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darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
'Everyone Gets an F' Edition

What is Promotion / Relegation?

code:
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Wikipedia posted:
In sports leagues, promotion and relegation is a process where teams are transferred between two divisions based on their performance for the completed season.
The best-ranked teams in the lower division are promoted to the division above, and the worst-ranked teams in the higher division are relegated to the division below.
Tier A (the Tier Jerkers) is a keeper league. Tier B (the Trail of Tiers) is a redraft league. Sucks to be in Tier B.

Buyin: $20 $25 (revised for the 2022 season)
Website: ESPN
Tiers: 2
# of teams per tier: 12
# of teams promoted each year: 3 winners of a 6 team playoff
# of teams relegated each year: 3 losers of a 4 team playoff
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout
Roster: QB 2 RB 2 WR TE FLEX 1 DL 2 LB 2 DB DFLEX 7 BN IR
Scoring: 0.5 PPR, otherwise ESPN Standard

IDP Scoring
code:
Tackle Solo: 1
Tackle Assist: .5
Sack: 3
Interception: 4
Fumble Force: 3
Fumble Recovery: 3
Defensive Touchdown: 6
Safety: 6
Pass Defended: 1
Block Kick : 6
Tackles for Loss: 2
Payout
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout

1st place: $115
2nd place: $50
3rd place: $30
Highest points total each week of regular season: $5 (x14)
Top Total Points (Weeks 1- 17): $20 - this prize can only be won by someone not finishing 1,2,3
Regular Winner Goal (TBD by Lock) - $10

Fee warchest - $5 (not to be paid out but to use to offset money transfering costs and other fees)

Keeper System
code:
A) Every keeper has a one round penalty.
B) Penalties that can't be enforced will transfer to the next highest keeper.
C) If a round is not available, a greater round will be used. If a greater round is not available, the first available lower round will be used and a penalty will be assessed for each round below the keeper's value.
D) All penalties must be enforced.
E) The following season, keeper value is based off the highest of the following: 1) The round drafted in the previous season or 2) their draft value last season prior to any transferred penalties.
F) Once a player hits free agency in any form, that player is no longer eligible to be kept the following season.
Example:

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2012 Draft:
1.) Drew Brees
2.) DeMarco Murray
4.) Percy Harvin
16.) Alfred Morris

2013:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
 	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (2nd rounder) 
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
3.) Harvin (4th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
13.) Morris (16th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Brees
	-1 for keeping DeMarco

2014:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (3rd rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
8.) Morris (13th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
 	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)

2015: 
Can’t legally apply penalties to keep only Brees, DeMarco, Harvin, and Morris. 
One way to fix this is to let go one or more of the players. 
Another possibility is to keep 2014 20th round pick Johnny Manziel to absorb additional penalties.

2015:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (2nd rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
4.) Morris (8th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
17.) Manziel (20th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Manziel
	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	-1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd rounder (Harvin)
Supplemental Draft
Every year at least three teams in Tier A will be disbanded. The players comprising their rosters will be put into one large player pool. Teams from Tier B will be promoted to take their place, and they will be able to select keepers from the player pool in a supplemental draft.

Any players selected in the supplemental draft will retain the same value they would have if they were kept by their previous owner. For example, if a relegated team drafted Andrew Luck in the 14th round, drafting Andrew Luck in the supplemental draft would let the new owner keep him in the 13th round (barring any other penalties).

Owners will have an unlimited number of picks in the supplemental draft, but their keepers must abide by the same keepers rules as the rest of the league. Once every owner opts out of the draft, and the commissioner determines that their keepers adhere to the league's keeper rules, the supplemental draft is over.

The supplemental draft will be in order of their finish in Tier B. The draft will snake.

Draft Order
The first year the draft order will be randomized. After that, the two tiers will follow the following draft order:

Tier A
1: 1st place Tier B
2: 2nd place Tier B
3: 3rd place Tier B
4: 9th place Tier A
5: 8th place Tier A
etc, etc

Tier B
Random

The draft will snake. Every attempt will be made to accommodate a live draft.

Trades
Trades will now process instantly. I'll obviously reserve the right to veto extreme attempts at collusion / cheating. We've got a good group of people here, so I doubt it'll ever come to that.

Trade deadline is the last week of the season.

