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Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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My Telecaster is currently in my local shop for its inaugural set-up. I'm going to get .10s put on it, which I think I'll prefer (and its what's on my other guitars, a Jaguar and Strat), but I do still have some packs of .9s around the flat. If I were to use those at some point, just because I hate waste, would there be any significant set-up required?

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Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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I just bought a ramshead big muff and got my Tele set up good and it's over for you nerds*

*my social life

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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So, I've recently moved on to improvising to backing tracks to put the scales I've practiced to use, and it sounds cool and musical, but there's an element of "random bullshit go!" to it. How do I move towards a bit more intentionality when improvising over just loving around in that key?

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Spanish Manlove posted:

Follow the chord progression modally? Instead of just sitting in a box like a rowdy hockey player you'll hop around the board more.

Sorry if I sound dumb (or should take this to the theory thread), you mean if the progression was say Dm, F, Am, I'd play notes from each of those scales rather than just D minor? Or I should think about what notes spell those chords within D minor and base any riffing off of that?

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Spanish Manlove posted:

Pretty much, just a little more involved.

So you'd play the relative mode of each chord, so Dm is your root mode which you'll play D aeolian, then F you can play F major (Ionian) and Am you can play A Phrygian.

Literally it's as if you took Dm and filled out every note on the board that's in Dm, and just solo'd in d minor the whole time, but actually you're accenting the root of the chord. It's a fun technique to teach the whole board and get out of the boxes.

Awesome! I'm not quite there yet, but a dim light bulb flickered for me. The anxiety about settling into blues dad riffing is real. Thanks!

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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BonHair posted:

I'm also very much at this stage, but aside from the very good advice about following the chords, the thing that has made my noodling sound more like real music is repetition. Just playing the same thing twice or more, either just right after each other or with some other stuff between. You can even do variations on your little motif. It makes it sound a lot more planned and cool and less like you're just playing more or less random notes in a scale (which we are).

I even had some luck combining it with chord changes, take your motif and play the same scale degrees in the relative scale. For example, in A minor, I'll play something like "A C E F" over am, but when it goes to dm, I'll play "D F A B", which is kind of the same, but because of the mode change, the minor six becomes a major six.

Cool! This is quite exciting. I've gone from "Man, I'll never master this instrument" to "Wow! I'll never master this instrument!"

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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The Leck posted:

This is some great advice! Things that have helped me the most have been:
- singing a line out to get at least a small idea that sounds good, even if it's surrounded by more noodley stuff
- emphasizing the chord tones to really clarify that you're following the harmony. This can also mean stepping outside the pentatonic, even just for a note or two, which keeps it sounding more interesting
- avoid starting on the 1 - you definitely don't always have to do this, but starting phrases on other beats can really liven things up
- repetition! If you land on something that sounds cool, keep using it. I always think of the Purple Rain solo (9:55 in this video if it doesn't embed right) where it almost seems like he realizes in real time how cool this little lick is and just keeps driving it home. If you go back around 30 seconds in the video, you hear parts of it start to appear, then it all comes together and works perfectly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frbVVDAyJ1w&t=595s

All this talk is getting me super hyped. My guitar teacher is really into using funk like rhythms for general rhythm development and in one of our first lessons was like "don't worry, I won't teach you to play like Prince" and I was like "binch, what ?!" so I hopefully (and perhaps passive aggressively) wore a Prince shirt to my next lesson

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:

forgo the board. embrace pedals on the floor and the horrible mess of cables

Please. I have a board and still manage a mess of cables.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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landgrabber posted:

i haven’t really heard many of these except for ben folds and coltrane— who i didn’t know was from NC but he definitely has my respect!

With what you've posted about your tastes in rock, you might enjoy Superchunk and Archers of Loaf.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Good Soldier Svejk posted:

late 90s/early 2000s MIM necks are like Cinderella's slipper for my hands

love those things, hold on to that forever

Man, my 2001 MIM Strat (acquired through a swap for F-Zero GX, £100 and an entry level Ibanez) has been through the wars of being dropped by a friend at a show and various house moves, and it was kind of beat-up but I'm glad I could never part with it and got it properly set-up, because it's the guitar I keep coming back to. I put 9s on it the other day and I'm in heaven.

