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Daemon was framed! He has an alibi! He wasn’t even in the Vale when his wife died! He was off fighting for king and country in the Stepstones!
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Viserys is a good man with a lot of personal courage, who loves his family. He's also a terrible ruler who puts surface level familial harmony over the best interests of the realm. He's the type of character that game of thrones did well when it was a good show, and stopped doing when it became a terrible show. In his defense, she's clearly a better ruler than her inept brothers and his belief in prophecy tells him that she should rule so he has some divine sanction to his decision. He's just really naive about his vassals and their loyalty to him because he's not enough like his warlord predecessors to recognize that their superficial loyalty is a mask for their greed and ambition.
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westeros is rightfully the domain of the old gods and their children and will be again.
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I’ve never read the books, but I did buy the map book and the in-universe history volume. One thing I like about both of them is the entirely off-screen (presumably the same is true for the books) suggestion that there are lovecraft-style ancient gods somewhere waiting, and perhaps the real story of that world will be them upending the entire world in 10,000 years or something. It could just be a nod to famous sci-fi ideas (dagon fish people, a dead god waiting under the water, an ominous abandoned city that sickens people, a city named Leng, Ib, Kadath, etc), but it’s kind of fun to think about a much more significant, sillier story coming up when these people are at like a 1920s tech/society level. This is also true for the suggestions that the world of Game of Thrones grew up in the ruins of a high-technology society that destroyed itself many thousands of years before and the spooky city in the far east is radioactive, dragons are descended from genetically engineered war beasts, the lost technology that made all the impossible ancient buildings of Westeros is just very advanced engineering and materials science, the messed-up seasons are from some kind of super war weapon. It’s so stupid that it could never be broached in the story, but very amusing if the things people take as hints of it are deliberate.
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Yeah, GRRM world is off kilter enough to make it fun but some of it does fall apart like the sizes of the continents and the actual height of the wall (taller than most skyscrapers lol)
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Storms End is a nuclear cooling tower, and I will go to my grave holding onto that wonderful theory.
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The radioactive hellscape part is right around North Korea if you assume it’s supposed to be Earth. I always liked that as a detail.
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I AM GRANDO posted:I’ve never read the books, but I did buy the map book and the in-universe history volume. One thing I like about both of them is the entirely off-screen (presumably the same is true for the books) suggestion that there are lovecraft-style ancient gods somewhere waiting, and perhaps the real story of that world will be them upending the entire world in 10,000 years or something. the one thing i kinda liked about GRRMs stuff is that its a world where magic and poo poo does exist and probably eldrich horrors and gods/higher powers do exist. its just random and rare. like yeah some people talk and have powers from the fire god, their is an ancient biological weapon in the frozen north waiting for the clock to tick down and lots of supposed poo poo in the edges of the world. but most of it is about Ser Hiram Fatfuck of the House Fatfuck and their weird dispute with House Baby Stomper/
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There’s probably a decent fraction of people who believe that Robb Stark really did turn into a wolf and attack the Freys.
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Also some of the deities and religions have actual power. The Red God and his followers actually have some power. The Weirwoods do poo poo. The Seven and the Goat God of Qohor, not so much.
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One theory that I think isn't too wild and is consistent with the source is the idea that Targaryens and the other dragon-riders in old Valyria were the product of some kind of magical genetic engineering to give humans Dragon attributes, hence why they have a supernatural bond with them (or maybe dragons themselves are the end result of that experimentation). Some of the weird poo poo like Dany's stillborn son with scales and claws ties into this, and especially what we hear about people who go to Old Valyria and make it back.
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a lot of that poo poo is added in to just give some mystery to the world. Liek what is this far flung place? Well we don't know but here are some vague legends from a dude's notes who said he traveled there. Some of it might have a kernel of truth somewhere in history but was integrated or distorted with local legend. Some of it might be real. the point is not to fill it in, but add flavor
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Tender Bender posted:One theory that I think isn't too wild and is consistent with the source is the idea that Targaryens and the other dragon-riders in old Valyria were the product of some kind of magical genetic engineering to give humans Dragon attributes, hence why they have a supernatural bond with them (or maybe dragons themselves are the end result of that experimentation). Some of the weird poo poo like Dany's stillborn son with scales and claws ties into this, and especially what we hear about people who go to Old Valyria and make it back. There was a youtube channel dedicated to this theory, but I can't remember the name, something Prester John?
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deoju posted:Also some of the deities and religions have actual power. The Red God and his followers actually have some power. The Weirwoods do poo poo. Something going on with the Drowned God too? IIRC, the Ironborn's CPR ritual always works when it should realistically kill a bunch of them. Edit: Yeah, the wiki says the Kiss of Life only occasionally doesn't work and Aeron Greyjoy has never lost someone. Seems supernatural PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Feb 20, 2024 |
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kanonvandekempen posted:There was a youtube channel dedicated to this theory, but I can't remember the name, something Prester John? Preston Jacobs. He has a million fan theories, of various seriousness. PostNouveau posted:Something going on with the Drowned God too? IIRC, the Ironborn's CPR ritual always works when it should realistically kill a bunch of them. It's CPR.
