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Josef bugman posted:Also to people who are saddened by this. I would advise looking for solutions outside of electoralism in the near future. This is simply from the perspective of one idiot on the internet, but investing in unions and mutual support networks will be vital, at least in my opinion. Faith in government institutions and major political parties in the US at at an all-time low for a reason. It's been a long time coming from a combination of propaganda, money in politics/oligarchal control/lobbying and conservatives cleverly using their power to push things toward getting what they want politically and also increasing their power despite being the minority. These things on top of material conditions continuously deteriorating while those suffering are being told it's their own fault and/or to vote for the people and parties who are actively, if less, harming them and are also contributing to the problems. The problems the vast majority of individuals, groups and also the nation have been and continue to accelerate rapidly. What is being done to mitigate these problems is not just not enough to deal with them, it's not significantly slowing the acceleration. Agree with the statement.
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Josef bugman posted:Thanks. I do not wish to be a doom merchant. Merely to try and help by saying things that help as best I can. There is no peacefully dividing up the US, legally or otherwise, even if there was massive popular support for it or a constitutional convention for a variety of reasons. Also the liberal order (I am not referring to american political definitions but the institutions of the US government amd international organizations that the US is part of/ostensibly leads) would never allow it to happen. Similarly, there will be no change to socialism or reorganization toward a more democratic system where majority rules.
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haveblue posted:If you can do that you may as well just jail them for murder They already do in some cases.
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Rigel posted:I think you misunderstood. We only need 50+1 to modify or abolish the filibuster, and we currently have 48 who are willing to at least chip away at it to move votes for election reform and abortion. There are less than 48 that want to get rid of the filibuster even for a single issue.
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Automata 10 Pack posted:The GOP are actively dismantling democracy. You won’t be able to vote anybody in the next time the GOP take control. I think this issue parallels what some plague rats was bringing up with Roe. Democrats had a lot of time to do something effective about this problem and chose not to. Now they are using the issues to fund raise more than ever claiming democracy and human rights are at risk when this has been true the whole time. They suppressed candidates, groups and actions that were fighting for the solutions in the mean time.
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Toaster Beef posted:After the past six years I'm more surprised when something I assumed to be codified into Constitutional law actually is codified into Constitutional law it is explicitly in the constitution that people in the states get to vote for their senators but state laws have been crafted to allow state legislatures to override elections in cases of "fraud" (actually just the accusation of fraud) and the legislatures also want to attempt to deny the courts any authority when those laws are challenged. On top of that, because of the judges that have been appointed those states and federally, the courts might agree that state legislatures get to pick the winners/override boards of elections. It's blatantly unconstitutional but by the time all the challenges are settled, the elections will have been over for a while, congress critters might already be seated/congress will already be in session. The last line of defense is congress choosing not to seat those who "won" their elections via the state legislature choosing or else refusing to go along with new elections despite there being little-to-no evidence of fraud.
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Yinlock posted:Victims of parental/educational abuse sometimes grow up and advocate for those same things, usually out of a desperate desire to believe that the people they looked up to were normal and doing it for their own good and not just pieces of poo poo taking out theiir stress on children. This is where a lot of the accusations of Coddling The Youth comes from and leads to poo poo like the ol' Learning Paddle still going on. A professional I know, when discussing people who are pro-physical punishment on kids because they themselves were hit, contextualized it like this: It's not just that kids are being taught the wrong lesson- that those who are stronger/have authority can essentially create rules and dispense punishment as they see fit- it's that they were only ever taught that. There is punishment for violating the rules but they were never actually taught what is right.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Dems have been remarkably effective at stonewalling the republicans legislative efforts. How many major pieces of republican legislation from the last 10 years can you even name? Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 - a massive delivery for their donors and perceived as great by their base. Getting 3 supreme court appointments, which many dems rolled over on to cross the aisle for despite the would-be justices blatantly lying under oath. In fact, Trump appointed and the senate confirmed so many judges it shifted the federal judiciary hugely in favor of republican and ideologue control. These are combinations of executive (appointment) and legislative (confirmation) acts. The judiciary is now delivering on Republican goals. Btw, the only thing that stopped the republicans from getting rid of the ACA with nothing to replace it and blowing up nearly a fifth of the economy was John McCain, who was dying of brain cancer and probably wanted to do one good thing in his life before he went. Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Jul 21, 2022 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Trump was already a 5-10% liability over generic R in several key swing states in 2020 and there's no sign that gap is decreasing in light of the hearings. That was already enough to kill trump politically. if anyone wants to quote the stats again, that'd be cool. I know it's getting relatively good ratings compared to the usual stuff and even cable news but also probably stories about it are getting relatively good ratings among those that watch cable news but I'd like to see a breakdown of how many people net total, how many registered voters, likely voters, their identified party, the state they live and, if available, their congressional district and etc. and also if this pushes them to vote one way or the other or changes their mind about voting at all.