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Apr 6, 2012

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Can someone remind me of what Derek Chauvin's salary was?

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HonorableTB posted:

You're comparing Seattle City Light, a taxpayer subsidized municipal utility, with privatized electric. Look up the rates for Georgia Power and get back to me.


Just looked on my GA power bill for June. Actual cost was $.1238 per kWh. Factor in fees and it was $.16272. I pay $215 a month flat for 1850 sq ft of poorly insulated, built-in-1932 house - doing the flatrate option so I don't spike in summer, but don't enjoy the $70 bills in winter (gas heat).

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Failed Imagineer posted:

Ivana Trump is dead, has the Big Guy made a classic tweet Truth about it yet?

E: RIP to a lady who really loved pizza

https://twitter.com/JAHeale/status/1547670269656850434?t=STF7qryjV1lMl5gMhE9emw&s=19

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/14/nyregion/ivana-trump-dead.html

quote:

The New York City police were investigating whether Ms. Trump fell down the stairs at her townhouse on the Upper East Side, according to two law enforcement officials with knowledge of the matter. One of the officials said that there was no sign of forced entry at the home and that the death appeared to be accidental. A spokeswoman for the city’s chief medical examiner’s office said it would investigate the death.

wtf

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Bugsy posted:

Yep, the ag is trying to intimidate everyone involved to show how chuddy he is.

https://twitter.com/rachelolding/status/1547779208369213447

Has anyone cracked the code as to why all these people are so predictably similar?

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It's really inspiring to witness such a historic event being highlighted by a generationally-whiny little bitch.

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Charliegrs posted:

I was listening to CNN a few hours ago and they said apparently DOJ agents were at Mar A Lago for discussions with Trump's lawyers recent. Apparently Trump even popped in to say hi but didn't answer any questions and then left. Anyway, the lawyers actually showed the DOJ agents where the documents were being stored in the Mar A Lago basement. Why they showed them I have no idea but apparently it wasn't secured very well so the DOJ asked them to lock it down more which they did with a padlock.

His lawyers: we loving hate him too ok.

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Apr 6, 2012

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Hadn't thought of this.

https://twitter.com/danieleharper/status/1556831482693525504?t=3ThzHU1oASam1VNITWuVMw&s=19

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slurm posted:

When he was actually worried he tried to murder his own VP and overthrow the United States

No he asked his supporters to do it which is what he was doing in the press release but for the fbi. And they heard him.

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1556787050438877192?s=19

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Sir Lemming posted:

The real threat is not DeSantis himself, in a vacuum, but DeSantis versus Biden. Given a clean slate, going up against a comparable Democrat, I don't think DeSantis would be a terribly strong candidate. But against the oldest candidate of all time, and depending on how the economy's looking at that point... It's not very encouraging.

Republicans aren't banking on winning through democratic means in 2024, even if it's against Biden. They're going to very publicly and openly try to outright steal the election.

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So trump was storing top-secret documents in a bomb shelter in Mar a Lago, that apparently received a security upgrade when staff installed a padlock on the door.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/08/politics/mar-a-lago-search-warrant-fbi-donald-trump/index.html

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/local/2017/08/10/little-known-feature-trump-s/7803682007/

This is all very funny.

With this raid conducted by a COINTEL guy, who wants to bet that Trump had, like, plans to the F-35 or something he was trying to sell to the highest bidding Russian oligarch?

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evilweasel posted:

but the FBI does not idly go on the same fishing expeditions against a former president that they do against some random poor person. that's the core point. conducting a pointless search against someone who is poor or powerless doesn't hurt people's careers. conducting a pointless search against donald trump will certainly hurt or end careers, so the people signing off on it must believe they've got enough to avoid that damage. do they, in fact, have that? they might not - the FBI/DOJ has faceplanted before on big public corruption cases (Ted Stevens is the one I would look to) and could certainly do so here. the key thing to remember is the Ted Stevens case was a career-killer for people involved, and there's no chance the people here don't know that.

Ya there seems to a disconnect of empathy here. Any one of us can easily, from a place of anonymity and without repercussion to our lives and livelihood, say 'ya gently caress trump, search all his poo poo and then humiliate him in front of his kids' or whatever. It's entirely different to do something like this from a public, career-oriented position where his followers can find out who you are and the decision follow you for the rest of your life.

Many people had to have seen evidence supporting this action and thought it concrete enough to put the rest of their lives on the line with moving forward. I just don't think there are that many leftist, antifascist ideologues in the FBI and judicial system to execute this without overwhelming evidence.

edit apparently Bruce Reinhart was the magistrate that signed off on the warrant. Appointed in 2018, has links to Jeffrey Epstein.

