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Pretty good first episode and I'm excited to see where this show goes. I really liked the shot in the kitchen where Asher was talking to Whitney through the mirror and the shot at the end through the keyhole where they are talking. Part of me misses Nathan doing the comedy of Nathan for You but he can do tense scenes well too. I appreciate that he does still add some humor to his shows through keeping awkward moments and the ideas like Dougie's. The burn victim reality show that Dougie made was something straight out of 2000s reality TV and would have been a great lead into Extreme Makeover.
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I think that Avian was implying that Whitney had an affair with Dougie at some point that hasn't been shown or talked about on screen yet. There's the scene in the first episode where Dougie comforts and encourages Whitney doing voice overs that could imply there are stronger feelings, at least that Dougie has towards Whitney. Theres also the small penis thing that could imply that Whitney is not sexually satisfied with Asher in there relastionship and is cheating, though it hasn't been said. The problem I've had with the show is it seems like they are opening up a ton of plots and not really going anywhere with any of them. It's only the first 4 episodes so I'm assuming they are going to stop adding new stories and start resolving some. What happened with the casino thing?
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I didn't pick up on that, but I might have missed it. I think he was just a blue lives matter guy who was really into the survivalist/self sustaining aspect of the house. If you ask any American whether they have Native American ancestry there's like a 50% chance minimum they will say they do so I saw that reaction as pretty genuine. Asher seems to be really protective of Whitney in a dangerous way though. When the first home buyer called Whitney "a little much" Asher freaked out and told her to shut the gently caress up or something similar. A complete overreaction. Whitney seems like she has good intentions but thinks she can save a whole community by herself. Giving out her credit card number to the jean store so they wouldn't call the cop's is nice, but it also shows how different her economic situation is than everyone else in the community. Or employing the guy for the coffee shop in the first episode without realizing the coffee shop might not actually be around the next day and when it was gone, she gave him a "security job" where she doesn't actually want the guy to do security and she isn't comfortable enough to approach the guy she's trying to help.
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Dec 11, 2023 18:10
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Nathan is so good at making fake tv stuff. The Hunk, that fake reality show he made for the security guard obsessed with large boobs, the burn victim show, and now this clip. I love how serious he can play his jokes.
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Dec 15, 2023 21:01
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Somebody is gonna get shot by Fernando by accident, maybe one of the little girls who tiny cursed Asher. If they don't do anything with the gun, I'll be disappointed because they brought it up in multiple episodes. I don't really know where the whole plot is going resolve at though because so much has been brought up and not fully addressed. Dougie's DUI, Asher and the casino, Whitney and her parents and the whole HGTV setup to the show need to be resolved. The preview for the next episode on IMDB says "Whitney and Cara become closer as Asher's past comes to light." So maybe something with the casino and its relation to the tribes in the area?
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Dec 17, 2023 20:06
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Harriet Carker posted:I think you're missing the point. The gun shows that Fernando knows this is a rough neighborhood but Whitney's anxiousness around it highlights that she doesn't accept the reality of life in the community and would prefer it to be gentrified. Nobody needs to get shot - I don't think this is that kind of show. I got that part it just seems like such a strong point to put a gun in the show. I think like they showed Whitney not fitting in with the neighborhood well with her interactions at the jeans store, the walk around the neighborhood trying to talk to people and her interactions with Abshir. I also think he's going to shoot someone innocent in the day because they moved his shift to the daytime, but I don't think they mentioned it in the show unless I missed it. Whitney and Asher are the curse on the people living in the neighborhood they interact with. Edit: If there joking about a million dollars for the ending than I doubt this would be the conclusion completely, I just hope they didn't get so into making the ending unexpected that it ends up being weaker than a more expected option. gurragadon fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Dec 18, 2023 |
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I think Nathan For You is his best and will probably always be his best work. It's top 10 all time for me. I liked The Rehearsal when I was watching it but I can't remember much about it now, it didn't really stick with me like Nathan For You does. None of his other work I've seen has had the focus of Nathan For You either. The Rehersal was trying to find a point for a lot of it and I cant fully judge The Curse yet but it is a bit all over the place with introducing plot points. Edit: How to is How to with John Wilson? I haven't seen that but didn't know Nathan was involved with it either. gurragadon fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Dec 20, 2023 |
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Cool I kept seeing ads for it on HBO max but didn't give it much of a look. I'll try it out and see how I like it.
