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goferchan posted:Never saw this before lmao. Hang in there if you haven't seen it, it goes places uh yeah holy poo poo lmao like for real. holy poo poo edit: in reference to this. everyone watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCNsx_NyNOU
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No Pants posted:Well, he's playing a character, and it's based in part on some research he did on autistic people (although the character is explicitly not autistic). The bit about why he's doing it might have come from that--autistic people often rehearse conversations as a coping mechanism. What gives you this idea? I think you might be connecting some extra dots here.
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Jul 18, 2022 22:32
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precision posted:uh yeah holy poo poo lmao That was really good. I tried to get into How To and couldn't, unfortunately.
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Jul 18, 2022 22:46
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I tried to figure it out without IMDb but it was driving me nuts how familiar Fake Kor was. It's Mr. Poe from the Unfortunate Series of Events show on Netflix.
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DangerDummy! posted:I tried to figure it out without IMDb but it was driving me nuts how familiar Fake Kor was. It's Mr. Poe from the Unfortunate Series of Events show on Netflix. i swear i've seen the actress in some things as well
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Jul 18, 2022 23:09
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Vegetable posted:Tricia really was a character. Shows up to interview a subject and ends up just talking about herself. I was feeling bad that she’s looking so bad on national TV but she kinda redeemed herself by being so kind about her friend’s lies and sad backstory. Yeah, I read some review that was fairly negative about the show and one of the main points was that Nathan was too cruel to his subjects, including Tricia. But I don’t know, she seemed ok to me? Like yeah, she sure does talk a whole lot but spending most of an interview talking about yourself instead of the person you’re interviewing is pretty funny, so I can’t get mad at someone for pointing it out. Plus she seemed like a good friend overall and Kor obviously cares about her opinion. I do wonder about his “potentially very very violent” comments though. That’s how I feel about most of the people in NFY though. I don’t think his subjects usually came off looking bad or stupid and I don’t think that was ever his intent. They mostly just came off looking kind of weird, either directly through dealing with Nathan’s schemes or from some bizarre offhand comment they make that gives you some unexpected insight into their life.
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Jul 19, 2022 00:03
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Nathan wrecked that horrible toy company man who doesn't care about anyone's feelings. Guy deserved it but just saying Nathan has a brutal side when he wants to.
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Jul 19, 2022 00:13
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atrus50 posted:so a thing about the match cut scene is that i think it's a bit overambitious about said match cut. Where exactly is this conversation taking place? I assume it's at the warehouse. but then it draws attention to the chronology if that's the case. Could have used an establishing shot of kor & nathan debriefing at the warehouse after the bar. but the jacket nathan wears kinda points to the conversation happening outside, as he never wears a jacket when at the warehouse, and the tie is conspicuous about his outfit being quite different. it's set up like a magic trick to show as little of the setting as possible, so it seems like it could have taken place immediately after the encounter in an alley outside the bar. which points either towards the actor's reaction being shot after so that the cuts would match, or a higher degree of stoogism than anticipated. Either way, an ecstatic truth And yeah I guess they could have shot the "rehearsal" one after his conversation with Kor, which would be slightly cheating... but doesn't really change all that much?
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Jul 19, 2022 00:16
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Khanstant posted:Nathan wrecked that horrible toy company man who doesn't care about anyone's feelings. Guy deserved it but just saying Nathan has a brutal side when he wants to. Yeah, that’s why I said most, although I forgot about that dude and yeah, he really sucked. He wasn’t just some innocent guy who got hoodwinked by Nathan into appearing bad.
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Jul 19, 2022 00:16
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my baseline for reality tv cruelty is season 1 of charm school which i think is a masterpiece but is really mean spirited and if it was a little bit meaner i would hate it. nathan is way nicer than that show so he is a sweet lil angel in my book.
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Jul 19, 2022 00:16
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I think Tricia came off looking pretty bad, but if that's who she is, it's kind of hard to argue with. I did think it was funny that Kor was very openly like "yeah she can be very violent" and "she always complains and she's mad every time she comes in" and "you can't get a word in edgewise" AND YET she's one of his very closest friends and he's presumably fine with all that
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Jul 19, 2022 00:22
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like I'm not gonna want to be her friend but I don't think she looks bad, it's just a lot of person you don't know all at once and everyone is weird. Kor was a weird dude too. It's nice harmless weirdos are friends and value one another and it's very interesting to see what kind of strange people are, people that aren't characters or actors. Well except of course they are all actors and the whole show is a scripted and curated kayfabe based on people we never see, but the "authentic people are unusual beasts once you get a look at em" vibe remains
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Jul 19, 2022 00:28
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The overall vibe I got from NFY and especially John Wilson is “people sure are weird, huh” not “haha look at this crazy weirdo!” Even a seemingly normal person is pretty weird when you look a little closer at them. I’d say just like the viewers, but we’re all goons here so.
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Jul 19, 2022 00:38
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Tricia is fine. Kor is just a very neurotic guy with fixations imo. I think that’s what the episode title “means.” Kor has a very specific drink order. Those small choices are variables. I kept expecting the bar to only have juice with pulp because of how heavily it was emphasized, but it’s just this small expression of powerlessness. No pulp. What’s the difference really? It’s just a small way to exert control over your life.
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Jul 19, 2022 00:39
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imo when people say nathan is being "cruel" they really mean "he's letting them show everyone what they are like and, shockingly, they have flaws"
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Jul 19, 2022 00:40
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literally who likes juice with pulp anyway? the only thing weird about saying it is that no bar in the literal world uses juice with pulp
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Jul 19, 2022 00:41
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nathan was being cruel by making kor a trivia cheat and forever tainting his integrity
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Jul 19, 2022 00:42
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I like pulp in my juice and crust on my bread.