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Yeah, ultimately quarterly growth is less important than wages and standards of living. Of course the two of those things are linked, but mostly they are adversarial in nature. Increasing profits necessarily come at the cost of workers, it's just for a long time those workers weren't American citizens. it's been elucidated by posters far more knowledgeable on the subject than I am, but the "basket of goods" used to determine cost-of-living has no explicit standard. This is not because the type of goods necessarily change with time (which does happen), but because they can be used to impact the results in order to support whatever the person or group using them wants to say/conclude. I'd enjoy seeing a summary with links again if anyone wants to put in the effort.  Epic High Five posted:They're wrong about this of course, or at least they're not being honest in their public statements as we saw with inflation narratives and the insistent assertion that the root cause of all of this is a 1400 dollar check sent out almost 7 fiscal quarters ago, but it's still what they believe. As ever, the most prudent long term financial strategy is to find someone who has spent decades of their life being wrong about every single thing and being rewarded as a result and just plan for the opposite of whatever they are saying being true. Luckily our system provides no lack of these figures. Summers and Kristol are my go-to media feeds for this. there is a belief that there is a natural hierarchy within the economic system and people will find their place within it accordingly Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jul 28, 2022 |
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BiggerBoat posted:They don't give a gently caress about the military or vets and I'm not sure how they managed to corral that label of the pro military party. It's mostly just platitudes and showing off by worshiping the national anthem and poo poo. Wrapping yourself in the flag works. Telling people you are holy because God saw fit to give you wealth and status confirms biases, even if it goes against the teachings of Christianity, even if the people who believe it will never see an ounce of success. People will believe what other people say and disregard actions. People will believe what other people say and disregard other things they say when it's convenient to their own subjective reality. Cons work. Advertisement works. Propaganda works. often enough, those that see through it in one context have their own biases and perspective that keep them from believing it of themselves, the groups/people they agree with or are in their lives. My musical tastes are the best because I listen to the most complex, interesting stuff. Popular music is simplistic, catchy nonsense. Musical theory confirms I am right. Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Jul 29, 2022 |
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this is the most correct reply in the thread or any of it's iterations, both in responding to the spirit of the questions asked and in the technical sense. also, the comments are good.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:really curious who they think they're appealing to with this, tbh They are attempting to appeal to suburban independents, republicans and Democrats that think the border and the immigrants crossing it are a problem. Timeless Appeal posted:Intelligence exists in your ability to acquire and apply knowledge. It's important to recognize intelligence as an actual thing because how we actually do this varies from person to person. For us to have fair and equitable education, we actually do have to recognize that there is a quality to how people take in information that varies from person to person. So, yeah, I think intelligence matters and is real. What is measured as IQ may not be a general measure of the ability to apply knowledge but specific knowledge like obedience or what is taught in certain homes (these are just examples) Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jul 30, 2022 |
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:First, you deliberately lopped off the CDC clarification. The problem I personally saw was that it was stated in such a way as to link men who have sex with men spreading the disease to children and that the cause of that spread was left ambiguous. If it's framed as something similar to an STI or even just a disease in a certain community/among those with a certain sexuality and then children get it from the individuals in that community or who are that sexuality then people, not necessarily those who are far-right, will be fearful their children might catch it from the individuals that are that sexuality. They could even link it to harmful behavior or else it will help to confirm what they're hearing from the nonstop bigoted propaganda about lgbtq+ people being groomers. It could likely lead to increased gay panic, is my point. In actuality it was spread by parents who had the rash to their infant children by touching them benignly. The problem is in the way scientists communicate in this regard because they say things like "likely" or, at best, "probably" or, in this case, leave it ambiguous because that is what is most accurate and/or to manage expectations. This compared to those who are not held or do not hold themselves to the same standard giving absolute statements, which work on the human mind far better.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I think Alex Jones has realized he is going to lose this case and is just trying to preserve his cred with his viewers now. yeah he's totally screwed insofar as the eventual jury decision+ruling on damages in the cases he was defaulted on. He'll appeal, he'll try to move/hide his assets even more than he has and simultaneously continue with bankruptcy proceedings. He'll stall. He'll flat-out refuse to pay, which will eat yet more time and lead to cases/proceedings/rulings on collection until the issue is finally forced. But a comment on the statement I'm quoting: a majority of his viewers/listeners will believe him even if he contradicts himself on camera or even in the same sentence. He does it all the time. He did it with respect the January 6th hearings and even about Stewart Rhodes, who guest-hosted Alex's show and has now been convicted of seditious conspiracy Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Aug 3, 2022 |
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no idea if he actually paid but Alex Jones and Free Speech Systems were hit with over $1M to pay for plantiff's legal fees. https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2022/04/22/alex-jones-infowars-sandy-hook-lawsuits-1-million-penalties/7394307001/ he also got $8M in bitcoin from an ~anonymous donor~ https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/05/26/alex-jones-bitcoin-8-million-infowars
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bird food bathtub posted:That's the problem. The defense didn't do any of that. The plaintiff received the evidence, poo poo about a ton of bricks and asked them if they wanted to review any of it for privilege cause "loving yikes" and didn't get a response. It's legal and totally fine for plaintiffs legal team to use the info after the 10 day point. Unintentionally revealing too much in discovery allows the opposition to use it in the US.
