Mess que un Club - the ongoing financial fall of Barcelona

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TheRat: Aug 30, 2006

Lol, and also lmao

# ? Sep 28, 2023 11:46

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# ? May 8, 2024 19:57

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

I like that there's a charge of active bribery as a contrast to accidental bribery

# ? Sep 28, 2023 12:01

Shrapnig: Jan 21, 2005

frameset posted:

https://twitter.com/deadlinedaylive/status/1707338127054975220
https://twitter.com/COPE/status/1707309162416296213

Endless lols

# ? Sep 28, 2023 12:12

the sex ghost: Sep 6, 2009

Everyone talks about being nicer to referees and then you give the head referee a present for being good at refereeing and they put you in prison. Sickening

# ? Sep 28, 2023 12:21

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

We need Jermaine Jenas to do a video about how you should treat referees with contempt

# ? Sep 28, 2023 12:26

Total Meatlove: Jan 28, 2007; Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

Which level of the Spanish judicial system is going to order the brown envelopes destroyed before the contents can be assessed?

# ? Sep 28, 2023 12:49

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

these days, you get arrested and thrown in jail just for saying that you paid the vice president of the refereeing committee �7.3m over 17 years

# ? Sep 28, 2023 13:17

mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

frameset posted:

https://twitter.com/deadlinedaylive/status/1707338127054975220
https://twitter.com/COPE/status/1707309162416296213

strip all their titles from the last 2 decades and relegate.

# ? Sep 28, 2023 14:20

trem_two: Oct 22, 2002; it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals; Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1707387211900162163

sure

# ? Sep 28, 2023 14:38

BWV: Feb 24, 2005

So you're telling me it's okay for La Liga to pay referee salaries but when Barcelona wants to pitch in it's suddenly a "crime"?!

# ? Sep 28, 2023 15:39

Shrapnig: Jan 21, 2005

BWV posted:

So you're telling me it's okay for La Liga to pay referee salaries but when Barcelona wants to pitch in it's suddenly a "crime"?!

Barcelona probably should have been paying their own employees instead of the referees imo

# ? Sep 28, 2023 16:01

Literally Lewis Hamilton: Feb 22, 2005

frameset posted:

https://twitter.com/deadlinedaylive/status/1707338127054975220
https://twitter.com/COPE/status/1707309162416296213

Is this not a term of endearment?

# ? Sep 28, 2023 21:35

Vegetable: Oct 22, 2010

Most of those spanish jail sentences don�t result in any jail time. I doubt this leads to anything.

# ? Sep 28, 2023 21:35

Shrapnig: Jan 21, 2005

Nobody cares about jail sentences, we want the club to be disbanded and the Camp Nou razed.

# ? Sep 28, 2023 21:41

EC10: Jan 17, 2005; We like Nin-po-po
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*reading a newspaper and stopping to adjust my monocle* no, you don�t say, the team that had a striker receive a red card against them for taking a shot was bribing the referees?

# ? Sep 28, 2023 21:44

Loving Africa Chaps: Dec 3, 2007; We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Arsenal champions league winners 2006

# ? Sep 28, 2023 22:04

nawilo_420: Nov 24, 2021

some very classic la liga happening RIGHT NOW

# ? Sep 28, 2023 22:16

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Arsenal champions league winners 2006

# ? Sep 28, 2023 22:20

BrigadierSensible: Feb 16, 2012; I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

trem_two posted:

https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1707387211900162163

sure

How much of that will be used to pay off their debt?

# ? Sep 29, 2023 03:29

cagliostr0: Jun 8, 2020

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Arsenal champions league winners 2006

Remember that time the ref was watching Adriano choke Nasri and then gave Nasri a yellow for complaining about it. Good times.

# ? Oct 7, 2023 02:26

mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

Arsenal champions league winners 2006

they should replay that game with all the same players

# ? Oct 7, 2023 05:48

mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

god remember this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFWOrY_kd9c

# ? Oct 7, 2023 05:49

tristeham: Jul 31, 2022

the famous "remontada" was clearly bought too

# ? Oct 7, 2023 06:01

cagliostr0: Jun 8, 2020

Lol I forgot how obvious those hand balls were

# ? Oct 7, 2023 07:33

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

I forget which match it was but I liked the one where RVP was sent off for shooting the ball

# ? Oct 7, 2023 11:33

Brendan Rodgers: Jun 11, 2014

This was during the Dr Fuentes time too.

# ? Oct 7, 2023 13:41

Akbar: Nov 22, 2004; Hubba-
Hubba.

quote:

Barcelona ordered to pay �22.7m due to incorrect tax payments
By Guillermo Rai and Laia Cervell� Herrero

Barcelona have been ordered to pay �22.7million (�19.4m, $24.4m) after they were ruled to have incorrectly paid tax on player agent fees between 2012 and 2015.

