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Nystral posted:I’m behind the intent but I’m unsure how it will survive legal muster. I edited it because I clicked through to the tweeter’s page, and he is a dumbass, and also Adams doesn’t actually give a straight answer to the question. https://twitter.com/NYCMayor/status/1542586449526235137 Legal muster should be easy, it’s long established that kids can be required to be vaccinated to enrol in public schools, for diseases far less consequential than COVID-19, but the courts are Calvinball now so who knows?
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So did f1 dudes used to die all the time or what?
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Proud Christian Mom posted:There's a good chance Wheldon would have died in this car as well. The catch fence sheared off the roll hoop on top of the car. The wind screen is to protect drivers primarily from debris impacts to the helmet(Justin Wilson) and other bizarre hit like Jules Bianchi Is Bianchi the one who ate a bird
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:So did f1 dudes used to die all the time or what? Also Yes
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:So did f1 dudes used to die all the time or what? Enough for a separate wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_fatalities e: As someone who doesn't follow the sport, what changed ~1980? AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jul 3, 2022 |
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:So did f1 dudes used to die all the time or what? Yeah. There was a lady from Spain, Maria de Villota, several years ago who got turbo hosed up in a low speed single car crash and a year later died from neurological issues caused by the crash.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Enough for a separate wikipedia page actual improvements to the chassis to try and like, survive crashes. Chassis made of Carbon instead of aluminum, larger openings so drivers could get out, etc. Alot could be said for Niki Lauda surviving his crash and then coming back, but freaking the gently caress out about safety and forcing the FIA to make changes
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Stewart, Ickx, Lauda and others all had to go majorly against the grain at the time(s) to try and get safety improvements made.
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Who was the guy who was decapitated by a guard rail in racing?
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Enough for a separate wikipedia page Already answered, but I wanted to add that one thing that really gave them a kick in the rear end to get serious about safety was the Imola race of 1994. During Friday practice, driver Rubens Barrichello went airborne and the car sailed into a tire wall. He could have been badly injured or killed but escaped with a broken arm and nose. During Saturday qualifying, Roland Ratzenburger had a front wing failure and went headfirst into a concrete retaining wall, and later died in the hospital. Then during the race Sunday, first there was a huge start line crash that resulted in debris and a tire being launched over the catch fence and into the crowd that injured eight spectators. After a restart, Formula One icon Ayrton Senna’s car failed to negotiate a sharp turn (it likely has bottomed out and was skidding on the plank under the car) and went straight into a wall, and he later died in the hospital. After that nightmarish weekend, they started making a lot of changes to the tracks and the cars in an effort to make things safer.
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Carteret posted:actual improvements to the chassis to try and like, survive crashes. Chassis made of Carbon instead of aluminum, larger openings so drivers could get out, etc. Previnting fuel spraying into the cockpit and continuous improvement of circuits including medevac were other big ones at the time. Good summary: http://www.atlasf1.com/news/safety.html
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Carteret posted:Alot could be said for Niki Lauda surviving his crash and then coming back, but freaking the gently caress out about safety and forcing the FIA to make changes MrMojok posted:Already answered, but I wanted to add that one thing that really gave them a kick in the rear end to get serious about safety was the Imola race of 1994. But there are relatively few deaths listed in the 80s and 90s, after a pile going up to '78.
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Yeah, those things previously mentioned were measures taken to avoid fires and better survive crashes prior to Imola. I think the main problem by the time of Imola was the speeds the cars were reaching, due to the new aerodynamic studies the teams were doing, and also them learning constantly how to squeeze more HP out of the engines. They were becoming too fast for the tracks.
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There's a very good documentary called "Grand Prix: The Killer Years" that talks about the state of the sport through the '50s-'70s and how insanely dangerous it was for both the participants and spectators.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Is Bianchi the one who ate a bird No he took the back end of a front end loader to the dome in one of the most bizarre accidents of all time
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Proud Christian Mom posted:No he took the back end of a front end loader to the dome in one of the most bizarre accidents of all time Front end loaders murk people all the time, they’re the hippos of the machinery world. People are terrified of the forklifts - the big cats - and they sleep on the hippos. But it’s the hippos you have to watch out for.