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Not a Children posted:He’s got the resources to tie everything up until he dies a free man, old and fat drunk, with piles of stimulants for the rest of his days.
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Professor Beetus posted:Well I certainly wouldn't ever extend forgiveness to someone who has remained callous, cruel, and shown absolutely no remorse or contrition. But hey, I don't think in this case it really matters what any of us think, and I feel like forgiveness is a personal matter and she is not obligated to keep the hate flame burning for our edification I don't think the person who forgave him or her ex-husband regularly listen to Alex Jones's show. Nor should they. Nor should anyone. Mooseontheloose posted:This is more directed to all the people saying she shouldn't forgive him because what good does that do not to you Josef. Sometimes people forgive because it helps them move past the trauma and move on from what happened to them. She has been inflicted upon by this rear end in a top hat and if forgiveness helps her move on, I am not going to call her out for it. This is correct in essentials. Forgiveness is about the person who is doing the forgiving. It doesn't mean they have to interact with, praise or even think about the person they forgive. It also doesn't mean they can't feel negative emotions about the hurt someone caused them or ongoing hurt. It is about coming to an understanding, accepting and moving on Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Aug 5, 2022 |
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bird food bathtub posted:The next election won't be stolen with guns and nooses, it will be stolen with spreadsheets, legislation, judges and lawyers. No sense fighting battles when you can just build systems to engineer the outcome you want then get everyone arguing about your lies that it's a fair and impartial system. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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TheDisreputableDog posted:My first job was at a European bank, and there was a constant battle between Americans and expats switching out letter and A4 paper trays, it was literally a bigger issue than the language barrier. Satanic Minion of The New World a Hero would say
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Veryslightlymad posted:Absolutely, assuming you're flying legally and want to also land. yep. Even with a private charter/landing at a private airport, you need to file a flight plan and go through customs. Also if Trump wants to use his own plane, the airport has to be 757-200 compliant.
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Zotix posted:I went to a state university, didn't know poo poo about money. Had every angle of society tell me I had to have a college degree, and now I'm super hosed with college debt until a parent passes away and I can sell a house. I had zero guidance from either parent on what the actual costs of college were, how to pay for it, etc. Other than just go to college. Literally any chance of building a future right now is on hold because of it. I make decent money right now, but still can't think of buying a house, or starting a family. I'm focusing on building career skills because in the short term is the only real option. Another 15-20k/yr would help quite a bit. It's my own doing, I get it, but at 18-22 I literally had no concept of what I was doing to future me. part of the problem is that education became big business with all the trappings like advertising that comes along with that. As a huge money-making venture, it had to entice customers and other funding. Talk to people who have been in admin for decades (who are probably retired now) but they will tell you how much it transformed over that time.
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FlapYoJacks posted:LOL the dumbest things he perpetuated was the 6 foot/2 meter rule and “masks may not be effective” for months into this pandemic. Not Fauci but the CDC claiming kids could be placed 3 feet apart rather than 6 feet apart (which was always too close, anyway) in classrooms before the results of the studies came in, then having to walk it back when the studies showed that this was dangerous. On Fauci specifically, him along with Andrew Cuomo being complimented on public radio for how well they were handling covid. Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Aug 22, 2022 |
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The executive agencies that deal with public health, through their spokespeople and public information, did not follow the science. This applies both to precautionary measures before the relevant results of the early studies about covid-19 became available and, importantly, after. Some of this is due to their policy of refusing to challenge elected politicians and political appointees publicly, republican and democrat, Trump and Biden, but most of the blame is theirs alone. They, Fauci included, did a poor job in that respect and saying so is not a rehashed right-wing criticism.