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The woman that walked into the room while Cara and Whitney were talking was her roommate I think, and the interaction was tense. I assume it's them fighting or accusing each other of stealing food and Cara locking it up because of that. I liked the scene where Asher looked all distorted and monstrous while getting makeup put on to call back to the comedy class scene talking about Rodney Dangerfield. He definitely did not have a good episode. gurragadon fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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God Hole posted:comedy class dude absolutely set up an impromptu "self-deprecation" lesson after Asher approached him with his penis issue It could have been intimate, I didn't think along those lines because of the plot about Cara and Dougie flirting. I find myself more and more sympathetic to Dougie as the show goes on. He seems like he wants to have a real friendship with Cara and Asher, but they keep rejecting him and he's lonely. I think him getting mad about not being invited to dinner in the latest episode is the third time that has happened. He did something bad to Asher back in the day that Asher says he forgives him for but I don't think he fully does.
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Dec 23, 2023 18:57
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I think there just non famous actors, I was clicking through the names that show up on google and they all have acting experience, just not very much. Doing that made me remember the call back to NFY and Simon See's. Gotta keep that industry cred in the forefront. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvrcHpipzmA&t=18s Edit: Simon See's not Says!
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I hope it doesn't end in an episode that's a true crime documentary, just because I don't really like them, but it would make sense to comment on misleading editing in that way. We saw the whole actual story this season and then they end it with the deceptively edited "documentary" of the events. This last episode was fantastic though, probably my favorite so far. Loved the scene where Cara is just so blunt with Whitney about their relationship that Whitney couldn't really deny it. There's a lamp in that scene above Caras head that looks like a boom mic to me, just showing how fake the whole thing is. I was thinking about the first scene too and how far Whitney has abandoned what she wanted to do with the show. She was so upset that Dougie faked Fernandos mom crying, and then in this last episode she was fabricating conversations whole cloth using Cara.
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Dec 30, 2023 17:16
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Fernando is protective of the jean store clerk. She says that Fernando made her feel better after that first time the cops showed up. He calls her a "good kid" or something similar to Whitney too after that. Just a parental kind of feeling towards the clerk. The secretary in Whitney's office is older and that relationship with Fernando dosen't seem like a parental one, just a friendly work relationship.
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Dec 31, 2023 18:10
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It is a strong intro to the music video. I don't know for sure but watching them both I think it's inspired by the introduction to the found footage style movie Gang Tapes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_Tapes Pretty good movie if you've never seen it before, nothing like The Curse though obviously.
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^^ I didn't think that was hair but I was watching on a small screen.^^ That was a great episode, can't wait to see how this thing concludes next week. Love how Whitney is now cursed to be with Asher if she wants her show. Anyone else thinking Dougie is doing a documentary on Whitney and her slumlord parents? Looked like a microphone fell out of the womans hair who was talking to Whitney about her parents being evicted. All the 4th wall breaks I remember have involved Whitney in some way. A line from Marjorie in the last episode really stuck with me. She said "If you look deep down enough you can find something bad in anyone." People usually say that the other way around and saying it to Whitney is another person saying they see her for who she really is.
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I really like the show but I don't really think it is a comedy at all. Nathan Fielder is a comedian but this show is a drama. The cringe is drama and not funny like in Nathan For You. I guess you could call it a "back comedy" but I think thats stretching that term pretty far.
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I think it's considered funnier than it is because Fielder is in it and wrote it. If it was someone else, it wouldn't be considered a comedy at all. Not to say there are no funny moments, The Fire Burns On was great, but I just don't think they are going for humor with this show except to break up the tension.
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I am similarly surprised at your take; the show is so ominous. But it's a good show either way.
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There are tons of posts about the drama and theories which is where I think the real gold is with this show. I didn't really think The Rehearsal was funny either, so I just don't think we think the same things are funny outside of Nathan for You tbh.
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deep dish peat moss posted:I don't know about that - Good Time is a very similar style of humor and is the Safdies minus Fielder and it landed as a comedy. They both land in the same Comedy of Errors category imo I had never seen this movie before, but it was pretty good. It was super tense though and kind of raw with the violence. I didn't really find it landing as a comedy even though a few funny misfortunes did cause the plot to move forward. They kind of felt like very brief reprieves. It was too violent, and the main character was too unlikable who did to many bad things. I kind of feel the same way about the curse and why it doesn't land as a comedy minus the violence but more tense.
