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wa27 posted:Holy poo poo the final scene was amazing Yeah, I didn't notice the switch (don't phone and tv at the same time) for about the first 15 seconds and wowo. Really amazing poo poo. Nathan is doing the most high concept and prescient show for our time and it's only been one episode. a new study bible! fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jul 17, 2022 |
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RestingB1tchFace posted:That caught me so off guard that I couldn't help but laugh out loud. I feel like that part may very well have been scripted....but I really don't care. I think it would be very funny if the person who he thinks he is helping gets very upset at him for something he did or did not tell them at the end of every episode. If you haven't watched How To With John Wilson on HBO check it out. It lacks the comedic structure of NFY but it really wallows in the same absurdity and escalation. Nathan Fielder is a producer on it, and it is very well made.
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veni veni veni posted:That rules that some people missed it. Yeah, part of what makes me think this show is already in the brilliant-tier is that Nathan has managed to better explore our cultural fascination with multi-verses (because we all know that this planet and all of us are doomed) better than any Disney or Rick and Morty poo poo. He's literally making mandela effects in the show.
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sticksy posted:One of the many, many highlights from How To Absolutely, but in How To the audience is in on the joke and in this the audience can become the victims of it. I can't wait to see how Nathan continues to blur the line between reality and simulation.
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Jul 18, 2022 04:18
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It was a personal victory wrapped in the most sinister stuff he’s ever done. There’s a reason that Wonka music at the end is so haunting.
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Jul 18, 2022 06:13
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Professor Wayne posted:The editing was effective, but I'm not sure if anything from this episode was more sinister than making a kid cry with goofy footage of their pet in heaven, convincing parents to put their kid in a soundproof box feet away from an orgy, or any interaction from the Hunk Those situations are more explicitly uncomfortable and disturbing, as is much of Nathan for You (poop flavored yogurt!) but I was thinking more in terms of social critique and implication. I want to try and better compose my thoughts, but the show is tapping into this very real kernel of anxiety and suggesting that the best solution is to dehumanize yourself, become an actor in your own life, and granularly manipulate the world around you to make your navigation as simple as possible. That creates its own stress of course, and the entire process can become so insanely recursive that you don't know what's real and what's simulated. How long will we go into the season before Nathan is running simulations of simulations? Spoiler for the Episode 2 Preview (aired at the end of Episode 1) In the next episode, The Alligator Lounge appears rebuilt in a different warehouse. We obviously don't know the context, but what if this is a simulation of the simulated Alligator Lounge? Seems unlikely in the context of the episode preview, but it would illustrate the idea of cocentric simulations.
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Jul 18, 2022 15:35
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Tricia is fine. Kor is just a very neurotic guy with fixations imo. I think that’s what the episode title “means.” Kor has a very specific drink order. Those small choices are variables. I kept expecting the bar to only have juice with pulp because of how heavily it was emphasized, but it’s just this small expression of powerlessness. No pulp. What’s the difference really? It’s just a small way to exert control over your life.
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If you haven’t played in the Something Awful 90FM Trivia Team you all should. It’s an awesome contest.
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Jul 19, 2022 02:55
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It also isn't that hard to imagine the rehearsal and alley shot were performed in the proper sequence. I'm sure there are other people involved in the production of the show, so you just have a person approach them and say "Hey Kor, we'd like to get a shot of you and Nathan speaking in this alley. Please sit here." bing bong But also I think you have to accept that there's some magic in the editing and that Nathan isn't actually an autistic puppet master who simulates his own reality dozens of times before an event.
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Jul 19, 2022 05:15
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The part with fake Kor is a part of a metanarrative anyway. It's a separate story with a different chronology that spans across multiple shows.