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:So did f1 dudes used to die all the time or what? pretty sure there was an incident in the 60s or 70s where someone was killed by an F1 driver's flying severed head. Still not as crazy as Group B Rally.
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shame on an IGA posted:pretty sure there was an incident in the 60s or 70s where someone was killed by an F1 driver's flying severed head. https://www.sportscasting.com/the-deadliest-crash-in-racing-history-involved-a-grandstand-collision-flying-debris-and-84-deaths/
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Holy mcgoly that's a loving nightmare crash. Also  that leading into 1955 three of six Le Mans had driver deaths
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Flikken posted:https://www.sportscasting.com/the-deadliest-crash-in-racing-history-involved-a-grandstand-collision-flying-debris-and-84-deaths/ Gonna guess before every material was space age lightweight poo poo so I could easily see a race car sending thousands of pounds of shrapnel into a stands as a rolling bomb e: oh so THATS the race that scared the swiss from motorsports. Wasn't even in country, wtf Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Jul 4, 2022 |
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It basically sent a couple of giant hunks of engine into a densely packed crowd at head height
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They should remove the safety barriers. Crashes like that hardly ever happen, and the barriers spoil the view. Let everyone accept their own personal risk tolerance.
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shame on an IGA posted:pretty sure there was an incident in the 60s or 70s where someone was killed by an F1 driver's flying severed head. I don't even follow F1 but stumbled across the death of Tom Pryce in a Wikipedia wormhole and it's one that sticks with you. He - through no fault of his own - took a fire extinguisher to the dome at 170mph. The extinguisher flew over the grandstand and damaged a car in the parking lot. The unfortunate race marshal who was holding the fire extinguisher had to be identified by process of elimination.
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Best view is directly on the track. If I'm not at real risk of getting pancaked by a column of cars moving at a couple hundred miles an hour each lap, I'd might as well just sit and watch it all on TV at home. Same goes for rocket launches. You've really got to feel the brunt of the heat to get the full experience.
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Discussion Quorum posted:I don't even follow F1 but stumbled across the death of Tom Pryce in a Wikipedia wormhole and it's one that sticks with you. Jesus fuckin christ
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Arrath posted:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvPJ18Kcxos Little brain bleach on the house.
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Zamujasa posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvPJ18Kcxos Thank you for that
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https://medium.com/@otauibvrrfffnchses/listen-up-liberal-69dbfa58c9ab
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This is quite good, thanks
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Maybe some of my fellow Americans can explain to me what's worth celebrating today? I don't think I've ever been less proud to be an American in my life. I seriously cannot believe there are people out there that are unironically celebrating how amazing this country is.
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Someone posted this in the F1 thread. I hadn’t seen this angle before. https://imgur.com/7idz7Ko
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Mustang posted:Maybe some of my fellow Americans can explain to me what's worth celebrating today? I don't think I've ever been less proud to be an American in my life. Also, in case anyone was wondering, Mitt Romney is a disingenuous gently caress. Be sure to find the bullshit RNC talking points he included in his pean to The Atlantic's liberal readers. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/mitt-romney-republican-denial-biden-election/661468/?utm_source=feed Mitt, as though he is powerless to stop any of this posted:
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Midjack posted:lmao at celebrating America in 2022. We were at a 4th of July party last night where they had a spot lit flag, played the national anthem, and everyone stood and hats off, etc. My wife and I did not. Mostly because it was wierd as gently caress, but also because nah, I’m not that proud of this country right now.
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Mustang posted:Maybe some of my fellow Americans can explain to me what's worth celebrating today? I don't think I've ever been less proud to be an American in my life. Kids just want to see a parade  My jaw would fall off if I took the time to explain to my kids how everything they enjoy actually sucks.
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