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Lib and let die posted:Kidding aside, if there are really "severe" issues plaguing d&d, I don't think the solution is to bring in more ARE TROOPS mods like Ralph or CGIR or more functionary "this is a I.b.2.¶G.§3., user loses posting privileges for x hours" systems administrator like CZS; bring a behavioral specialist in. Bring people with actual conflict mediation skills in. Anyone with those skills also has the skills to recognize that they should stay the gently caress away from the structure of our mod/admin system
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Slow News Day posted:Very normal opinion. Definitely not even a tiny bit unhinged. D&D is the forum where you think CSPAM is all Nazis and CSPAM is the forum where you think D&D is all Nazis. If you express the opposite opinion in the wrong one you're a sick freak.
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Jarmak posted:I agree with this, also I take the stale arguments rule as a catchall "don't post like a tedious dickhead"-style rule the mods have for people who are being annoying assholes and making the thread miserable to read. All of the Ukraine threads on this site are disgustingly ghoulish, none of them should be used as an example of anything.
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Jarmak posted:That's not what's happening, that is the point. This is a dumb "being intolerant of my intolerance makes you the intolerant one"-style gotcha. People posting different political opinions isn't you bring intolerant of intolerance. You really are exactly the thing you're describing dude.
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Jul 31, 2022 21:36
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Professor Beetus posted:Yes, very much so, in contrast with the thread consensus in DND which is that everything is fine because Joe Biden is riding to the rescue. Thank goodness CSPAM has the only thread in which people are realistically pessimistic about climate change. Lmao why did that post require you to then invent a strawman to be mad at? Whatever you call this style of posting it is a big part of what makes D&D suck. People read a post and then invent some big angry strawman to be mad at instead of honestly engaging with the actual post and posters beliefs.
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Professor Beetus posted:This is a feedback thread about DND, not CSPAM. Word, that doesn't explain anything I asked but word. Cool.
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Professor Beetus posted:Should I assume someone popping into the DND feedback thread to post about cool CSPAM threads is doing so out of good faith and generosity? The assumption of good faith does not need to be an endless font of naivete. Yes
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Professor Beetus posted:You know what, thinking on it for a minute, you two were right to call that out and I 100% should have just ignored that post, there was no need to jump on it regardless of whatever that poster's intentions may or may not have been. Mea culpa and if someone really wants me to fall on my sword, so be it. Honestly a really chill response, thank you and it's not a big deal it's just a style of posting I see here a lot and drives me nuts. I don't know what to call it and I don't really know how to explain it but I really do think that little interaction is a great example of one of the things I think really derails threads, starts fights, and gets very little attention. One person posts a belief or idea they have about a subject, the next poster reads it and picks up something between the lines that they find so offensive that this just has to be trolling and then reacts accordingly, and the discussion quickly goes off the rails as two people post earnestly at someone who they're absolutely convinced has to be trolling. And that poo poo when it's not caught and told to knock it off it just builds and builds because both posters become absolutely convinced they're not just right but the good guy in this position. I'm not even sure if there's a great way to make rules around it but if we're trying a softer touch I think mods and IKs need to push back on situations where posters read between the lines and then jump to conclusions instead of at least asking the other poster to explain their position. Part of civil debate is allowing people the ability to rephrase and explain their position since we can all really recognize that the written word is not perfect at expressing meaning.
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:personally this is why i stopped reading d&d, the ratio of informative posts to combative posts is way too out of whack. some folks post about politics because they want to find and defeat posting enemies, or because they have anxiety and are blowing off steam, or because they want to convince themselves that they are right and good, and all of this stuff is just boring to read. it encourages people to develop imaginative headcanons about how the posters they don't like are clearly disturbed fascists who must be opposed at all costs, which is a really cringey LARP way to post if you're not interested in the mighty dialectical struggle of it all I find the combativeness exhausting though I'll admit it's because I'm also guilty of this and when I see it happening turn into my own form of combative poster about it. I'm not a not angry person. I don't think everything should be taken in good faith or read hyper literally but people should at least be given a courtesy "Do you really mean to say hug and kiss Hitler as your logical conclusion when you said everyone is a bit good and evil?" And then able to explain themselves.
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