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I always liked the whole "There has only ever been one Lord Bolton" theory
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Xiahou Dun posted:Preston Jacobs. He has a million fan theories, of various seriousness. He's been doing a fun fan fiction project where he puts out an outline of a chapter for Winds of Winter and takes submissions and edits them into a chapter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIo4kB34pI8 He just released the Quentyn I chapter, because one of his favorite theories is that Quentyn survived A Dance With Dragons Xiahou Dun posted:It's CPR. I thought CPR was extremely ineffective, but a little Googling says it might be very effective in drowning cases and very ineffective in heart attacks.
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If we’re linking to YouTube resources I really like the videos by Alt Shift X for both GoT and HotD. He’s good about citing his sources and giving speculative theories a fair shake.
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Tender Bender posted:One theory that I think isn't too wild and is consistent with the source is the idea that Targaryens and the other dragon-riders in old Valyria were the product of some kind of magical genetic engineering to give humans Dragon attributes, hence why they have a supernatural bond with them (or maybe dragons themselves are the end result of that experimentation). Some of the weird poo poo like Dany's stillborn son with scales and claws ties into this, and especially what we hear about people who go to Old Valyria and make it back. There are several Targ children that are said to be weird human/dragon abominations and not a single one of them is real, including Dany's. Dany gets told that her stillborn baby was a weird scaled abomination by a woman that is trying to emotionally hurt her, and the actual baby is never seen up close by anyone trustworthy. It likely looked hosed up because of genetic issues having to do with Targ inbreeding, but the whole scaled dragon with a tail thing is a fabrication made up by in-world historians trying to sell the idea that virtuous kings have awesome chad babies, while wicked kings have weird demon babies. EDIT: Always remember that the in-world lore is usually written by a Maester, who always spin or embellish details to lend credence to their very specific worldview of what's right and what's wrong. EDIT2: The Targs started having a problems with children and fertility a generation or two after they started outbreeding with people outside their family. There is evidence that they might have been fine inbreeding as long as they kept their line completely pure, but as soon as they started adding genes from outside the family the inbreeding caught up with them. Anonymous Zebra fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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Wile E Coyote genetics
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Are you loving kidding me? The guy seriously wrote that incest was good and only went bad because they weren't doing so much loving incest?!
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Turns out the solution to bad incest was, really, just more incest
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PostNouveau posted:
CPR is used to keep the oxygen circulating. It can't start the heart or revidert people. It's something you do to keep the brain from dying until medical personell arrives.
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Yeah, so season three of this show in 2026 then, assuming renewal.
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The Dunk and Egg stories are pretty much tailor made for TV. If they get competent show runners and a good cast, it could be a huge hit. Of course, they will likely run into the same problem as game of thrones, in that the conclusion to that story has not been written by grrm and likely won't be finished by the time the show catches up. (Because he will never release another asoiaf book)
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:The Dunk and Egg stories are pretty much tailor made for TV. If they get competent show runners and a good cast, it could be a huge hit. I think he'll for sure release another couple dumb cash in books at some point. Not plot stuff, but random world bullshit. He just won't have written any of them. At most he'll give some notes he already wrote to someone else while he takes most of the profit.
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Non-zero chance the old troll has already finished them and they won’t be released until after his death. I would respect that.
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PostNouveau posted:Something going on with the Drowned God too? IIRC, the Ironborn's CPR ritual always works when it should realistically kill a bunch of them. The Greyjoys make more sense when you realize every ruler suffers from anoxic brain injury
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Marsupial Ape posted:Non-zero chance the old troll has already finished them and they won’t be released until after his death. I would respect that. In the sense that I believe he could have found a way to invent a negative probability of how unlikely the books are to come out, yes, I suppose it's non-zero.
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Xiahou Dun posted:In the sense that I believe he could have found a way to invent a negative probability of how unlikely the books are to come out, yes, I suppose it's non-zero. Your spite is what is keeping the old man alive. The more you want the books, the longer GRRM lives.
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Marsupial Ape posted:Non-zero chance the old troll has already finished them and they won’t be released until after his death. I would respect that. It's more likely that he'll have finished 90% of everything before dying and will stipulate in his will that it all be destroyed. stev fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Feb 24, 2024 |
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stev posted:It's more likely that he'll have finished 90% of everything before dying and will stipulate in his will that it all be destroyed. I would respect that more. That’s baller.
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Title it “A Hedge Knight of the Seven Kingdoms”. PM me for further media consulting.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:The Dunk and Egg stories are pretty much tailor made for TV. If they get competent show runners and a good cast, it could be a huge hit. Steven Conrad (Patriot) was supposed to be the showrunner, then he was downgraded to writer, and now his name isn't appearing on any press releases. Oh well.
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Fuuuuuck, Conrad would have been a great choice
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:The Dunk and Egg stories are pretty much tailor made for TV. The Blackfyres are central to the story, and they aren't mentioned at all in the original show, at least not to my recollection. The Dance of the Dragons was a few times. It'll probably be fine, but I've gotta wonder if that will resonate with the old audience the same way HotD does. deoju fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Feb 25, 2024 |
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Trailers for the newest season are out. They split them into House Green/House Black versions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnxB9xZByyQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csSaSrJJPRs
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