some plague rats posted:

To lighten the mood, I was reading one of the bad threads and I ran across this extremely darkly funny excerpt from Yesterday's Man:



Joe Biden had never once passed up a chance to have his wallet inspected, has he

Fritz the Horse posted:

Discendo Vox provided an argument for why mentioning China or Russia would be directly relevant (they are the main sources of drugs repackaged as supplements). The framing of his suggestion for talking to Republicans is to push "made in America" in contrast to foreign drugs, which is a nationalistic sentiment. If you have a GOP representative and don't want to use that approach, don't.

theCalamity posted:

https://twitter.com/Jordanfabian/status/1540731554585989121?s=20&t=o9Hkx5MTWOjAm2aQ89tTjw

They've had so much time to come up with a plan. They knew this was coming. Yet they don't have a plan

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Never. They'll burn down the party UK Labour-style before letting that happen.

MadJackal posted:

The Internet Leftist hot takes are that the Democrats are magically responsible for the overturn of Roe v Wade, while mainstream Democrats were saying all along, "If you give these nuts any amount of power, bad things will happen."

And the Internet Leftist hot take in 2016 was Don't Vote Democrat.

Accelerationism doesn't work in the direction Internet Leftists thought it would.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Which of those states do not require intent or neglect for a mother to be charged with murder or feticide? Because I have never heard of one that exists and reading through that list shows that every single one either requires negligence, exempts the mother, or just ties it to the definition of murder (which, by definition, requires intent).

selec posted:

https://twitter.com/sensanders/status/1542172959925850114?s=21&t=uPiyRyerNa8cZwDpwXterA

Sanders continues to distance himself from the party line by showing them what fighting for people would look like when the rest of the party seems to have gone into a protective crouch.

Discendo Vox posted:

You're not the Supreme Court, and neither is this thread. My post explaining conflict of laws already discussed why this is unlikely to transpire. Responding to it with nothing but "yes, but the fascists are so angrypowerful they can ignore all information, and therefore so can I" doesn't actually promote any kind of discussion or detail.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Then Biden shoots it down and nothing changes. Either ends the same way basically because the current judge is relatively young for a judge and isn’t dying any time soon and probably won’t be replaced by Biden or whoever comes after by their choice.

Pete is ok. Prefer others though.

Keyser_Soze posted:

Pete is a centrist cyborg but is at least "electable" and could win against the fundy fascist chuds and can also discuss things without drooling all over himself or screaming and farting like Dumb Donnie.

Meanwhile, we all wait for the "magical internet marxist to unite us all" currently serving (undercover of course) on a school board in Cleveland to finally work their way up to national politics.

..........and yeah, Bernie remains the most coherent over 80 year old around and shrugged off a heart attack in like a week. I will keep donating to him.

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Jimmy Carter speed run? Really not getting the comparisons between Biden and Carter. Granted Carter was before my time, but from what I've read about the guy he seems like he was on the right side of history on most things and was sure as poo poo less evil than the guy who came after him (Ronald "let's ignore AIDS and destroy unions" Reagan).

Main Paineframe posted:

Biden's already done good things for plenty of people, though. Sure, his legislative initiatives have largely stalled in Congress through no real fault of his own, but he and his administration have used executive power for some good things, including some things that covered for Congress' failings.

He may not have done as much as many of us would like, but it's just plain wrong to say that he's done nothing.

Cimber posted:

I think that Biden is a victim more of circumstance than of inability. A lot of the things that are dragging him down are way outside his control.

the_steve posted:

The problem is that the Dems really don't have any incentive to run anyone better.
With Roe being overturned, that is the drum they are going to beat relentlessly, that it is our responsibility to gleefully lap up whatever slop they put in front of us or else women's rights will be gone forever and don't you dare point out that they've had literal decades to codify those rights into law or else you're a right wing asset.

Kalit posted:

We are not talking past each other. While I'm unsure of the specific number, I strongly dispute that "nearly all"* are law abiding. IMO, this can be seen by the "self-defense" gun use numbers. My evidence: https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/6/4/263.short

*Unsure where Bishayler got 80 million, this source says that ~72 million people in the US are gun owners.

Kalit posted:

The second point in the link. If most of the millions of claims are illegal, then that's easily much more than thousands of times more than the ~500k reports you included in your link.

yronic heroism posted:

By that logic no one can even be arrested before they are found guilty at trial since nothing that happened was illegal before the trial.

But you are missing the bigger point that Kalit is posting in a dead comedy forum and not a court.

haveblue posted:

"If you buy season tickets now, we'll try to draft players who can defeat the monster next season" meanwhile the monster is setting demolition charges all over the arena

Rigel posted:

We've literally never had a criminal prosecution of a former president before despite many opportunities to do so. The answer (and the reason why this time is different) is kind of obvious. There's not a big conspiracy, you are going to need the support of the people for such a monumental, historic, earth-shaking step. I'm not sure you appreciate just how much of a big deal this would, and hopefully will, be.

Gros Tarla posted:

What would you have her say instead? If a group is being disproportionally impacted, I'd think telling them would be a good thing?

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Epic High Five posted:

The plan of attack against inflation and price increases generally is, in the broader strokes, to "discipline" labor and return the country to the 8-10% real unemployment that is required to keep the current system running as designed. So far the various initiatives to encourage layoffs and increase precarity amongst the productive classes have been yielding results, and thus in their minds they are likely wanting to avoid a situation where they declare RECESSION! only to have to say NO RECESSION! 4 weeks later and look like idiots. There is no legal definition, it's just something they declare when they feel it's necessary as a part of any broader ideological program.

They're wrong about this of course, or at least they're not being honest in their public statements as we saw with inflation narratives and the insistent assertion that the root cause of all of this is a 1400 dollar check sent out almost 7 fiscal quarters ago, but it's still what they believe. As ever, the most prudent long term financial strategy is to find someone who has spent decades of their life being wrong about every single thing and being rewarded as a result and just plan for the opposite of whatever they are saying being true. Luckily our system provides no lack of these figures. Summers and Kristol are my go-to media feeds for this.

DeadlyMuffin posted:

Yeah, that's my point.

PT6A posted:

No, she said they have been traced back to the MSM community, which is either factually correct or it isn't. There are children with gay parents, children with gay siblings, and other situations where children might have sufficient contact with men who have sex with men, in a completely non-sexual way, that they could get the disease and it could be traced back to the MSM community.

It's not a moral judgement unless you choose to make it one, and the people who are choosing to make it a moral judgement would do so regardless of how it was phrased, regardless of what evidence or lack thereof was presented.

PT6A posted:

My argument is that no matter what she says, if she communicates the current spread pattern of the disease, it will be used to justify hatred and queerbashing. If the information is made publicly available I don’t think there’s any avoiding that, sadly. So you’re in fact saying that the CDC should refuse to disclose this information — essentially treating it as classified material.

I think, on the balance, that’s not the worst idea, but can you imagine the conspiracy theories that would create?

Bar Ran Dun posted:

Blaming the problem on anybody other than the fascists driving it, is pro fascist. But you know that.

Bar Ran Dun posted:

Yeah but then you can’t radicalize folks or make them feel hopeless and inclined to withdraw from politics.

silence_kit posted:

Read this post:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=4005023&pagenumber=133&perpage=40#post525209996

and following replies to the post:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4005023&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=134#post525213871

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4005023&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=134#post525214215