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The difference between reality and simulation is mostly arbitrary already (if you have enough money)
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Paper Lion posted:literally all art and media are artifice crafted by another human, there is no truth inherent to the products, only glimmers of ideas that you can then interpret to form into your own truths. namaste
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sticksy posted:This show somehow ran for 3 seasons on ID, wonder if he ever thanked Nathan or played football with him properly no fuckign way
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Professor Wayne posted:But you don't want to go all Hank Hill in that episode where he locks his wife in a coffin. You are also not supposed to get angry that a magician is lying to you about really having magic powers or that magicians are ruining the lives of the people from the audience they bring on stage. But what if I did
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What is it about Nathan that attracts the most parasocial viewership?
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Not enough love for the episode 2 MVP. The Nightowl.
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Jul 23, 2022 20:56
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Give Nathan the Emmy already Jesus Christ. That episode was amazing.
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fosborb posted:but it's creating hilarious looking headlines Which poster wrote this
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Who are these low-iq TV writers taking a Nathan Fielder show at completely face value?
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"I'm starting to think this show isn't really about helping people!"
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What a beautiful, unusual show. My wife is convinced that the whole Angela story is a way for Nathan to process his real life divorce, and while I'm not sure it's that explicit, I love how it's a perfectly viable read for the show. a new study bible! fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Aug 14, 2022 |
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Puppy Galaxy posted:Last scene got me real good, both in the way it was set up and just how Nathan played it. I wonder if they screened for a pro-isreal person or just rolled the dice The last scene is so good. Nathan understands that we never break the cycles, just reconstitute it in a different form.
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I love that Nathan cut off all the shallow critiques of The Rehearsal while simultaneously exposing their creators as being just as guilty of the narcissistic overindulgence they accuse him of.
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roomtone posted:I think the disconnect for me is that it isn't actually about Nathan the show runner, it's about Nathan the character on the show. His persona has blurred a bit by now, but the real Nathan isn't actually invested in the rehearsal other than to make an entertaining show. Most others on the show are being themselves, relatively speaking, so you're always aware how much Nathan isn't. There aren't any stakes for him, so as he's become the subject, I feel like I'm just watching a guy trying to wring something out of a concept that has expired. I don't see where the comedic or dramatic tension is anymore. drat can you introduce me to Nathan because you must be his best friend with how much you know of his personal investment in his television show. You’re probably right though, this highly introspective and thought provoking show probably means nothing to him on a personal level!
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It’s like some of you don’t even watch the episodes.
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It’s not like we don’t have years worth of a progenitor series that explicitly blurs the lines between reality and artifice already. What an insanely dull critique.
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Aug 14, 2022 23:46
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The thing I respected most about the final episode is how there is no big reveal. It would have been satisfying to see that this was all some middle layer created in preparation for a a more real layer of reality, but that would demystify almost the entirety of the series. He stays committed to the ambiguity and it’s the correct move imo. I did love how the final scene maintains Nathan’s character ambiguity- has he fallen so deep that his default layer is now that of the rehearsal… that Adam is now his real child and he is a single dad? Or is he still rehearsing in the Amber level, where she is telling Remy that she is fulfilling the mother and father role in the house… that she can be both?
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Series high point for me was the man having a moment of true insight and beautiful reflection inside the Raisin Canes before deciding that he didn’t need to continue rehearsing such an important moment of his life.
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Fake Angela was a close #2 though. Give her an Emmy.
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EvilBlackRailgun posted:Tell him that your grandmother died and he is in your spot
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I dont want to write a bunch of poo poo that's already been written a million times, but holy poo poo that was incredible. The show isn't perfect by any stretch, but it clearly fits in perfectly into Nathan Fielder's oeuvre. You really have to have seen all of his other tv work to appreciate it. He is the most alienated person on the planet.
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Obviously art should stand alone but if you aren't thinking about this show within the context of his other work it's never going to land fully.  
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it's all a metaphor for his art. Whitney is the networks. That final dinner scene is all about The Rehearsal (see screenshots below). He literally presents Whitney with a model house and she asks if they will be able to afford it. I swear I once read something about HBO cutting the number of episodes of The Rehearsal down because of budgetary concerns, but maybe I am making that up. Regardless, once the product has been birthed into the world, Nathan must return to living behind a facade that can at best mirror the world with minor distortions or face an alienation that is so total it can only be likened to death.