Spain�s National Court has upheld the penalty imposed by the Resolution of the Central Economic Administrative Court (TEAC), after Barcelona appealed its decision in 2020.

Barcelona will appeal the National Court�s decision to the Spanish Supreme Court, saying that they were �surprised� by the National Court�s ruling.

�This ruling does not entail any payment obligation for the club at present, this contingency being properly provisioned in the annual accounts,� a club statement added.

The issue, as the National Court says, comes from the nature of services provided by players� agents.

In the case, the state argued that agents provide a service to their players � not the clubs � and therefore Barcelona�s payments to them should be subject to personal income tax. Barcelona argued the opposite � that agents provide a service to the club and their fees should not be attributed as payments to their players.

The court, though, says it is �abundantly clear� from the TEAC�s case that there has been tax simulation.

As defined in the court ruling, tax simulation is �the use of artifices directed towards tax avoidance, to enjoy fiscal benefits that do not correspond to the actual transition carried out� in order to get �more favourable� treatment than would otherwise have been the case.

The ruling says that the Inspectorate � the body responsible for ensuring that the tax regulations are correctly followed � �concludes that the relationship between Barcelona and the agents only serves to cover the payments made by the club to the players. This assessment is shared by the Chamber (of the National Court)�.

�The club (Barcelona) appears to be paying the agent for services that do not exist,� the National Court ruling adds, �when in reality it is paying part of the player�s remuneration in this way for the services they provide to the club, with the corresponding tax implications, which affect the IS (corporation tax), VAT and IRPF (personal income tax), distorting the taxable base for these tax concepts.�

The ruling adds that Barcelona�s missed taxes amount to �8.7m, with additional penalties of �3m, �4.3m, �5.2m and �1.4m for 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015 respectively were imposed.

I wonder when they'll run out of levers.

# ? Feb 9, 2024 18:05

Loving Africa Chaps: Dec 3, 2007; We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Akbar posted:

I wonder when they'll run out of levers.

Not yet!

They're going to make their own kit now

https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1763274499217137730?t=OUbl9pId0DqmuLtgb8eA9g&s=19

# ? Feb 29, 2024 22:10

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

You're about to witness accounting practises that will blow your mind

Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Feb 29, 2024

# ? Feb 29, 2024 22:21

Nuclear Spoon: Aug 18, 2010; I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive

with what fuckiening capital lmao

# ? Feb 29, 2024 22:33

Eau de MacGowan: May 12, 2009; BRASIL HEXA
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blaugrana bin bags with arm and neck holes cut in them

# ? Feb 29, 2024 22:42

TheRat: Aug 30, 2006

Nuclear Spoon posted:

with what fuckiening capital lmao

And what fabrication capacity, and what expertise. GG

# ? Feb 29, 2024 22:47

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

Some special deal with local government to operate a sweatshop where each shirt is bought by a mysterious third party company for �50k before being donated back to the club to sell in the shop at retail prices

# ? Feb 29, 2024 22:56

Total Meatlove: Jan 28, 2007; Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

TheRat posted:

And what fabrication capacity, and what expertise. GG

quote:

Spanish football giant FC Barcelona has reported a strong profit for its latest financial year, months after it installed Grant Thornton as its new auditor. The firm took over from EY, shortly after the Big Four auditor warned of �a hole� in the football club�s finances worth hundreds of millions of euros.

# ? Feb 29, 2024 23:07

the sex ghost: Sep 6, 2009

When the accountants tell you the numbers are bad just get new ones. This is advanced business

# ? Feb 29, 2024 23:16

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

# ? Feb 29, 2024 23:19

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tristeham posted:

the famous "remontada" was clearly bought too

ik this post is ancient but it loving blows my mind how often they talk about this considering they didn't even win the CL, it was poitnless in the end

# ? Feb 29, 2024 23:39

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Eau de MacGowan posted:

blaugrana bin bags with arm and neck holes cut in them

And they spell it Levendovski on the jersey

# ? Mar 1, 2024 00:11

Brass Hand: Feb 27, 2020

Nuclear Spoon posted:

with what fuckiening capital lmao

They won�t need much. They just need to contract someone to make the jerseys for them and then they handle the sale/distribution.

# ? Mar 1, 2024 00:38

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# ? May 8, 2024 19:57

FullLeatherJacket: Dec 30, 2004; Chiunque pu� essere Luther Blissett, semplicemente adottando il nome Luther Blissett

That just seems like a weird strategy, though. As far as I'm aware, it's not as if Adidas make a huge amount directly from paying United �90m per year to make shirts, it's all about the brand identity and values of watching your favourite sports stars get arrested in your company's gear.

Not unless the next plan is for Barca to open a series of cash-only laundrettes that take a billion euros a year, I guess

# ? Mar 1, 2024 00:58

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