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Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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Just watched the first three episodes. I was not prepared for Game of Thrones: Emotional Intelligence Edition

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Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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I guess three seasons of For All Mankind has made me used to time jumps. I think they are executed well.

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Dec 15, 2020
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PostNouveau posted:

I assume that kid died. (He seemed very young too. I think he was supposed to be like a 16-year-old heckling a 13-year-old)

It just makes it much funnier if he died because it makes the failure of all the adults larger.

I think the show is, uh, showing us that 200 years before the events of GoT, it was still OK to kill another motherfucker in the name of honor whenever, wherever, as long as both parties produce blades at the ready. That duel culture can be hard to wring out of a male dominated culture and was so prevalent in our own recent history that some US states still make you sign a pledge that you will not participate in a duel if you are elected to a public office.

We’re being shown a Westeros that, while still in a ‘silver age’ and more beautiful than we one we are used to, it is still two centuries behind in cultural customs. If I remember correctly, tourney jousts and melees didn’t necessarily have to be blood sport. In the HotD tourney, knights (mostly noble sons, no less) were straight up executing each other on the ground. Not even a chance for a chivalrous tap out or offering their armor as ransom.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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I was getting “soft-core Showtime porn in the 90’s” vibe. Which is not bad, honestly. I have the same kind of nostalgia I do for that as I do Saturday morning cartoons.

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Dec 15, 2020
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wilderthanmild posted:

Oh man, I wonder if bad poo poo might have come to that little lord that stabbed the mouthy Baratheon.

Honor duel society. That kid just leveled up.

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Dec 15, 2020
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BigglesSWE posted:

Haha ngl Ser Criston’s face when she walked past him when she should’ve been in her room was quite funny.

His common-born brain screaming “nobles really are magic!”

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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You can’t insert pirates into a Dungeons and Dragons game and have it not be dumb.

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Dec 15, 2020
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Platystemon posted:

The Dragonpit was a folly and should never have been built.

It’s certainly no Cloaca Maxima.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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Kinda rushed through the previous 2 unread pages…

Thoughts on Daemon spooking the horse so easily: he’s a champion level member of the equestrian warrior class. A goddam knight. He knows everything about horses and how to gently caress with an enemy’s horse. The moment he tried grab the horse’s bit and bridle I knew he would try to flip it on her.

Thoughts on Cole being able to walk away from killing another knight during a wedding celebration: as was demonstrated earlier with the teen noble boy ganking the older bully noble boy, Westeros is still at a stage where it’s an expectation that young men will kill each other during otherwise benign social activities. Everybody is going assume this was a “talk poo poo, get hit” interaction and move on with their lives. Also, as noted, Kingsguard are like 007s and pretty free license to murder as they deem necessary.

Also, keep in mind, everybody in this wedding is piss-rear end wine drunk and making dumb decisions and talking poo poo. Everybody but Cole, who is stone sober and thus all more terrifying for losing his poo poo like that.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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Wait! Wait! I can do one, too!

“You eat turds for breakfast?”

Same movie, right?

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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Yes, we get, the dress is gold.

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Dec 15, 2020
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Open Source Idiom posted:

Yeah, I've a friend who's been reading Rhaenyra as potentially trans / genderqueer, partly influenced by Emma D'arcy's casting.

Either way, I've been reading this show through a feminist/queer lens for the most part. If they just crowned Rhaenyra king and Allicent married her as queen, then quite a lot of the brewing conflict could probably be sorted.

I’ve been doing some nerd reading on matrilineal societies in the pre-classical Mediterranean world (pre Bronze Age collapse, basically), and inheritance through the mother just makes more sense, especially in terms of agriculture holdings. Those societies also were matrilocal, meaning the husband would leave his mother’s home and go live with the family of his wife. If marriages were dissolved, a woman was never without a home for herself and her children. Avuncular inheritance is also prevalent in these societies, the mother’s brothers leaving their inheritance to their nephews. Interesting poo poo.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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sure okay posted:

A minor part. Here's his real career making moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBp6exx2kZM

Why did you do this. I just got over the fact that he wears those goddam busted-rear end NB sneakers for the rest of the movie. He is literally doing the “look at my amazing new body, now I can dress awesome” montage scene and still wears those loving sneakers for the rest of the movie. He loving dies wearing them.. It’s an absolute bizarre character choice.