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The Dave posted:It’s also funny that they wanted their show to be real and authentic and by the time we get to the finale the townspeople see that happening and just think “oh must be part of their tv show”. This line is also why we have to accept the show as a metaphor for Fielders career at large.
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resident posted:I think you’re spot on. The final scene with Abshir is meant to mirror the experience of Nathan and his production crews offboarding the non-actors featured in his other shows. He expects them to be excited about being featured in his art and having 15 minutes of fame but their actual reaction tends to be self centered and thankless bewilderment and wondering if/when they’re getting paid. I hadn’t considered this at all but it really makes a lot of sense and is very well put. Thank you. I honestly can’t fathom how to structure it all, but I had a few different thoughts that also contributed to this read: the scene where Asher and his colleague laugh as the woman imagines how she will spend all of her nullified casino winnings is very in line with stuff that he’s done in his other shows, but also the act of the laughing at her reminded me of the criticisms that scrutinize Nathan’s callousness and treatment of non-actors on the shows. All of that press of how mean The Rehearsal is was always to stupid and missed the point entirely. - obviously the entire concept of Flipanthropy mirrors the setup of Nathan for You and The Rehearsal (helping people but also exercising an ulterior motive that cuts against the benevolence) - building off your thought, Nathan is cursed on multiple levels 1) the bystanders subjected to his pranks 2) the production crews who have to work with him 3) the networks themselves. -that whole dinner scene is so rich with stuff to unpack. Whitney/The Network is concerned about going broke but Asher gestures to the model home and says it’s okay because they will have the product of his obsessive worldbuilding which is made literal for the scene. Whitney has wasted a significant amount of money on token gestures of virtue signaling, the jeans, the certification for the houses, stealth modifications to the houses that nullify those certs, recasts and reshoots because she doesn’t like the people in the episodes, etc. Seems like a criticism of network hypocrisy -I think that Nathan is using Asher’s Judaism as a proxy for some larger and indescribable artistic drive or merit, but maybe I’m stretching. It just fits so well that Asher has to assure Whitney that she is just as Jewish as he is, and it read to me like Nathan was assuring the networks that they are legitimate artists on his level even though they are really just financiers who don’t get it. -the curse itself is Nathan’s complete alienation and inability to exist on the same level as most people. Obvs he’s developed this theme across at least 4 shows, and they all have caused viewers to question how much is Nathan putting on an act for the cameras, hence the importance of those final lines. And then the camera moves back into the mirrored chamber of the home. It’s like the camera assumes the position of Nathan’s psyche or id or something and it begins the process of mimicking the outside world again. -real artists see Nathan’s work as lacking for merit because of his associations with the networks -the Rachel Ray thing is so good and uncomfortable and aside from working to affirm how alienating Asher himself is, it could also represent how the networks that become married to Nathan feel about their associations. Whitney is mostly embarrassed as she sits there holding Asher’s nearly developed baby, and it is clear that Rachel Ray (and of course the Sopranos actor, which is of course real prestige tv) hasn’t seen the show, isn’t interested, and mostly just thinks it’s weird so she ignores it. Sorry for the rambles these were just a few of my thoughts regarding a larger meta read. I’m sure I’m stretching a bit.
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resident posted:I think these are all valid interpretations and fit the proposed theme super well. Also forgot to write earlier that the angry PA spoiling the baby's gender could represent production crews that spoil the magic or mystery of the shows he's making. Also Dougie is John Wilson, obviously! He won't ever stop filiming and consistently mocks Nathan for his little dick and voyeur fetish lol
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Junkenstein posted:Couldn't help thinking about a recent existential cosmic horror film but naming it might be a bit of a spoiler to anyone yet to see it. Would you mind naming it in a spoiler?
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