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veni veni veni posted:I think the most outright funny/light part of the show is the side characters and their little quirks. I don’t know how someone could watch last weeks episode with Brett and say the show isn’t funny. But really it’s like, nearly all of them. The “home buyer” couple and the awkward way they act on camera, the rich white kids stealing jeans, even little things like the gym coach eating Cherries and having a disgusting bag full of cherry pit sludge made me laugh. I don’t even know where to begin because there’s so many characters and little moments that made me laugh. Yeah, it's interesting that we both like the show but see it really differently. The Brett stuff and love in the first degree were funny, but the rest of that wasn't to me. I didn't think most of it was trying to come off as funny either. The gym coach just felt more voyeuristic with the lingering shot on him. Most of the penis stuff hasn't really been funny, the first conversation was still uncomfortable for Asher and when he tries to make it funny, he is unfairly blamed for the teachers' bad jokes and insistence on talking about it. Rich kids stealing jeans just seems like a setup for the Fernando scene and was overall bland. Most of the stuff comes off as them trying to be serious and there are a few jokes because Nathan Fielder, and I think Benny Safdie after watching Good Time, uses comedy well to break some tension.
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beepo posted:Very little of the humor follows a standard set up and punchline format, is written to be quippy, or is clear parody like the "Love to the Third Degree" show. A lot of it has to do with social interaction, expectations, timing, and other stuff. If two people in unison (for whatever reason?) reading the longest land acknowledgment of all time, as part of their greenwashing show, doesn't register as a clear joke, then we just see things differently. I don't think most of that stuff is really intended to come across as funny and the few jokes that are obvious are to lighten tension, like the love in the first degree or the land acknowledgment. Just because some things are funny doesn't make it a comedy to me. Alot (most?) serious things have some comedy in it. The focus of the show isn't to be humorous and calling it a comedy is pretty misleading IMO. Personally, I'm not watching this show for humor at all, but to see how this relationship and story pans out. It's edited in a way with ominous sound to make it seem even less funny to me. Harminoff posted:I mean the movie "Happiness" is considered a comedy, but I'd say that is even more off putting and non comedy than this is. Never seen this but I'll try to check it out tonight to see how I think it compares, been some really good recs from this thread. gurragadon fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jan 10, 2024 |
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beepo posted:Ehh, other people have a different view on what is a comedy. It may just be that the style doesn't work for you. If I didn't like RomComs and tried to argue that it is actually misleading to call it comedy, it might not go over well, even if I genuinely didn't find them funny. Like I said some parts are funny to break tension. The overall thrust of the show isn't comedy to me it's serious. I understand the type of comedy but if it wasn't a comedian in one of the main roles, I don't think it would be emphasized as much in conversation about the show. If I recommended this show it would be as a psychological thriller, not as a comedy. I don't think people are wrong for finding parts of the show funny or anything, comedy is subjective. I also don't think the show is worse because I don't find those small moments that some of you find humor in funny. I like the show.
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Harminoff posted:Oh boy, report back once you do! We are talking about the Todd Solondz movie. Went into that one blind and I had never heard of the director before. Quite the subject matter. The trailer is excellent too, makes the thing look like a romantic comedy or buddy film. They do sneak in some pretty messed up lines though. Happiness makes me think more comedy than The Curse because there editing to make it funny with the camera and music which is super upbeat, whereas The Curse does the opposite. Twigand Berries posted:Much like happiness, this will only end in cum. The final shot was good but didn't quite live up to the continuous shot at the end of Pink Flamingo's. graventy posted:I don't personally find it very funny either, it is awkward dark humor with a heavy focus on the awkward and dark. I'm interested in seeing where it goes but it feels like I'm watching through my hands a lot at this point. I think Whitney had convinced herself over the filming and watching the edited shows that she wanted a divorce. The potter cut was pretty rough on Asher. I think it also hurt her ego some because she can't just be the Green Queen without her Jester, she needs "someone" there, but she's stuck with Asher who she has grown to dislike.
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I'm gonna need someone to explain that ending to me as directly as Cara explaining her art to Whitney because idgi.
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I didn't think that ending worked. I probably would have thought the ending landed better if the season was half as long or if I could have binged it in a long weekend.