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Dec 15, 2020
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Zenithe posted:

Targs are also immune to a lot of things allegedly so I reckon he's probably getting intentionally sabotaged in some way. Also that line about treating his arm and the guy was like well it's fine don't worry about it let's just keep doing the same thing which resulted in his arm rotting off seemsreally suspicious

There is a constant theme in GoT that Grand Maesters don’t know poo poo and refuse to break from received knowledge.

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Dec 15, 2020
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deoju posted:

They younger maester suggested a different treatment last episode, but the Grand Maester shot him down.

The leeches symbolize authority.

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Dec 15, 2020
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roomtone posted:

"Well, it's unreasonable to say a woman can't sit on the throne. Hypothetically, one could just as well as a man"
"Indeed my lord"
"And likewise, homosexuality shouldn't be shunned - it should be welcomed into the family of lifestyles"'
"Indeed my lord"
"And while I'm at it, people in general should live as they please, wealth should be redistributed amongst the people, drat all my riches, they-"
"Well let me stop you right there Lord, in fact go back a few steps"

this is a psycho realm.

You’re being a willful turd, but you do bring up an interesting point. Most conventional Western fantasy stories deal with the reviving a lost kingdom or bloodline…or returning the order of things to a previous gold age. With that context, it is obvious the kind of writer and reader that would be attracted to a conservative theme, like that. Modern fantasy as we know it is not a progressive creature.

Should new generation of fantasy stories be not just about toppling upstart empires to reinstall a Golden Age kingdom, but tearing down ancient and harmful societies and institutions to allow the flourishing of a new, self determining age? That’s a rhetorical question by the way, goons.

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Dec 15, 2020
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roomtone posted:

So you can sit and pick at all the little ways we are wrong to do so, and that's fine, but it adds very little.

Respectfully, I think this is a big clue why some people find these kind’s discussion frustrating and even banal. You’d think a normal person would consume content and then decide if that content was for them or not. If it is not for them, they stop watching it and move on like a healthy person. If they do like it, then they watch it until it ends or starts being bad. Experiencing a show that is good is your primary concern.

Not here. gently caress that. Picking and psychoanalysis and societal theory, and general pettiness. That’s the primary concern. The act of turning every thing we kinda enjoy into a community college English II workshop. If we could have the inane, disassembling conversations without actually having to spend watching TV for hours better invested in sleep, we would.

I’m sorry that’s not your thing and I hope your frustration doesn’t come from a sense alienation.

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Dec 15, 2020
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Jaxyon posted:

The great thing here is you can also totally ignore the posts you don't like and mute the posters you don't like.

Imagine being that smugly superior and then admitting you play Something Awful with full aim assist and Storyteller Mode on.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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They spent the money saved on making her chest perfectly flat and non-titillating whenever wearing a wet shear gown.

Jokes on you, Tolkien estate, fey androgyny is totally this old creep’s jam.

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Metis of the Hallway posted:

Who cares. I don't want to talk about the lotr show in this thread, its own thread is bad enough.

Do you think Tyrion would like life in Hobbiton or would he find it all too provincial?

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Dec 15, 2020
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:

Ah yes, this is a great person to cite for an honest opinion. I sure hope writers everywhere take heed and do what this guy wants.







A bastion of fair criticism and totally not a chuddy grifter, for sure.

That’s disappointing. I had watched a couple of his bow videos and found him fun. Still waters run chuddy, I guess.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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Is the second season of Britannia any good?

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FLIPADELPHIA posted:

There's a decent chance he finishes his next book. But the chances go way down that he finishes the series finale, which is supposed to be the next book after.