Trade Draft Picks At Your Own Risk
Future draft picks can be traded in Tier A. However, keep in mind that the draft picks of a relegated team are valueless.

Furthermore, if you trade your own future draft pick to a team, your rights to that draft pick are forfeited (even if that team is then later relegated).

Ties
During the regular season, matchups can result in a tie. It's not very likely because we're using fractional points, but I've seen it happen before.

Overall record determines playoff seeding. Ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

During the playoffs, ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

Relegation Cannot Be Avoided
If someone in Tier A decides not to continue on next season for whatever reason, their roster will join the player pool for the supplemental draft and an additional team from Tier B will be promoted to take their place.

Updated/Clarified rules for 2022

Increased fees/prizes
Keeper must be locked in before the supplemental draft
Reminder to send league dues via Friends and Family

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darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
History:

2021 GoonTier Champion: zeroordie
2020 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2019 GoonTier Champion: jabro
2018 GoonTier Champion: zeroordie
2017 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2016 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2015 GoonTier Champion: zeroordie
2014 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42
2013 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42

2020 thread: [url]https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3968585

Moving Up:
welp welps (lock)
The Bengals Offensive Line (Master Stur)
Dan Snyder Must Swing (Hiroprotagonist)


Moving Down:
Cobra Kyler (Baser Instinct)
Kamara Talk (dewey7788)
Guys Follies (jabro)

Supplemental Draft:

code:
1+1	Javonte Williams
1+1	Ezekiel Elliott
1+1	Mike Evans
1	Miles Sanders
1	Allen Robinson II
1	Christian McCaffrey
1	Amari Cooper
2	George Kittle
3	Ja'Marr Chase
3	David Montgomery
4	Michael Pittman Jr.
4	Michael Carter
5	Jerry Jeudy
5	DJ Chark Jr.
5	Lamar Jackson
6	Kyler Murray
7	Aaron Donald
7	Joey Bosa
7	Myles Garrett
8	Fred Warner
8	Zack Moss
8	Demario Davis
9	Micah Parsons
9	Myles Jack
11	James Conner
11	Kenny Golladay
12	Dallas Goedert
12	Patrick Mahomes
13	T.J. Hockenson
13	Alvin Kamara
14	Laviska Shenault Jr.
16	Mecole Hardman
16	Kadarius Toney
16	Jessie Bates III
17	Michael GallupQ
17	Isaiah Simmons
17	Travis Etienne Jr.
18	Pat Surtain II

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Aug 9, 2022

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Tier A 2022 Keeper Costs:

code:
The McRib™ Is Back

1+1	Derrick Henry Ten, RB
2	Kyle Pitts Atl, TE
3	Nick Chubb Cle, RB
4	Devin White TB, LB
5	Deebo Samuel SF, WR
6	Jeremy Chinn Car, S
7	Elijah Moore NYJ, WR
8	Matthew Stafford LAR, QB
9	Devin Singletary Buf, RB
10	Tony Pollard Dal, RB
11	Mike Williams LAC, WR
13	Courtland Sutton Den, WR
15	Kenneth Gainwell Phi, RB
18	DeForest Buckner Ind, DT
	
Don't Get Regulated

1+1	Joe Mixon Cin, RB
1	Josh Jacobs LV, RB
2	Tyler Boyd Cin, WR
3	Ronald Jones II TB, RB
4	Budda Baker Ari, S
5	Michael Thomas NO, WR
6	Lavonte David TB, LB
9	Leonard Fournette TB, RB
11	DJ Moore Car, WR
14	Josh Allen Buf, QB
16	Cam Akers LAR, RB
	
Everybody Herberts Dong

3	Melvin Gordon III Den, RB
4	Russell Wilson Sea, QB
5	T.J. Watt Pit, DE
7	Derwin James Jr. LAC, S
12	DK Metcalf Sea, WR
14	Sterling Shepard NYG, WR
16	Marquise Brown Bal, WR
19	Cole Holcomb Wsh, LB
10	Chuba Hubbard
17	Damien Harris
14	Chris Carson
11	Rondale Moore