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Jul 19, 2022 00:43
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unironically give fake Tricia an Emmy. what a perfect show. it's my favourite episode of my favourite show on a suped up budget.
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Jul 19, 2022 00:45
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Kor is innocent and should not feel like he cheated. He just absorbed information about random things from his surroundings and conversations, like any good trivia player would do. And he still managed to get some wrong.
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Jul 19, 2022 00:47
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I did find myself saying "Oh yeah, that's a super smart thing to consider," to Nathan's suggestions more than I'd like to admit. Specifically with the "You drank your orange juice too fast, now the waiter is going to come and interrupt you," I looked over at my partner and said "That's super smart!" and she just gave me a very worried and knowing look.
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mennoknight posted:unironically give fake Tricia an Emmy. empty quote Sudden Loud Noise posted:I did find myself saying "Oh yeah, that's a super smart thing to consider," to Nathan's suggestions more than I'd like to admit. Specifically with the "You drank your orange juice too fast, now the waiter is going to come and interrupt you," I looked over at my partner and said "That's super smart!" and she just gave me a very worried and knowing look. This is me and most of the business ideas in nathan for you. Poo flavor yogurt? Yeah seems like a good way to attract dummies who like gimmicks.
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:I did find myself saying "Oh yeah, that's a super smart thing to consider," to Nathan's suggestions more than I'd like to admit. Specifically with the "You drank your orange juice too fast, now the waiter is going to come and interrupt you," I looked over at my partner and said "That's super smart!" and she just gave me a very worried and knowing look. I gasped a bit when Kor started his confession and was immediately interrupted by the pizza bell. Maybe they had considered that possibility, but Kor seemed thrown off. Tricia came in with the save though, thank god.
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Aye Doc posted:nathan was being cruel by making kor a trivia cheat and forever tainting his integrity that might be the most hosed up thing he's ever done
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I'm trying to imagine someone who is both really into trivia and unaware gunpowder originated in China. Perhaps Nathan attempted to incept some harder, later round questions but the ones portrayed were pretty harmless.
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Jul 19, 2022 01:25
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I'm trying to imagine someone who is both really into trivia and unaware gunpowder originated in China. Perhaps Nathan attempted to incept some harder, later round questions but the ones portrayed were pretty harmless.
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Jul 19, 2022 01:27
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This is where we learn Kor was the actor all along. Nathan hired him personally and in secret to string along every other person involved with the show. But you would be surprised by how many people love trivia nights, and who those people are educationally, professionally, even socially. Lotta introverts surprisingly.
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Jul 19, 2022 01:31
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I think it makes sense for a lot of nerdy introverts to gravitate towards trivia. It lets you participate in a "going out, drinking with friends" kind of scene but with a ton of structure, and a game to always focus on so you don't have to worry about conversation dying out. And it can let them (I guess I should say "us" heh) feel socially rewarded for being smart (or at least thinking they are).
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ShowTime posted:This is where we learn Kor was the actor all along. Nathan hired him personally and in secret to string along every other person involved with the show. Episode 2 features a 1:1 reproduction of the episode 1 training set so the actor who pretended to be Kor can apologize to the actor who pretended to be Kor.
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NYC has a million trivia nights. The reason those two people with kind of confusing jobs and maybe not a lot of money are at Alligator Lounge, for their trivia night specifically, is that Alligator Lounge famously/infamously gives you a free pizza with every drink. That's why he knew they were definitely getting pizza and when, that's what the whole conversation about tickets/coupons was about. The clientele that that draws tends a bit different even from other trivia nights.
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Jul 19, 2022 02:04
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Interesting. Probably impossible to tell, but can you tell if the rehearsal pizza is from the Alligator? That would be a cool little detail to know.
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Tbf Trivia rules if you can sneak into a team of smart people and eat and drink for free once a week. I used to have a regular team gig with a group that contained a literal rocket scientist and we usually made money.
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Or just get onto a team of people (even including yourself) that know something about a niche topic. We did them at a board game store/cafe I used to manage and we did everything from movie trivia to Magic: the Gathering trivia. The MTG was actually a big hit since our store had a big community.
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ShowTime posted:Interesting. Probably impossible to tell, but can you tell if the rehearsal pizza is from the Alligator? That would be a cool little detail to know.
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my theory is that trivia nights are explicitly popular among people who don't actually know that much trivia because of the dunning kruger effect i've been to a few trivia nights and to me all the questions just seemed super easy. like, if you wanna feel really smart about knowing who echo and the bunnymen are, go to a trivia night
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Jul 19, 2022 02:18
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lets all go to trivia night together as a group :)
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If you haven’t played in the Something Awful 90FM Trivia Team you all should. It’s an awesome contest.
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Snooze Cruise posted:lets all go to trivia night together as a group lets form a group of NFY superfans who go to trivia nights in NFY t-shirts brainstorm NFY themed team names
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precision posted:my theory is that trivia nights are explicitly popular among people who don't actually know that much trivia because of the dunning kruger effect I think it was pretty clear kor didn't know much trivia even on his self-proclaimed best subject, TV. All plays in to his general anxiety about being an intellectual fraud. So of course Nathan commits intellectual fraud on kor's behalf.
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precision posted:lets form a group of NFY superfans who go to trivia nights in NFY t-shirts The problem: you're legally obligated to disclose a certain status
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