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Buncha docs were also given to the NY AG yesterday over his real estate valuation fraud scams lol.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/08/trump-real-estate-appraiser-hands-over-thousands-of-documents-to-ny-ag-in-civil-probe.html

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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

WaPo also has a really interesting and informative story about what the $80 billion going to the IRS in the IRA is for. It starts out with some pretty insane details that you may have already heard about. It then spirals into even crazier territory that you most likely haven't.

One of the main projects is upgrading to a computer system that allows for searching and doesn't require IRS employees to create paper copies of all tax returns and then enter them all manually by hand into the computer system.

Another is to digitize records so that the IRS cafeteria in Austin can reopen because it is currently being used to store paper copies of tax return records. Seriously.

This is hilarious. My compny ran that Cafe location. I remember my DM talking about the paper storage thing as a reason that we weren't going to reopen there once pandemic precautions were diminished.

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evilweasel posted:

there are many people who are blithely asserting that; unfortunately the facts do not bear out that conclusion (which is why those facts are being widely ignored by the "do nothing" camp in favor of such blithe assertions). that is, however, a much better argument (as grievously flawed as it is given that the facts falsify it) against the bill compared to "well its not giving me a car"

The argument also assumes that the bill exists in a vacuum, where it is completely cut off from any political pressure or momentum it might encourage for the climate movement.

Climate orgs are loving ecstatic that something, anything, was passed - even knowing how insufficient it is - because they are going to use it to put more pressure on politicians and use it to wake up more voters. The Exec Director of The Environmental Voter Project was just on The Climate Pod talking about this. The bill is Good, even if it sucks poo poo.

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navigation posted:

Insufficient policies reduce support for larger ones. I'm not really sure how people can believe otherwise, just listen to the rhetoric Manchin et al will use the next time action on climate is proposed. It'll absolutely be "we already did a dramatic and vastly successful action, we need to focus on other things". You'd have to believe that that message is ineffective or would be drowned out by overwhelming and continuous calls for action coming from other sources in order to believe that this bill passing is some sort of momentum builder; that doesn't feel realistic to me but I suppose that's where subjective opinion kicks in.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-019-0491-z

The study notes that if the action is presented as part of a more comprehensive policy the effect is reduced, but with all the incentives dems have to message this as a big game changer on its own I doubt things will land that way. And it doesn't help that popular media like the NYT carries articles with headlines directly implying that the dems "saved civilization" via this bill.

So how does this square with Manchin winning his senate seat by literally shooting a hole (with a gun, in an ad) in Markey's cap and trade bill 12 years ago, and then being the deciding vote on the IRA this year? The ACA and increasing support for M4A? The incremental sniping of abortion access rights across the country and the elimination of Roe?

The study you linked isn't really a useful representative argument, as it specifically links 'nudge' legislation to support for a carbon tax. Carbon taxes come with their own issues, and are debatably a pretty bad 'solution' to the climate problem. Most people don't understand them. It's a pretty esoteric piece of policy to base opinion research on.

Jaxyon posted:

Do this for the ACA.

You can make the argument that the failure of Hillary's plan in the 90's fits what you're saying, but it came back in a compromised form and has effectively killed any serious movement towards a real universal system. Arguably it's further empowered the insurance companies and as you can see by our ongoing healthcare system collapse, made things even worse.

I'd argue that support for a public option, and awareness of the need to dramatically overhaul the healthcare system, is as high as its ever been and barring complete fascist catastrophe is on the horizon, likely in the form of a public option.

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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

the stochastic terror epidemic has found a new timely target

https://twitter.com/mynbc15/status/1557745287283736577


Sodomy Hussein posted:

This follows almost every Republican making insane claims about how the FBI is doing a political hitjob on the rightful president.

Real grim poo poo that my first thought was 'better than a grocery store I guess'.

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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

I don't think there is any evidence he tried to sell it to anyone.

But also... why in the world would he take nuclear secrets that "only the President and a few others" know existed and just put them in a regular keypad safe in his house for almost 2 years? And why did he fight so hard to keep them after the DOJ already knew he had them? If selling them was actually the plan, then you obviously can't sell them at that point.

And I'm not sure why you would take them from the White House and hide them for so long. Or keep them so relatively unguarded for two years if you wanted to sell them/keep them.

Every part of this is incredibly weird.

What if he already sold them?

He did touch the orb remember.

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Apr 6, 2012

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Great 'what the gently caress' start to Friday.

https://twitter.com/thetomzone/status/1557908754867396608?t=hv9KEZ1ccF_S4n83dFHMBw&s=19

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Apr 6, 2012

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Maybe he was just trying to learn more about Nuclear.

https://twitter.com/MrKamp/status/1558067479615864834?s=20&t=S06_56G3SqklbfpjWa_O1g

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Apr 6, 2012

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You can follow the clinical negotiating of the Narcissist in real time by Trump's Truth Social 'press releases' and campaign funding emails.