I Like Beer

1+1	Calvin Ridley
1+1	Clyde Edwards-Helaire KC, RB
2	Justin Herbert LAC, QB
3	DeVonta Smith Phi, WR
4	Darius Leonard Ind, LB
8	Diontae Johnson Pit, WR
11	Travis Kelce KC, TE
13	Tee Higgins Cin, WR
15	Brandon Aiyuk SF, WR
15	James Robinson
17	C.J. Mosley NYJ, LB
	
Davante's Inferno

1+1	Davante Adams GB, WR
1	Stefon Diggs Buf, WR
2	Darrell Henderson Jr. LAR, RB
4	Noah Fant Den, TE
5	Roquan Smith Chi, LB
6	Chase Edmonds Ari, RB
8	Mike Gesicki Mia, TE
9	Brian Burns Car, DE
11	Justin Jefferson Min, WR
12	Aaron Jones GB, RB
13	Joe Burrow Cin, QB
16	Eric Kendricks Min, LB
18	Alexander Mattison Min, RB
19	Rashod Bateman Bal, WR
	
The New Guy

1+1	Saquon Barkley NYG, RB
2	Adam Thielen Min, WR
6	Bobby Wagner Sea, LB
8	Mark Andrews Bal, TE
14	Haason Reddick Car, DE
15	Tom Brady TB, QB
16	J.K. Dobbins Bal, RB
	
Hurts Immunity

1+1	Dalvin Cook Min, RB
1	Tyreek Hill KC, WR
2	Mike Davis Atl, RB
3	D'Andre Swift Det, RB
4	Jaylen Waddle Mia, WR
6	Brandin Cooks Hou, WR
9	Jalen Hurts Phi, QB
13	Marvin Jones Jr. Jax, WR
17	J.D. McKissic Wsh, RB
	
Bombardment Society

1+1	A.J. Brown Ten, WR
1	Keenan Allen
1	Jonathan Taylor Ind, RB
2	Antonio Gibson Wsh, RB
3	CeeDee Lamb Dal, WR
4	Dak Prescott Dal, QB
5	Odell Beckham Jr. LAR, WR
8	Deion Jones Atl, LB
10	Foyesade Oluokun Atl, LB
12	Austin Ekeler LAC, RB
15	Cooper Kupp LAR, WR
16	Darren Waller LV, TE
	
GloboChem PitPats

1+1	Najee Harris Pit, RB
1	Terry McLaurin Wsh, WR
2	DeAndre Hopkins Ari, WR
3	Chase Claypool Pit, WR
4	Justin Fields Chi, QB
5	Aaron Rodgers GB, QB
6	Tyler Lockett Sea, WR
7	Tremaine Edmunds Buf, LB
8	AJ Dillon GB, RB
9	Tyrann Mathieu KC, S
10	Kareem Hunt Cle, RB
14	Kevin Byard Ten, S
17	Bradley Chubb Den, DE
Draft Order:

Tier A:
1. Lock (confirmed)
2. Master Stur (confirmed)
3. Hiroprotagonist (confirmed)
new Chen kenichi (confirmed)
new Anubis (confirmed)
6. One1mike9 (confirmed)
7. SouthShoreSamurai (confirmed/paid)
8. Hot Diggity! (confirmed/paid)
9. Veritek83 (confirmed/paid)
10. Mikey Purp (confirmed)
11. DkJ (confirmed/paid)
12. darkspider42 (confirmed/paid)


out:
7. thecriterionman
12. zeroordie


Tier B (no particular Order):
1. Brownhat (confirmed)
2. von Metternich (confirmed/paid)
3. 3 dong horse (confirmed)
4. barnold (confirmed)
5. Gobias Ind (confirmed/paid)
6. Whoreson Welles (confirmed)
7. Boywunda (confirmed)
8. Baser instinct (confirmed)
9. dewey7788 (confirmed)
10. jabro (confirmed)
11. new
12. new

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Aug 26, 2022

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


Checking in for the loser division tier b.

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Everyone heading into this thread please check in so I know that you're in this year, and for anyone in Tier A please get your keepers in ASAP. I'll have the list ready tomorrow (8/9) for cross reference/checking but please be thinking about it since we need those locked in before we can do the supplemental draft.



payment options:

Paypal: orders@randompunks.com

if you need an alternate payment please let me know.


Sleeper Link for Tier A draft
https://sleeper.app/i/m22xQQBBg11E

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Aug 9, 2022

von Metternich
May 7, 2007
Why the hell not?

jabro posted:

Checking in for the loser division tier b.

