but it doesn't have as much to do with how many minutes the players play as it does with how much distance the players have to cover in those minutes. Defenses and offenses in the NBA move a lot more than in the NCAA. More off-ball movement, more rotations, more transition, etc.

With that said, the style of play for a player who plays ~15 MPG is very different than one who plays 30+.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Tokelau All Star posted:

How does coaching compare between the NCAA and NBA levels? How is the role of the coach different? Why are some guys like Brad Stevens able to succeed in both, while others like John Beilein flame out?

NCAA is more about recruiting and developing players to play in your system. NBA coaches all have to manage personalities of people who have more "power" than them but also have very different roles depending on the state of the team:

Rebuilding: keeping the team motivated, developing skills for individual players to use in future seasons, prevent bad habits from slipping in

Contender: develop team schemes and rotations designed to get the team through the season healthy, relatively fresh, and ready for playoff competition. lots of very specific and detailed game planning once in the playoffs.

Playoff Hopeful: a mix between Rebuilding and Contender teams, usually based off age/experience of players on team

Most NCAA coaches that fail in the NBA is because they don't know how to treat the players as equals or even more important than them. Some fail because of the brutal schedule. Others fail because they are stuck in their rigid system and don't do a good job of adapting to the players they have.

e: this is a very, very, very high level summary and not 100% true and a perfect fit, but intended to just give a better idea

Kibner fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Nov 15, 2022

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Terminally Bored posted:

Why is the VAR baseball equivalent (challenge replay) done in some room in NYC and not in-stadium during a game?

Presumably so they can have a single crew handling it rather than a separate crew for every game that is happening.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

R.D. Mangles posted:

Both feet have to be completely behind the line when you jump. There was a famous shot in game 6 of the 2021eastern conference finals where durant would have won the game on a 3 but the replay showed his giant shoes had a toe on the line and it was changed to a 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHxa-wDP6n0

Fun note: the only time any part of this changes is on free throws! On free throws, the shooting player is not allowed to cross the free throw line until the ball touches the rim. This was done because some other old-school players would take running starts and jump from behind the line and basically shoot a diving layup for their free throw.

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Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

Ratios and Tendency posted:

Would that be a trivial 99% shot for current NBA players?

Probably closer to 90% because fatigue as games go on, but that is also still higher than the current average of about 78%.

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