It's weird, I had 9s on my much more recent player Tele but they felt like wet noodles - is there any physical reason they feel great on the Strat but not so much the Tele when the necks are so similar?

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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This is a strange question, but does anyone else get absolutely exhausted by practicing? Like, to the extent I often need to nap.

I don't fond playing or practicing boring, but particularly when I'm putting a lot of effort into tightening up rhythm or phrasing, I'm pooped.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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landgrabber posted:

i play for like hours every day dude

my OCD isn't stopping me from playing it's just telling me what stuff to do next :P

i would be really stupid to go "oh i don't have this gear. time to not write songs

every time i post about adventures in music theory or composition on guitar or something, no one responds. at least gear stuff is easy to understand

I don't really respond because I'm not there yet, but I do enjoy reading it. Some of the gear posts come off a little Goldilocks-but-guitars, but we're all particular in our own way.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Ok Comboomer posted:

I’m so mad this summer

:(

Even on a saturdoi noight

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Tenchrono posted:

The Boss Katana owns and guitars own.

I bought one based on this thread and I've been delighted with it. It sounds better than the 15w Park or 5w Blackstar I was using, and I can get a pretty nice sound at low volumes in my flat with the .5w setting. I use pedals more than the settings, but the dirt and reverb are pretty sweet when I can't be arsed unzipping my pedal case. I'm not far beyond "guitar go brrrr", but I can't imagine needing much more than my Player & MIM Tele & Strat and the Katana for like 85% I can imagine doing with guitars for the foreseeable future.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Lumpy posted:

Everyone buys this for as much as you can spare. Let’s get Pat that hot tub money.

He's done this to himself though, he can't spend that money on anything BUT a HT

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Just saved myself about £180 on mods for my VM Jaguar by remembering I don't have to dime the tone and volume all the time and realising it's really quite nice actually.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Spanish Manlove posted:

It's awesome that no one learned poo poo from the past three years about baseless claims dealing with anything medical

Did you guys hear that you have cancer if your hand is bigger than your face?

Worth it for that 7-fret stretch, though!

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Okay I got super hosed up last week and might have joined a goth band, how do I get good fast or how do I change my name and move to Spain?

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Baron von Eevl posted:

Buy a chorus and a digital delay. That's it.

Done and done! Okay. Let's see how this goes!

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Skrill.exe posted:

Why couldn't Rivers just say no?

Because he knows he's a sinner.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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There's a possibility I could pick up an Epiphone Les Paul Special II for £65. What do you guys think? I know they're super budget level, but is it worth having around? It'd be quite different from my Fenders, I guess.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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nitsuga posted:

A beater guitar is always nice to have around. It could make a pretty good tinkering project too. I’ve had only Fender-esque guitars for a while, and the SG I picked up recently is a nice break from them. I think I’m still more of a Fender person though.

I passed in the end. (Very brief, but relevant E/N) I quit drinking recently, and any money that would have been spent in a bar or on a bottle of wine is going into a guitar fund, so the promise of a G&L, Reverend or maybe even an SG is keeping me from craving a cheeky pint and it feels a bit early to break into that fund for an impulse buy.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Dr. Faustus posted:

Congratulations, Disco Pope.

Thank you!

I realise this is babby's first theory and ear training, but I figured out most of "Mad This Summer" last night and I'm still on a high from it.

Doctor Dogballs posted:

you made the right move, these things are complete pieces of poo poo

Yeah... the Paul Westerberg fan in me got snared by the idea of a beater Les Paul, but everything I read suggested that even at that price I wasn't going to enjoy it much.