Also checking in for the loser club, yet again

dkj
Feb 18, 2009

Checking in

Boywunda
Jun 25, 2003

Checking in....
This is now the only FFL I have left. Friends leagues all dissipated.
I'm in this 4 life.....

Whoreson Welles
Mar 4, 2015

ON TO THE NEXT PAGE!
Checking in and ready to trip at the finish line as usual.

One1mike9
Aug 12, 2021
Checking in and ready to go

Mikey Purp
Sep 30, 2008

I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.
Checking in for another year

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
Checking in

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Checking in for tier B

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot
chick'n in for Tier B

Veritek83
Jul 7, 2008

The Irish can't drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I've known gets mean when he drinks.
yes, I will play fantasy football again

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
Checking in.

Whoreson Welles
Mar 4, 2015

ON TO THE NEXT PAGE!
Tier B:

While this thread is still hot off the presses, we suggested Tuesday September 6th for an evening draft. Does that work for everyone?

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


Whoreson Welles posted:

Tier B:

While this thread is still hot off the presses, we suggested Tuesday September 6th for an evening draft. Does that work for everyone?

Tuesday does work but it’s an in-office day for me so won’t be available until 530PM PST. If that late of a time is cool for the east coasters then I’m okay with that being the draft day.

Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc
Checking in for Tier B.

jabro posted:

Tuesday does work but it’s an in-office day for me so won’t be available until 530PM PST. If that late of a time is cool for the east coasters then I’m okay with that being the draft day.

As an east coaster, this would be perfect for me because the kids will be in bed by then.

e: Payment sent

Gobias Ind. fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Aug 9, 2022

Whoreson Welles
Mar 4, 2015

ON TO THE NEXT PAGE!

jabro posted:

Tuesday does work but it’s an in-office day for me so won’t be available until 530PM PST. If that late of a time is cool for the east coasters then I’m okay with that being the draft day.

Yeah most of the time I think it’s better for everyone if we do a 9pm-ish EST start.

Anubis
Oct 9, 2003

It's hard to keep sand out of ears this big.
Fun Shoe
Checking in for tier B, for hopefully the last year.

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Whoreson Welles posted:

Tier B:

While this thread is still hot off the presses, we suggested Tuesday September 6th for an evening draft. Does that work for everyone?

I have another draft (my main one) at 6:30pm PST that day but I say go ahead. I will either double draft or set up my autodraft.

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot
any weekday works for me for Tier B as long as it's 8pm EST or later (i work til 7)

SouthShoreSamurai
Apr 28, 2009

It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Fun Shoe
Checking in for Tier A. Will send $ in a bit.

Maybe this year I can avoid the relegation bowl!

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Tier A Keepers are up please get your keepers posted by 8/20.

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
code:
Don't Get Regulated

1+1	Joe Mixon Cin, RB
1	Josh Jacobs LV, RB
2	Tyler Boyd Cin, WR
3	Ronald Jones II TB, RB
4	Budda Baker Ari, S
5	Michael Thomas NO, WR
6	Lavonte David TB, LB
9	Leonard Fournette TB, RB
11	DJ Moore Car, WR
14	Josh Allen Buf, QB
16	Cam Akers LAR, RB
Keeping

1 Joe Mixon
4 Michael Thomas (5+1 from Mixon)
9 Leonard Fournette
11 DJ Moore
14 Josh Allen
16 Cam Akers

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
Dues sent.

Would consider a draft and trade for Davante Adams. PM if interested!

Chen Kenichi
Jul 20, 2001
I am the annoying one without PP, think I did Google Pay last year? Either that or Zelle are my options.

dkj
Feb 18, 2009

darkspider42 posted:

The McRib™ Is Back

1+1 Derrick Henry Ten, RB
2 Kyle Pitts Atl, TE
3 Nick Chubb Cle, RB
4 Devin White TB, LB
5 Deebo Samuel SF, WR
6 Jeremy Chinn Car, S
7 Elijah Moore NYJ, WR
8 Matthew Stafford LAR, QB
9 Devin Singletary Buf, RB
10 Tony Pollard Dal, RB
11 Mike Williams LAC, WR
13 Courtland Sutton Den, WR
15 Kenneth Gainwell Phi, RB
18 DeForest Buckner Ind, DT