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Real post on this one. I felt pretty let down by the ending. I think the series would have been better suited with a different ending and this episode being released as a movie. There are too many threads that were opened and not resolved in any meaningful way. I kind of feel like they wasted my time with so many misdirects that basically the whole series is a prelude to a tangentially related fantasy movie about reluctance to becoming a parent. I don't understand why Asher flies away like a mythical figure, it's like the writers are saying only a divine intervention can remove the gentrifiers. All the things that seemed to be hinting about others doing in the background at by the voyeurism and mysterious shots are dismissed as nothing. It is not in line with the rest of the show being about curses being in the mind. All of a sudden, they are real. I found the minor characters stories more interesting and thought the overall narrative was really neglected for an unexpected ending. I didn't understand Abshir in the final episode, where were his kids? Who as that guy in Abshir's house? Why even add that part in with how the back half went? Fernando, Phoebe, Whitney's parents, and even Dougie feel unfinished to me. Cara got a satisfying enough ending to me with her interaction with Whitney at the massage parlor. I guess I don't get what they were going for or what they were trying to say with this series. Any Q/A's about the whole series with Fielder/Safdie out yet?
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This is kind of fungurragadon posted:The problem I've had with the show is it seems like they are opening up a ton of plots and not really going anywhere with any of them. It's only the first 4 episodes so I'm assuming they are going to stop adding new stories and start resolving some. What happened with the casino thing? gurragadon posted:I don't really know where the whole plot is going resolve at though because so much has been brought up and not fully addressed. Dougie's DUI, Asher and the casino, Whitney and her parents and the whole HGTV setup to the show need to be resolved. gurragadon posted:Edit: If there joking about a million dollars for the ending than I doubt this would be the conclusion completely, I just hope they didn't get so into making the ending unexpected that it ends up being weaker than a more expected option. Nathan clearly is not listening to me. gurragadon posted:There are tons of posts about the drama and theories which is where I think the real gold is with this show. I didn't really think The Rehearsal was funny either, so I just don't think we think the same things are funny outside of Nathan for You tbh. I hated the ending but everyone's theories after watching the finale have been pretty fun to read, even if I can't add much. Most of the religious stuff and talk about it being reflective of show business were things I hadn't thought about really. gurragadon fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Jan 13, 2024 |
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wizardofloneliness posted:It seems like the people who are most disappointed in the ending were expecting there to be some kind of big reveal about the show that would “solve” it and explain the weird stuff, especially the voyeuristic way it was shot. I guess I can see it being kind of a let down when it’s “just” a stylistic choice if you were expecting something a lot bigger. I always interpreted it that way though, so nothing about it was disappointing to me. The reason I didn't like the final episode was that it was very disconnected from the rest of the show. The rest of the series repeatedly rejects 'curses' as real, and it plays on the psychological aspect of them. The tense music and editing play into this. Abshir says its directly. So now curses are real? By trying to bluntly put out this message of supernatural rebirth, which I didn't notice at first, but people have been talking about in the thread, they end up making the overall series unclear. Characters that are moderately developed are never fully developed which I find very frustrating. Dougie's DUI's and ex-wife stuff aren't really completely resolved, or even relevant to anything in the finale even though they take up a large amount of screen time. Whitney's problems having children because of previous abortions is just brushed over and her pregnancy is the focus. Why add that part in the first place? They consciously choose to add everything in, but it seems like it was just to mislead or waste the viewer's time. Fernando just quitting was out of character in my opinion. Dude carries around a gun everywhere, hangs out with militia and was very upset with Asher and Whitney. The house didn't seem relevant to the finale either, besides the initial thought of an "air pocket." Espanola didn't seem relevant to the story, besides the throwaway line about going to that hospital out of necessity. I didn't really need a super connected ending, but I was disappointed they didn't even try to end some of those stories in a stronger way. But I definitely agree with this. Caesar Saladin posted:You can say what you want about the episode but its impressive its cultivating this level of discussion, with so many interpretations about what it means, which all seem quite valid.
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I don't think it's ever really stated but he could easily be a squatter. But like just refuse the gift. Or say you need to think about it. Or ask about the logistics but say thank you. If somebody gives you a house that you have been living in for several years you should accept it.
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Final episode was just a dream sequence and the story continues.
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