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all Fauci had to say in the beginning was "we do not yet have hard data (that we trust) on what is effective at mitigating the spread of COVID-19, specifically. However, with other SARS diseases in the past, research shows that using certain types of masks >list types here< and distancing have been effective." But instead he either lied for a dumb reason or else was completely wrong. Either harms his credibility and the credibility of public health institutions, while causing serious harm to public health. Ditto for the CDC claiming that distancing for kids in schools could go down to 3 feet before the data came in, which then showed they were dead-rear end wrong. Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Aug 22, 2022 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Excuse me, this is Socialism (TM) the common complaint I see and hear most often is "it would lower standards" because so many more people would go to college. But there are (still) terrible for-profit schools, unaccredited schools, actual diploma mills from which you can buy advanced degrees, private schools with massive grade inflation that cater to the upper class, kids like Jared Kushner and Trump getting into said schools via donation, less obvious college admission bribery than the one exposed in 2019 and so on. Increasing the amount of resources on tertiary education, the amount of students and thus teachers etc wouldn't hurt standards, it would likely improve them. The issue is that it goes against the bullshit idea that the US is a meritocracy despite plenty of proof already existing that it isn't. Also, it can and should be done for technical school as well.
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Jaxyon posted:That's how you know it's about exclusivity and class, instead of standards. Another issue is the examination and examination prep industry. High scores on entrance exams do not necessarily translate to success in college or graduate-level coursework but the tests and their prep courses make a ton of money. I'm not disagreeing with the concept because grades and program difficulty are taken into account with other factors for graduate or professional education, but they can be circumvented (less and less, in the case of some professions but it still happens). There is also the issue with limited spots for certain professional degree programs and professional positions due to artificial scarcity. But this is getting away from the point of bachelor's, associate's or technical education. Exams that test general knowledge and the ability to follow directions can also be problematic, especially with the patchwork primary and secondary education system in the US. A problem that certainly isn't solved by more money alone (proof of this can be found in what happened with charter schools in Trenton, NJ with Zuckerberg inputting a ton of money and most of it going to consultants and businesses, rather than being spent on resources for students and teachers). Plenty of students who do decently to well on tests will still drop or be kicked out for failing to keep up with coursework and god forbid we throw good money away educating people!
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It's all weird and hard to parse out what the actual goal was with the limited public info we have. But, the new information just makes it all stranger. I know everyone has their opinion about it but it's as simple as "I want this. This is mine." Maybe with a "that's cool" in the beginning. If you can't understand why that happens, the chain of thoughts, justifications or explanations, that's okay. Everyone does something similar but usually has more filters and limitations because they have an understanding of consequences and not just negatives ones for themselves and/or they have a set of values they abide by that isn't just "I want this. This is mine."
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Keyser_Soze posted:get ready for millions of "opinion" articles attacking the school loan debt relief. many centrists and liberals agree with this line of thinking
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BiggerBoat posted:Think helldump or a a website full of people that stalk ChrisChan weirdly, they thought 4chan went too far with. Also SA is where stalking ChrisChan started, for those who do not know.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Biden just cancelled my Westlaw and PubMed debt too. wish it could be done for all published research and etc
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Sonic the Hedgehog because he will use the chaos emeralds for silly things like turning yellow and going even faster.
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Main Paineframe posted:Now that there isn't anything else on the legislative agenda until after the midterms, he doesn't have anything immediate to lose by pissing off Manchin or Sinema, both of whom can be expected to oppose him going hard against the GOP and to respond by blocking bills out of spite. Without the House, a lot of major legislation like voting rights and codifying Roe is out. They'll keep fundraising and running on it, though. Confirmations can continue but what else? More investigations into Trump and the like, but it's been too long at this point qmd there wasn't enough support to do it 8 months after. On the flip side, a republican House is going to start it's own investigations of Biden, his son, various democrats, politicization of the DoJ + FBI and "election fraud." For the midterms and 2024, democrats have to compete with not only gerrymandering and heavier voter suppression but also new election laws in many states being put into practice.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:More systematically speaking, PPP loans supported capital, while student loan forgiveness supports labor. Republican leaders recognize their own class interests intuitively even when not consciously thinking in that framework. I don't know how many, if any, democrats criticized PPP loans, the related grifting + screwing over workers or the loans being forgiven. They seemed very in favor of it all around. The tweets were calling out hypocrisy, which isn't that effective in convincing voters and certainly doesn't abash the GOP.