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1558114663866695685?s=20&t=S06_56G3SqklbfpjWa_O1g

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Cimber posted:

Just when you think Trump and the republicans can't get any worse, they do.

If its true that Trump had nuclear secrets at Mar-a-largo, I can think of two reasons why he would

a) He's selling them to foreign countries.
b) he's showing them to 'special' guests to make them wowed by how awesome of a guy he is, he has access to all the best stuff. The best!

He had to keep them out of the nefarious hands of Dark Brandon, you see.

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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Breitbart names the FBI agents on the warrant

https://twitter.com/UrbanAchievr/status/1558153486117765121

probably not a good thing to do, which is exactly why they are doing it.

If I am breitbart I definitely want to give the FBI a reason to shove its entire fist with a flashlight up my rear end. Good call.

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Apr 6, 2012

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Unclear yet how this will affect Trump and the Trump org but it's hard to look at this and not think that he's telling them everything.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1560276702433263628?s=20&t=D5S-57Yhr03P6lILcTT-Mw

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Apr 6, 2012

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Louie Gohmert is retiring.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/18/louie-gohmert-texas-congress/

quote:

In 2010, U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert warned the nation from the floor of the House of Representatives about a looming threat: terrorist babies.

quote:

Some of his most memorable controversies include the time he compared homosexuality to bestiality. Or when he said Hillary Clinton was “mentally impaired.” Or when he speculated that wearing a mask is what caused him to catch COVID-19. Or when he compared former President Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler. Or when he said the canceling of a television show for homophobic remarks by its hosts was on par with Nazism. Or when he said he was grieving over the arrests of rioters involved in the Jan. 6 insurrection.

etc

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tagesschau posted:

So who replaces him as America's dumbest Congressperson? Boebert? Greene? Gosar? If you include the Senate, Tuberville?

Close tie between Boebert and Greene right now imo but there's a long list of potentials being added in November.

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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

CNN says that Biden is going to announce $10,000 in student loan debt forgiveness as a baseline, with additional forgiveness above $10,000 "for specific subsets of the population."

No info on what those subsets will be or how much extra money it will be.

Plan is to announce it on Wednesday in conjunction with an announcement about the student loan pause, but they say "11th hour changes or rescheduling could still happen."

The only requirements will be an income cap of $125k for single people and $250k for people filing jointly.

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1561851347900710920

Forgiving anything implies that the freeze will thaw eventually, but that seems like political suicide for the executive that does it. It also implies more than 10k can be forgiven. Horrible plan.

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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

This is sourced by The Hill, so a bit of skepticism on how accurate it is is warranted, but they say that the student loan pause will be extended by approximately 4 months (which would be about February 1st, 2023) and that Pell Grant recipients and those who qualified for need-based financial aid under FAFSA will get up to an additional $10k (for a total of up to $20k) forgiven.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1562138874796818432

I wonder how this will affect me. I had loans with pell and FAFSA assistance for my undergrad, and loans without any of that for grad. Maybe my undergrad loans will get wiped, since they are less than $20k now?

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Apr 6, 2012

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Joe is spending a long time trying to reclaim the 'we the people' phrase that fascists loving love. Seems intentional. This speech is kinda wild tbh.

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Apr 6, 2012

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The FBI seized Mike Lindell's phone at a Hardees and he let the world know.

edit how did I forget the tweet.

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1569847934849634306?s=20&t=2f4raUmkkU0jqgsIJGEQGg

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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Hey, remember that story a few weeks ago about the former Governor of Mississippi stealing millions in welfare funds to give to Brett Favre, build a sports stadium, and pay staff salaries?

Remember how Brett Favre was initially not under investigation because he returned the money and allegedly did not know anything about where it came from?

Turns out that he may have known more than he initially let on.

https://twitter.com/DevlinBarrett/status/1569801596371963907

https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/1569787874429501442

So "the usage of public funds is also made public" must be part of that Schoolhouse Rock bit that Favre had concussion'd out of his brain a long time ago.

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Apr 6, 2012

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Trump's whole tax avoidance scheme is centered around misrepresenting the valuation of his properties as well, right? So, wouldn't this have implications re: taxes owed, tax fraud committed, etc as well?

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Main Paineframe posted:

He's not going to do anything like that, because he's well aware that this declassification bullshit is just bullshit. It's fun to make fun of, but don't get too caught up and forget that this is just bullshit he's hurling out there for the most deluded parts of his base.

Granted, it's always hard to tell when Trump's just bullshitting vs when he legit believes the nonsense that comes out of his mouth. But if he thought what he did was perfectly legal and in the right, he wouldn't have gone through so much trouble to hide the documents from the government in the first place.

Also that information isn't worth anything if he just blurts it out.

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