"Lol he's never releasing another book" is justified low bar setting from fans who've had to wait literal decades for progress on some of the character/plot lines.

There hasn't been a new Arya chapter since 2005, for example.

This is based only on my Schlocky Narrative brain, but I honestly believe that George has actually been finished with the final books for a while. He’s just not gonna release them until after his death as a old fat man prank on everybody who gave him poo poo while he was behind schedule.

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Barreft posted:

hey i remember reading those theories a decade ago

I hadn’t. So gently caress me for sharing a funny thought I had, I guess.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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I don’t wish anything. I just think it’s a funny bit.

Honestly, if the books ever come out, I probably couldn’t get the mental inertia up to read them. I have other books.

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Barreft posted:

I'm not being as serious as it seems you think I am. sorry.



Aw, I can’t stay mad at that face.

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Dec 15, 2020
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Barreft posted:

Wildcards is mostly a bunch of sexual deviant old men writers. We've all just assumed he jerks off while "editting" it.

*clears throat* so, uh…so, those are on Kindle, right?

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Barreft posted:

I'd quote you the Mercy chapter but I got a 3 day probe for it last time lol

Yeah, I just read that wiki excerpt.

Yikes.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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Finally caught up. Holy poo poo, this episode. GoT: Emotional Intelligence Edition is harrowing.

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Xiahou Dun posted:

Part of the core of Stannis as a character is he is constantly disgusted with existence and his presence in it.

Dillane harnessed that perfectly by hating every second of being on the show and possibly the concept of acting itself. Just like Stannis.




Also completely unconnected but someone posted a video of Paddy Considine’s IRL band and are none of us gonna comment on the fact that he plays the goddamn melodica?

I love weird instruments, they’re great, but holy poo poo the melodica, dude? I want to know the series of steps you go through in your life to decide to learn to play that.

Step 1: go to the melodica store.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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Rhaeny is a Targ and had pretty healthy looking if mundane kids. Alicent is not a Targ and her kids are wormy, moist lipped mutants but at least they got that silver hair.

Maybe don’t thrown stones about making weird babies, Ali.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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Just caught up. loving great show. Not going over the last 300 messages. gently caress that.

The Gays Got Away! so…is this the start of a fun spin off with two gay knights loving around Essos and poo poo? That sounds fun.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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This was a very good episode and I have no hot takes.

King Goon, I hope in GoT heaven you get to learn about barbershop quartets and local bbq festivals and all the other dumb dad stuff you would have loved.

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Dec 15, 2020
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Ubersandwich posted:

I'm happy Viserys finally got a family gathering where we all sat together and got along for once.

Game of Thrones: Thanksgiving Edition

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Dec 15, 2020
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:

How is Daemon the same age since episode one while his brother looks about 90

Just tell your self he’s some sort of High Elf super soldier and enjoy the show.

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Dec 15, 2020
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Zenithe posted:

As someone who works with frail and elderly folk him walking to the throne was some hardcore anxiety

Compare old Viserys’ final tortured walk to his thrown and young Daemon’s 100 yard murder dash in the stepstones. These are brothers who are different men with different motivations, but they are both capable of heroic feats of endurance when the moment calls. Both incidents end with Daemon offering a crown to his brother that he had earned or could have kept through simple right of force.

Seriously, though, comparing the two scenes is peak English 201 essay question and this episode earned it.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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I just caught up with the last two episodes. I’m 1500 posts behind, so I’m going to assume missed all the good foot jokes.

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Xiahou Dun posted:

Toe-tally.

I honestly wonder if they got a foot model for the close ups.

Also, I kind of like Larys, now. He has obtainable goals.

Marsupial Ape
Dec 15, 2020
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Goddamit. I’m sorry to bring up the feet thing.

So, Larys burned his father and brother alive so that he could position himself to get at them Queen feets? Am I a little too A to B on that interpretation of events?

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A Buttery Pastry posted:

The purpose of a system is what it does. The system Larys has got going on leads to him jerking it to feet, not growing his power.

If only all men knew their hearts so well.

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