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Freakazoid_ posted:And what degrees would that be? Most law degrees >;]. colleges should include some mandatory courses that provide general job training so competence in stuff like excel is ubiquitous. General requirements outside of stuff like writing 100s that are x amount of credits in various humanities get a bad rap because they are considered a waste of time and energy for students who know they want a degree in a specific major. But not everyone does know. Plus in some fields/mqjors only the top and/or most gregarious students get into the field. If school were free (as it should be), these general requirements would be considered a waste of taxpayer money, even though they are not though I do not think they should be required. Those courses definitely increase the workload, on top of more material study in every subject every year.
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I know you're referring to presidential elections but other poo poo has been changed to allow legislatures to pick winners in other elections, to overrule election boards and the like and potentially ignore/override court decisions. I don't know if any of the new election laws have been tested yet, though voter suppression and gerrymandering legislation have been supported by the federal courts. Pretty sure a state legislature choosing a senator, even with their new laws, flies in the face of the 17th amendment. It's going to be an interesting election season
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Baronash posted:College does not exist to be job training, and talking about it like it needs to be turned into some stripped down training program is gross. You can already look around and see the consequences of folks with a lot of domain-specific knowledge showing their asses whenever they stray outside their bubble, and your suggestion is that we should make that problem worse. I went to college and, in the course of completing my gen eds and degree requirements, took classes in chemistry, biology, history, statistics, logic and ethics, political science, geology, art history, environmental sustainability, ecology, and anthropology. None of these had anything to do with my "bullshit major" of recreation. What all those classes did do was give me a glimpse of the world outside of my own direct experience. That's the point: to be confronted by different perspectives and challenge your preconceived notions about the world around you. you misread my post. Cranappleberry posted:General requirements outside of stuff like writing 100s that are x amount of credits in various humanities get a bad rap because they are considered a waste of time and energy for students who know they want a degree in a specific major. But not everyone does know. But for some majors, a student ends up taking 18-21 credits for several semesters, which is a huge workload, because their schedule is already quite full with degree requirements and they also have to take a 4 credits each of requirements A-I in order to graduate. Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Aug 29, 2022 |
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slurm posted:I was a humanities major and the gen ed requirements basically made it impossible for us to become competitive for grad school admissions in four years. Either an extensive high school background or a post bac was generally needed to get enough of a handle on the two modern and two ancient languages required if you didn't grow up speaking any of them. this is exactly the issue. It becomes so much of a time and effort sink. Full-time school is 12 credits, which is fine if you plan to spend many years in schooling or don't know what you want to do so you take gen ed requirements and also writing requirements. Generally people take 15 credits to start. for a pure science degree, 1st semester: calc I or II (or a, b or c) - 3-4 credits as some schools require recitations. primary science course, calculus based (gen chem I or II, physics I or II or a, b, c, etc) - 3-4 credits primary science lab - 1 credit writing course - 3 credits gen ed requirement - 3 credits school intro course - 1 credit continues to the next level for the second semester. 14 credits minimum, 16 if the school uses recitations and that's considered a low semester. This is assuming that honors courses are not taken. Some schools combine labs with the course but that isn't typical for a school that is science or engineering-focused. Now add in part or full-time work to that. In the second year a second calculus-based science must be done for degree requirements (like general chemistry for general physics degree or physics for chemistry degree). In addition to this, the required labs for each and 2 credit labs start for the more advanced science course. Labs can run from 3 hours to up to 6 hours, sometimes 2-3 times a week plus a lecture course. Splitting up calculus and physics into 3 parts is fine but it's also more time, money and effort spent. Then the general education requirements which still must be done. Every year the books get updated and there is more to learn for incoming students. You can get a humanities degree or a double-major and still end up with yet more classes you need to take if you are hoping to get into medical school. I believe biochemistry has the highest credit-hour requirements of any bachelor's degree. Engineering tends to be a bit more streamlined because it rolls into a master's degree in the 4th and/or 5th year. For chemistry, an analytical chemistry + lab has to be fit in in the second year, as well as ascending levels + their labs (gen chem -> organic -> physical), biochemistry, a specific writing course, maybe statistics, then finally, multiple upper-level chemistry and lab courses. This, plus general physics and all the way to calculus III or linear algebra. Half your time is spent on general education requirements. Cranappleberry fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Aug 29, 2022 |
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