Wowporn posted:

Idk Weezer comes up a lot in this thread and they are a band that completely slides off me like water off Teflon. When I was first told that they were super influential to emo and that people tone chased their guitar tones as much as they do I was surprised a lot. I like plenty of music that is Sad Boys Singing but just very not River’s flavor of sad boy

I think the tone on Blue is great, but I've always been perplexed by the idea Weezer were influential to emo, but I guess by the early 2000s power-pop, emo and pop-punk were all intersecting on the Venn diagram of sad white boy music.

Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Sep 7, 2022

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Yeah, a double agent is high up my dream guitar list.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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I wish Pat the best hot tub money can by, but its sad to see people in comment sections with no sense of keeping the joke grounded. Shut the gently caress up about them visiting you after you fell in a vat of acid and cool it with the Beato references!

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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I find Justin pretty cool despite myself. He has that "Verily, it is I" way of speaking that triggers my fight-or-flight, and The Darkness' whole thing turns me off, but he seems genuine and I find myself liking his videos.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Folks still love a 335 but the LPs are definitely out of style
or at least the gibson ones are

SGs seem to be having a moment. I don't know, I guess Gibson doesn't need to sell many guitars when selling 2 or 3 a month would feed a family of 86 kids with tapeworms.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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800peepee51doodoo posted:

SGs own, best guitar ever. Gibsons in general are rad, iconic guitars but the company is a mess that's relying exclusively on boomer dollars in a market that makes little sense. I'm always looking through the craigslist music section and the with the number of used LPs that flood the market, it is wild to me that they can hold any value at all. There's just so many of them. But that kind of thing is never rational I guess.

Re Gibson pricing: Gibsons are only produced in the US and USA made Fenders are comparable in price. Fender puts their name on guitars made in non-US factories so the average pricing for Fender branded instruments is lower than Gibson branded instruments. Its a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. Doesn't make the Gibsons any more affordable, though, that's for sure

I know, I'm just being a goofball because I'm unlikely to own an SG any time soon.

Their marketing is kind of wild though, Fender is kind of eating their lunch connecting with new players, while Gibson seems to think 60yr old dentists are immortal.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Ok Comboomer posted:

While they still exist everybody here needs to buy one of the $400 TV Yellow Epiphone LP Specials

Agreed, but also my partner's dad has a Gibson one and it would be weird.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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ColdPie posted:

I've watched a handful of Beato videos and they all seemed to be of the "guy talks for ten minutes and says nothing" variety so I stopped clicking on them.

He did a sit down with the guy from Tool recently, so checks out.

a.p. dent posted:

no joke, ian just always played the same cream colored SG and i thought it looked cool. giving him a signature guitar would be really funny though

Greg Sage from Wipers too, and the guy from Dry Cleaning makes them seem cool as gently caress.

Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Sep 15, 2022

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Helianthus Annuus posted:

lol

On the topic of Les Pauls: the tune-o-matic bridges on them are probably C-tier at best. They offer very little scale length adjustability, and the individual string heights are not adjustable (you have to adjust the height of the whole bridge at each end). Almost any other bridge is better, but these still get used for aesthetic / nostalgia reasons, i suppose.

I also don't like the string break angle at the nut, the middle two strings can bind in the nut when you try to bend, and for that reason it's difficult to keep the instrument in tune.

You can work around these problems, but I would strongly prefer to buy a short-scale dual-humbucker guitar from PRS or some other manufacturer other than Gibson.

I've been looking at a PRS Mira as a possible SG alternative but I can't get over those goofy loving birds.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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homewrecker posted:

There appear to be certain Mira models that have dot inlays but I'm not sure if any of them are currently in production so you would have to be looking at used models.

I'd ultimately be okay with it but the local punks would kick me out the secret punk base where we have a skateboard ramp and arcades and a stage covered with chicken wire.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Buschmaki posted:

This thread inspired me so I bought a Boss Katana Mk. II and a used Fender Player Strat and am gonna learn guitar

Hey, that's what I play most days (sort of, my Strat is a MIM) and I'm very happy. Welcome aboard!

Actually, that reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask the thread - can pick-ups lose potency?