Keeping:

1+1 Derrick Henry Ten, RB
2 Kyle Pitts Atl, TE
3 Nick Chubb Cle, RB
4 Devin White TB, LB
5 Deebo Samuel SF, WR
6 Jeremy Chinn Car, S
7 Elijah Moore NYJ, WR
8 Matthew Stafford LAR, QB
9 Devin Singletary Buf, RB
10 Tony Pollard Dal, RB
11 Mike Williams LAC, WR
12 Courtland Sutton Den, WR (13+1)
15 Kenneth Gainwell Phi, RB
18 DeForest Buckner Ind, DT

Brownhat
Jan 25, 2012

One cannot be a good person and enforce unjust laws.


Checking in for Tier B, still longing to return to Tier A...

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

dkj posted:

Keeping:

1+1 Derrick Henry Ten, RB
2 Kyle Pitts Atl, TE
3 Nick Chubb Cle, RB
4 Devin White TB, LB
5 Deebo Samuel SF, WR
6 Jeremy Chinn Car, S
7 Elijah Moore NYJ, WR
8 Matthew Stafford LAR, QB
9 Devin Singletary Buf, RB
10 Tony Pollard Dal, RB
11 Mike Williams LAC, WR
12 Courtland Sutton Den, WR (13+1)
15 Kenneth Gainwell Phi, RB
18 DeForest Buckner Ind, DT

Ah, the ole show up 2 hours after the draft starts strategy

von Metternich
May 7, 2007
Why the hell not?
Payment sent! 9EST on that Tuesday is fine with me.

dkj
Feb 18, 2009

darkspider42 posted:

Ah, the ole show up 2 hours after the draft starts strategy

Running it back without a championship

Payment sent

dkj fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Aug 10, 2022

Baser Instinct
Oct 18, 2004
No title necessary
Checking in for Tier B!

SouthShoreSamurai
Apr 28, 2009

It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Fun Shoe

darkspider42 posted:

Tier A 2022 Keeper Costs:

code:
I Like Beer

2	Justin Herbert LAC, QB
8	Diontae Johnson Pit, WR
11	Travis Kelce KC, TE
13	Tee Higgins Cin, WR
15	Brandon Aiyuk SF, WR
15	James Robinson
17	C.J. Mosley NYJ, LB

Dues paid.

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

SouthShoreSamurai posted:

I Like Beer

2 Justin Herbert LAC, QB
8 Diontae Johnson Pit, WR
11 Travis Kelce KC, TE
13 Tee Higgins Cin, WR
15 Brandon Aiyuk SF, WR
15 James Robinson
17 C.J. Mosley NYJ, LB

If you keep these players the penalties for Robinson and Mosley can't be enforce (Robinson would be kept as a 16 and the -1 can't be applied to Mosley). Based on my reading of the keepers:

code:
C) If a round is not available, a greater round will be used. If a greater round is not available, the first available lower round will be used and a penalty will be assessed for each round below the keeper's value.
You can choose either Aiyuk or Robinson to become a 14 OR not keep one of them

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Bump for check in and keepers!

SouthShoreSamurai
Apr 28, 2009

It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Fun Shoe

darkspider42 posted:

If you keep these players the penalties for Robinson and Mosley can't be enforce (Robinson would be kept as a 16 and the -1 can't be applied to Mosley). Based on my reading of the keepers:

code:
C) If a round is not available, a greater round will be used. If a greater round is not available, the first available lower round will be used and a penalty will be assessed for each round below the keeper's value.
You can choose either Aiyuk or Robinson to become a 14 OR not keep one of them

Oh I didn't even notice that.

I'll keep Robinson at 14. He sucks but maybe Etienne gets hurt again.

Veritek83
Jul 7, 2008

The Irish can't drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I've known gets mean when he drinks.

quote:

Keeping
1 Najee Harris Pit, RB
6 Tremaine Edmunds Buf, LB (7+1)
8 AJ Dillon GB, RB
10 Kareem Hunt Cle, RB
14 Kevin Byard Ten, S
17 Bradley Chubb Den, DE

I think I've done this right. Will send payment later today

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dewey7788
Oct 10, 2004

Don't Toews me bro!
Checking in for the lowly Tier B...

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