The neck pick-up on my Strat doesn't feel as dark as it used to. It works fine, but the difference between the middle and neck isn't as "woody" as I recall it being, although there is a noticable darkening of the tone. Is this a psychosomatic thing? I did drop to 9s and shelve it for a bit after a got a Tele, so im wondering if I'm looking for that night and day difference you get on a Tele which just isn't there on a Strat, especially with janglier 9s.

Another possibility is I'm just better at playing - I used to avoid neck pick-ups a lot to avoid booming low strings due to en-even strumming, but now I'm better at that, I'm not hearing that unwanted bassy noise I used to get.

Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Sep 23, 2022

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Helianthus Annuus posted:

it's possible for the magnets in the pickup to be degaussed, which reduces the magnetic field strength, so yes!

but pickup height / different strings might be a more likely culprit in your case, unless you have been playing around with powerful magnets

The only highly magnetic thing anything near my sick axe is me, buddy.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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I might be off base, but I think in a lot of ways, LG would really dig The Beths.

They do crunchy power-pop, but all come from jazz school muso backgrounds, so they're rife with neat harmony and song structure stuff and have a cool girl singer who plays a G&L Fallout reissue (and a lead guitarist who plays a gold top Les Paul w/o being your dad's best friend). I'm thinking of asking my teacher to help me work on one of their songs next.

https://youtu.be/CkzI93Aqztk

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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NonzeroCircle posted:

I'd love to see more bands/artists playing "wrong" guitars, like a 335 in a drone band (which would probably work actually) or twee indie but played on an Ibanez RG9, completely ignoring the bottom three strings.
Basically, I want Paul McCartney to ditch the Hofners and play a Karl Sanders spear, and vice versa

It's strange, because we all absolutely know that cool post-hardcore guys absolutely started out playing as nu-metal and buttrock goofs in 2005, but we never see the BC Richs or Jacksons to prove it.

I'm not so sure the Tele is uncool, but the Strat is a weird one. If anything, I find them (aesthetically) kind of invisible. I love mine, but its just kind of "oh, okay, its a guitar". I think that says a lot of positive things about its form and function, but they aren't particularly striking and maybe a little diluted by how often they've been copied. Loads of "cool" bands have used them (including Nirvana) but outside of Hendrix, they kind of evade icon status.

Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Sep 26, 2022

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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I got a good laugh when we saw the full band reveal and every member looked like a soyjack meme.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Spanish Manlove posted:

I actually used to hate sweep picking, in a very similar mindset to landgrabber. But then I got older and realized that I didn't hate the technique, I hated how people used it as a crutch to appear good at solos - mainly from a bunch of local deathcore bands who only ever learned five string a-shape minor arpeggios and didn't know any actual theory. I auditioned for too many bands where I asked "hey what key is this in?" Only to get shrugs and fret numbers from the guitarists. Pretty much put forever put me off trying to join or form a band forever.

It was actually children of bodom that got me to understand that you can use sweep picking as another tool in a solo to quickly ascend or descend between positions, not to use it as the whole solo. Now I don't care because nothing matters, but I still smile when I hear someone using the yngwie style three diminished arpeggios in a row.

I think its okay to do that, to an extent - lots of guitarists will be fine and happy and impressive knowing just numbers, but why they don't want to know *why* a song works and have ways of communicating it to others is foreign to me. I want to know the "rules" so I can make songs interesting by loving with them. I might never get sweep picking down, but I'd like to try it even though its "outside" my genre because there might be times it sounds right.

One of my favourite things about learning is the way it can strip away ego sometimes - J Mascis and Tom Verlaine might be my guitar heroes, but the nicest guitar I've played was a cheesy Ibanez superstrat and I have my eye on a PRS right now...

Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Oct 3, 2022

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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The combination of not drinking, selling some stuff and realising deposits exist mean it's NGD.

I've just pulled the trigger on a Epiphone 1961 Les Paul SG in white. I'm no longer a Little Fender Boy I'm a Gibson(ish) man. I'm almost 40. It's Dad time.

It does mean my VM Jaguar will be looking for a home. I like it, but we fight a little too much.

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